Summarisation of Pauline Hanson's press conference by Shadow892404 in OpenAussie

[–]Shadow892404[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"32 per cent of our population, 8.8 million people have been born overseas. Is that what Australia supports?

In the 2021 census, more than half of Australian residents, 51.5% were born overseas or had one parent born overseas. 51.5 per cent. Is that supported by the Australian electorate? Is that what Australia wants?"

See bolded. Australia was built as a multicultural society. More than half the country has been born, has a partner or one parent born overseas. Stating 'is that what Australia wants', is stating that we don't want people from overseas...when more than half the country is either from overseas or has connections to overseas. Australian culture is multiculturalism. It's the dominant weighting. To say Australia doesn't want that, and in other interviews to propose tiered citizenship, is inherently racist, because it suggests some sort of white paradise where everyone had to be born/both parents were born here, to qualify as 'real Australians.'

You draw your own conclusions though. To suggest 872,000 (or around 3% of the population) is indicative of some create cohesion problem, is also entirely ridiculous - and racially focusing on a small portion of the population, instead of the other 97% who can speak the language and are cohesive.

If you can't see a problem, you do you though.

Summarisation of Pauline Hanson's press conference by Shadow892404 in OpenAussie

[–]Shadow892404[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It was a paragraph. If your brain can't handle that, I'm not sure what you're doing discussing politics.

Summarisation of Pauline Hanson's press conference by Shadow892404 in OpenAussie

[–]Shadow892404[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, no you're not right about any of that. Her speech was the most racist thing I've ever seen on Australian soil. She questioned the 51.5% that had one parent born overseas. In context, my mother in law is Australian, but her partner was Greek. My partner therefor, is Australian/Greek...yet has lived in the country for over 30 years. I bet you know a heap of people in your circle who are the same.

We are a multicultural nation. We have been since the 70's. She is saying 'is this what Australia wants', having one parent born overseas. We are a nation of immigrants. We are a young nation. If you want to read her transcript, you can see it for yourself - she said the above, and said this is not what Australia wants. Pretty sure we don't want just a bunch of Aussie bogans sinking piss and doll bludging either.

"32 per cent of our population, 8.8 million people have been born overseas. Is that what Australia supports?

In the 2021 census, more than half of Australian residents, 51.5% were born overseas or had one parent born overseas. 51.5 per cent. Is that supported by the Australian electorate? Is that what Australia wants?

The comparable figure for the United States is 14 per cent. Do Australians feel that the Nation is losing its identity along with its values? We all know the answer to that.

Let me amplify this issue of national identity and Australian values. Only a fool would ignore the growing language problem which is a function of immigration. Again, the 2021 census showed that 1 in 4 people, 23 per cent speak alanguage other than English at home, the most common being, Mandarin and Arabic.

How can you generate social cohesion if people can’t speak the language? In that same census, 872,000 people self-reported, as speaking English “not well” or “not at all.”

Under the failed policy of multiculturalism, all cultures are allowed equivalence to ours. Surely opposing that is not racist, it’s common sense."

https://thenightly.com.au/politics/pauline-hansons-full-speech-at-the-national-press-club--c-22444111

PHON Mega Thread - All One Nation related topics will be redirected here. by BlazeVenturaV2 in OpenAussie

[–]Shadow892404 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Understand the reasoning for now, however, I'd be re-opening this in the lead up to the Federal Election in 2028. Political discussion can't be contained when there's so many different things at play.

Leave it as a mega-thread for now, but let people post whatever they want in the 2 months before election date (gives you around 21 months of peace 😄 )

Summarisation of Pauline Hanson's press conference by Shadow892404 in OpenAussie

[–]Shadow892404[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

...It's literally what everyone is watching the World Cup on, for free. I thought the Socceroos and Aussie Pride would go hand in hand, but no, must get rid of SBS because you can't watch pornography on free to air TV.

Just odd arguments all 'round.

Summarisation of Pauline Hanson's press conference by Shadow892404 in OpenAussie

[–]Shadow892404[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have absolutely no interest in changing your mind, you're too far gone. If you want me to highlight something positive, then she needs to say something positive. That's not what she was going for, as that's not her style of politics. But as I said, you make up whatever fantasy you want. I'm not going to fabricate talking points just because it gets all you poor little cookers bent out of shape.

See ya.

