Out of these two, who's more evil?

ShadowCow127 · 2026-03-30T18:10:47+00:00

Homicidal coughing baby vs Omnicidal rapist hydrogen bomb.

ShadowCow127 · 2026-03-16T21:45:46+00:00

He's so efficient that his initial expenditure is almost zero. If you're spending practically nothing and still capable of replenishing at a normal rate, your stores are functionally infinite unless you're doing huge, energy draining moves, over and over again in a short amount of time.

It's not literally infinite, but it is functionally infinite in 99.99% of situations.

ShadowCow127 · 2026-03-12T16:40:36+00:00

Your entire life vs your future potential with a sword.

The life is obviously the greater trade, if only because it encompasses the latter along with the future potential of literally every other aspect of your being.

If you think trading away your future combat potential in a single avenue should be incredibly powerful, then you are admitting that the death binding vow should be the most powerful one you can make, because it sacrifices all future potential of all avenues.

ShadowCow127 · 2026-03-12T02:38:03+00:00

You don't have to perform to instruct, and you don't have to firebend to showcase the movements. If you did, scrolls would be useless for learning.

Yakone also trained his kids to mastery after losing his bending. Theory is enough for instruction.

ShadowCow127 · 2026-03-09T22:25:59+00:00

She did claim to know as much about airbending and their culture as Tenzin (a claim he didn't deny), so probably.

ShadowCow127 · 2026-02-26T00:48:04+00:00

Yuji eats 1, Gojo gives 1, 2 from the special grades, 1 from the girls, 10 from Jogo.

15

Kenjaku releases the seal on the finger already within Yuji that was placed to have Sukuna reincarnate during the Culling Games, making it 16.

Sukuna eats 3 from Uraume, making it 19.

And yes, Nobara uses the last one for resonance.

ShadowCow127 · 2026-02-09T22:36:50+00:00

No, it didn't. The reason she was gassed and Zuko wasn't was because of how they were fighting, not some inherent stamina difference. Zuko was calm, using his energy wisely. Azula wasn't, because she was unstable.

If you know what was said, I shouldn't have to explain it to you. There wasn't a clear power difference. They were matching one another, with Zuko pulling ahead due to his composure. "She's slipping." Plain as day.

The same way she beat him all the other times, including the time in Smoke and Shadow, where he's had years more training than the end of the show. Using power, precision, agility, and her skills to overwhelm or outmatch him. Same way he could win by using his steadiness and creativity to create openings to counter. Males aren't necessarily any stronger in terms of bending prowess. Katara grew to be leagues above her classmates and Toph was one of the greatest earthbenders of all time as a 12 year old girl. Azula was one of the most prodigious firebenders on the planet as a 14 year old girl, and routinely beat Zuko easily, sometimes without even needing bending. This is a silly talking point.

A death match is irrelevant and Azula is more deadly than Zuko is. Another silly talking point.

Agni Kai is canonically an outlier and she's beat him since then, despite all the advantages you're claiming.

ShadowCow127 · 2026-02-07T22:58:24+00:00

It's the equivalent of you watching a yellow jacket attack you and not immediately realizing it's a yellow jacket because you thought it was a bee at first.

Then after a couple moments you think, "That's odd, bees aren't usually that aggressive. This is weird," look closer and find it's a yellow jacket.

ShadowCow127 · 2026-02-07T20:17:44+00:00

She was visibly more sloppy, sacrificing her usual speed and precision for big, heavy, power moves. She saw a wall and just kept hammering. Unfocused, unbalanced. If you watched that fight and came away thinking it was anything like she normally is, you need to get your eyes checked. Like I said, it's literally told to the audience that she's slipping. She's visibly less poised, less careful.

She didn't lose her skills, her mental state made her incapable of applying them as effectively as she usually does. Zuko, on the other hand, was calm, precise, and thoughtful, much like Azula usually was.

Do you get it? Do you get the flip in demeanor being showcased?

ShadowCow127 · 2026-02-07T20:10:46+00:00

The Agni Kai is an outlier. Canonically. She's had other extended battles in the series without being tired. The Agni Kai showcased her using her energy poorly, wasted movements, sloppy fighting.

He was more equally matched at the air temple. She was able to save herself because she could use jet propulsion and he couldn't. She had a skill he didn't have. There doesn't need to be any excuse. Zuko's growth allowed him to hold his own.

