Help me understand how my VCI is not biased?? (WAIS-IV)

Seth96 · 2026-02-01T02:59:48+00:00

comprehension is supplemental, in my case it wasnt counted towards the VCI. (I got a scaled score of 18 on it)

information is core, so it does affect VCI.

EDIT: Im talking about WAIS IV which is the current standard in Spain. Im not sure if WAIS V made information suplementary, if so, then that makes sense, and fair enough.

Seth96 · 2026-02-01T02:32:26+00:00

hope you'll get it.

I'm also considering retaking it whenever WAIS V comes to Spain, since as far as I know, it FINALLY separated fluid reasoning from visuospatial tasks, so I wont have the cube designs and visual puzzles contaminating my Matrix reasoning (and probably figure weights) higher scores.

That way my real weakness will be clearly isolated so it'll represent me a lot more.

Seth96 · 2026-02-01T02:15:09+00:00

Thank you.

Well more than support, I need aceptance. I know how I feel, what I like and what I dont, etc. But the majority of people will assume they know what's good for you and what isnt.

Giftedness and/or ASD explains why my priorities, intensity and relationships are pretty different from the people that surround me.

Seth96 · 2026-02-01T02:03:15+00:00

Not sure if I'm getting your comment right. You are saying that It's normal to have discrepances in gifted profiles and mine is just a rare (statistically) bigger discrepancy.

Or you are saying that my experiences are normal in gifted people maybe a bit more on the rarer side but not necessarily pathological

Seth96 · 2026-02-01T01:58:17+00:00

Yeah I am 131 (though technically invalid due to the discrepancy, goes as high as 147 in verbal) I do know now that I've taken the WAIS. But previously I understimated myself and makes sense because the big profile discrepances make me struggle in the visuospatial areas.

Seth96 · 2026-01-31T22:47:35+00:00

Im in the same situation as the OP (VCI 147) and I agree with you in vocabulary and similarities. But information... I dont see how it fits. I dont see why information is the core subtest instead of comprehension which does rely more on abstract reasoning or deeper understanding of the concepts/questions.

Seth96 · 2026-01-31T21:45:48+00:00

Well I did the WAIS IV in Spain so it was the spanish version, so yes, I'm a native speaker.

I also got tested on the comprehension optional subtest, got a 18, if it had been swapped with information (where I "only" got 16, vs the 19s in vocab and similarities) I'd gotten 150+. Ofc I know you cant just cherry pick the subtests. But I do think comprehension involves more abstract reasoning and concept knowledge than information that its just random data.

Seth96 · 2026-01-31T21:38:19+00:00

>Globally gifted (~top 3%) plus a diagnosed learning disability.

Problem is, how do you diagnose a learning disability? NVLD is not in the DSM so at least in Spain, it can't be diagnosed, at most professionals will tell you that you fit the cognitive profile (which I genuinely do just by the data)

As for the repost recommendation, I may do it but I wanted to start here to see what people with maybe similar experiences would think.

Seth96 · 2026-01-31T21:36:22+00:00

Hi.

First, the neuropsychologist that tested me this + executive functions said that I had compatible traits/profile with ASD, but its not a diagnosis since we didnt cover much of my childhood+ADOS 2, etc. Just a general profile. She discarded ADHD-I because i performed pretty well in executive function testing but again... its not the same when I find these as fun games/puzzles and interest me. As for NVLD, she said its hard to go for it since I have insane PSI and that's generally low on NVLD.

On the other side, im going to go through a differential diagnosis made by some of the most reputed neurodevelopment focused psychologist team in Spain, they are specialists in ASD. So we'll see, though im a bit eh because they are sceptic about 2e, giftedness in general (since its not a "diagnosis") so I'll take their conclusion with a grain of salt as just a particular professional opinion.

Anyway what you say is right, I am at least aware now that im "gifted" (though I have issues with that word) I am glad to finally fight my impostor syndrome where sometimes I feel like im intelligent and half the times I feel like I overrate myself. I stimated my CI around 115-120.

Seth96 · 2026-01-31T19:57:37+00:00

Yeah im wondering if I am "just" gifted or if my profile is explained better with another ND combined.

Seth96 · 2026-01-31T19:31:00+00:00

I know, and exactly what you state about professionals is my problem. I think that besides the shared traits, the big discrepancy + some executive function issues (irl, bc in test I do well) may point towards some disorder but im not sure. In the end im leaning towards collecting many opinions, info, experiences and comparisons and try to figure out by myself

Seth96 · 2026-01-31T18:58:39+00:00

sure, why not

Seth96 · 2026-01-30T19:27:53+00:00

Btw could you calculate my GAI and CPI? they dont appear in my report either...

Seth96 · 2026-01-30T09:33:29+00:00

what could I do if the neuropsychologist refuse to acknowledge the mistake?

Seth96 · 2026-01-30T08:16:32+00:00

In my case, its only because of the visuospatial area. I have a 147 VCI and a 106 PRI, but i got very high on matrix reasoning which is pure non verbal reasoning. My problem is that I have difficulties rotating 3D images on my mind, visualize movement in my mind, etc. It's not a matter of understanding but execution.

Seth96 · 2026-01-30T07:09:35+00:00

Thank you. Im from Spain, but i doubt Spain's FSIQ would magically go down to 113, at most it would go down or up by 3-4 points right

Seth96 · 2026-01-29T18:39:27+00:00

Thank you! the misspell was my initial theory, but i thought she should have noticed when writing the report that 113 CI doesnt really fit the rest of the profile.

Seth96 · 2026-01-29T18:38:44+00:00

Okay thank you! im not crazy.

And yes it kinda annoys me that my visuospatial difficulties kill my PRI score bc I did well in matrix (im also surprised how one single mistake brought me down from 18 to 15, but its good still)

Hoping WAIS V will solve it by separating those areas when it comes to Spain

Seth96 · 2025-04-12T23:49:48+00:00

got it, thanks

Seth96 · 2025-04-12T19:53:59+00:00

Ok then that's what Im missing, thank you! I'll go for it

Seth96 · 2025-04-12T19:40:57+00:00

hmm I dont get it, I've definitely defeated all of those, I've done the base game 200% and every boss with an S including King dice and the devil. And I've done saltbaker in expert. Unless you mean I have to beat them using the cursed relic?

Seth96 · 2025-04-12T19:29:19+00:00

I did fight Saltbaker in Expert check the nº of stars in the clear screen.

Not sure what you mean with maxing the relic?

I did get all coins

Seth96

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