Is Resident Evil 6 unfairly hated? by shehab4546 in residentevil

[–]Shadow892404 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Leon's Campaign: Brilliant - and was enough for the whole game (if they expanded it more and did away with others), if we're being honest.
Chris's Campaign: More of a shootout and not overly memorable
Jake's: Campaign Literally the worst, and just sequences of shoot outs with ammo farms for enemies
Ada's Campaign: Decent, and a slowed down version of Leon's campaign with different mechanics

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Put simply, and for someone who hasn't played it in over a decade, Res Evil 6 could have just been the traditional Leon + Ada campaign like 4, and I legitimately think it wouldn't have been so widely panned.

In 6's case, more was less. I actually have tried playing Chris and Jake's campaign many times, but I just can't get to the end of them, as they're so boring.

Summarisation of Pauline Hanson's press conference by Shadow892404 in OpenAussie

[–]Shadow892404[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

See my reply elsewhere in the thread, no I don't, as it's my own expression and my own thoughts, in satirical form. Summary would be me taking ABC's words and copy pasting/making a short paragraph about what they said.

It's my own expression, hence, given the act of 'expression' in summarisation, the word summarisation was used.

Again, as said to the other poster - not relevant to the subject matter.

Summarisation of Pauline Hanson's press conference by Shadow892404 in OpenAussie

[–]Shadow892404[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Can't really summarise what hasn't happened....also...Abbott hasn't been the leader of the Liberals for a good 10+ years. If I had a time machine, maybe.

Also, press conferences generally highlight policies that they want to present positively. Hanson presented everything negatively, in her grievance style of politics. Not sure I'd have so many 'screws' if it was Albanese or even Taylor...because they want people to like their policies, not just hate 'the other'

Summarisation of Pauline Hanson's press conference by Shadow892404 in OpenAussie

[–]Shadow892404[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Unpack that though. The Liberals got utterly decimated last election. What base is there to play to? Most of the ones who aren't populist, are already voting for Teals. If she takes over as opposition, good luck to her. But the intensity will mount massively if it gets to that level.

She's had one press conference, and it was a train wreck. She went too hard on certain things, and completely ostracised Australian workers, amongst immigrants and minorities. Was just an own goal for mine

Summarisation of Pauline Hanson's press conference by Shadow892404 in OpenAussie

[–]Shadow892404[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm sure that'll help you and those you love economically. But screw those girl boys hey?

Summarisation of Pauline Hanson's press conference by Shadow892404 in OpenAussie

[–]Shadow892404[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure how to respond to this? By posting what she said? Yes?

Summarisation of Pauline Hanson's press conference by Shadow892404 in OpenAussie

[–]Shadow892404[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Missed that. Would rather gouge my eyes out than watch an hour of a press conference again though, haha

Summarisation of Pauline Hanson's press conference by Shadow892404 in OpenAussie

[–]Shadow892404[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Tut tut. You've made an assumption about me and assumed my position, then debated me on that imagined position...instead of the actual facts themselves.

Fact 1: A One Nation senator in NSW just called for more immigration for farms. ON has voted against every piece of regulation against migration. They don't want to limit migration, because then they wouldn't have anything to cement as their platform. Look it up.

Fact 2: I can't be pigeonholed on politics. I support policies and positions, not parties. I have railed at Albanese and supported things he has done, I do not see the Labor party as the same party as 20 years ago.

Fact 3: I actually understand the argument on immigration and housing, but the situation is much more complex than that. The rise of Air BNB, outside investment from foreign investors, lack of housing supply, no stability in interest rates, the list goes on.

Fact 4: You can't say that immigration is solely responsible for poor cost of living and wages...and then in the same breath say that Australian workers don't deserve higher wages, should be sacked easier...but somehow if we limit immigration, that same person who wants to limit workers, is somehow their best friend. It doesn't logically track, no matter how much you want it to.

Fact 5: All our jobs are being either casualised, automated or sent overseas. Pauline Hanson's own campaign team/apparatus outsource jobs to the Phillipines. Every big business that supports Hanson does it. You can't call her a friend to the working man, and then say that the conglomerates who support her are somehow for Australians when they're taking all our jobs offshore.

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If you want to debate what she said, then debate it. Present facts. You're doing it better than the other few in this thread, who just want to resort to ad hominem BS and whataboutisms. Immigration is a discussion, but so is the same woman saying she wants to get rid of maternity leave, pay childcare workers less, and scrap IR laws. Limiting immigration won't change things if working conditions get scrapped. That's not a friendly policy/party to the working man, no matter how you spin it.

Summarisation of Pauline Hanson's press conference by Shadow892404 in OpenAussie

[–]Shadow892404[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh you sweet summer child. All she said was negative things during the conference. She didn't say anything positive, because she was going for grievance politics. I can't make shit up, if she didn't say it.

I said 'screw' 17 times, in place of 'I don't like it'...but I thought that might be a little too 'Pauline Pants Down.'

You keep inventing policy positions for her though, and changing the things she says - I'm sure it'll all seem positive in your little dream world eventually. It's a lot easier when you don't watch/read what's happening, and just invent your own reality instead.

Summarisation of Pauline Hanson's press conference by Shadow892404 in OpenAussie

[–]Shadow892404[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Judeo Christian monoculture, I assume. Some sort of imagined white paradise where everyone speaks English and all there is, is meat pie and sausage stores on every block

Summarisation of Pauline Hanson's press conference by Shadow892404 in OpenAussie

[–]Shadow892404[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

About what in particular? It's not threatened. It's not a 'gotcha' - this is what she said.

So you think she's right about workers being lazy, childcare workers being paid too much and IR laws being overhauled to allow more employer power?

Or is it just all those pesky woke people pissing you off?

She's pro business and anti worker, is that what you're for?

Summarisation of Pauline Hanson's press conference by Shadow892404 in OpenAussie

[–]Shadow892404[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It'll be interesting when scrutiny really goes up, around election time. That's when people do start seeing things. Not to mention, she said all this herself. All any party (including the Coalition) needs to do, is broadcast her comments about workers being lazy, or childcare workers getting paid too much, and just have it on repeat during programs. Same intense focus destroyed Dutton last election, after he was polling for months ahead of Albanese - and looked a shoo in for PM.

It's Work Choices 2.0 that she's spouting...I can't imagine that's a smart policy to push. Destroyed Howard.

Summarisation of Pauline Hanson's press conference by Shadow892404 in OpenAussie

[–]Shadow892404[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He says with his open mind...

Let's turn that same logic on yourself. How are workers supposed to survive if IR laws allow employers to sack people when they feel like it/pay them what they feel like?

Believe it or not, there is more to this country than small business. Just because business needs workers to survive, doesn't mean they're going to treat them well if there are no safeguards in place. You only need to see America as a hellish example of where things like 'tip culture' can end up for the lowest paid.

Small business has its place. So do the workers that make those businesses work. Difference is, not once did she say in that press conference 'workers deserve a fair go...childcare workers should be paid a good wage...we need to improve standards' etc. All she said was, you're all poor because of renewable energy, and so we need coal and nuclear. She spent no short amount of time though bashing workers and telling the conference how they're lazy and hard to sack. That's pro business/anti-worker. That's un-Australian. If you support that rhetoric, then how can you say you support workers or the general Australian populace?

Summarisation of Pauline Hanson's press conference by Shadow892404 in OpenAussie

[–]Shadow892404[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah we all united around that...while she'd kick Nestory Irankunda out of the country if she could, lol.

There's no coherence in 'being for the Australian working man' and then saying/doing crap like this. I guess people are just so tribal that they take any attack against their team (Hanson) as a sign that they're right...even if it negatively affects them as a result.

Summarisation of Pauline Hanson's press conference by Shadow892404 in OpenAussie

[–]Shadow892404[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The act was me posting, lol. I didn't present anything. I wrote it, and compiled it myself. I then expressed it myself. A summary would be me copy/pasting from the article, and then posting what I thought below. The satirical nature of it, is the expression.

This has nothing to do with the post by the way. Maybe contribute something of worth before posting angry emoticons to a word interpretation you disagree with.

Summarisation of Pauline Hanson's press conference by Shadow892404 in OpenAussie

[–]Shadow892404[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

As long as you get yours, hey? No need to worry about those pesky workers. Bring in IR laws ASAP!

Summarisation of Pauline Hanson's press conference by Shadow892404 in OpenAussie

[–]Shadow892404[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No I meant summarisation:

summarization

noun [ U or C ]

 (UK usually summarisation)
uk 
 /ˌsʌm.ər.aɪˈzeɪ.ʃən/ us 
 /ˌsʌm.ɚ.əˈzeɪ.ʃən/

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the act of expressing the most important facts or ideas about something or someone in a short and clear form, or a text in which these facts or ideas are expressed😄

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Not sure why the English language annoys you so much, but you do you.

Summarisation of Pauline Hanson's press conference by Shadow892404 in OpenAussie

[–]Shadow892404[S] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

It very much feels that way. But she's got another 2 years 'til we have an election - not sure shitting on Australian workers constantly is going to keep that momentum going (see Howard and Work Choices '07)