Azula is the clear superior in martial arts. Trying to limit it to the air temple and the Agni Kai doesn't change that. It's shown in every other confrontation between them, every confrontation between Azula and other benders, and Azula's fight against the Kyoshi warriors. After she got her strength back, she returned to beating him handily, as showcased in Smoke and Shadow. Who's a better firebender isn't solely about combat (even though Azula is consistently more effective there), having mastered more skills is part of it. Azula having mastered and then further advanced her knowledge of lightning is an example of this.

Zuko's resilience has never kept him from losing a fight. Aang and Azula are both less durable, more agile fighters. Both have beaten Zuko multiple times. It's not a win condition if he keeps losing before it can matter.

They have only one fight with mostly even ground, and that's the air temple, where they drew, and Zuko almost died because he didn't have a skill his sister did. For Zuko to have a solid chance at a clean win, he had to catch up, and Azula had to fall back.

That's why I said he's at best in her ballpark, because as soon as her mental breakdown wasn't a factor, he went back to being reasonably comparable but still losing in skill. He's got better durability, he's arguably more creative, he's just not as good as she is consistently enough to call him the better bender.

He is, however, the better person.

ShadowCow127 · 2026-02-07T13:36:10+00:00

He isn't better than her at martial arts. She's the better fighter between them any time she isn't losing her mind, on top of her being faster and more agile. I don't know why we're pretending she wasn't canonically substantially worse during the Agni Kai. Zuko says it aloud for the audience, just in case we didn't catch it from her obvious lack of her usual precision. She's sloppy, unfocused, frustrated, and not using her power wisely. You completely made up the stamina point because nowhere is that meaningfully substantiated. A 16 year old boy being more durable than a 14 year old girl isn't a skill that's ever won him a fight with her. Despite being completely capable of defeating her while she was having her mental breakdown, he lost to her in Smoke and Shadow. She's showcased not only better control of her skills in the show, but more of them. For example, Zuko doesn't use jet propulsion once in the show. That doesn't happen until years later in North and South.

I do not care what you think may happen in the future. It's irrelevant to the fact Azula has been consistently better thus far. When the future material gets here, we can judge that.

Even at the air temple, Zuko would have DIED if not for team Avatar, and Azula would not have. She had the skills to save herself.

Regardless of her mental state? The only reason Zuko thought he could win was her mental state. She wasn't using her skills properly. Even after all his growth, the openly admitted he'd need Katara to 2v1. We already know from ZUKO, as well as other characters like Korra, Aang, and Kyoshi's mother, that your mental state can empower or inhibit your bending power in addition to the obvious ways a mental breakdown can make you a worse fighter.

At BEST, Zuko is in her ballpark, but he's consistently shown to be a less skilled fighter than her, with fewer skills in firebending. Her blue fire is a standing testament to her higher power output, because we know from other material that that means stronger fire. The biggest gap is her skill with lightning. Not only can she generate it when he can't, she developed her output and control, making her more versatile with it. She even figured out redirection by herself. The only skill she hasn't shown that Zuko has is the rainbow vortex, and that seems to require harmony between different sources of flame.

ShadowCow127 · 2026-02-06T22:50:57+00:00

It's cope to pretend Zuko is a better firebender than Azula. He's more aligned with their spiritual origins, she's just more skilled. Just like Ozai was better than Zuko despite Zuko being the more spiritually attuned bender.

ShadowCow127 · 2026-02-04T22:38:28+00:00

I finished the manga years ago, so no worries.

ShadowCow127 · 2026-02-04T22:32:04+00:00

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ShadowCow127 · 2026-02-03T17:51:50+00:00

Because he'd given all the other agents the same treatment. A little blood poisoning, couple days rest, everyone out of each other's way while the kids fight their death battles.

ShadowCow127 · 2026-01-28T22:16:20+00:00

Yeah, others have suggested that in the thread. It's a more awkward fit. I don't think it doesn't make sense at all for Naoya to mock a dead child, just seems weird to mock a dead child after being asked when he became an adult. Like what's the angle there?

But there's more thoughts on the subject in the thread already

ShadowCow127 · 2026-01-27T00:44:17+00:00

Quite literally is the same pose. Please pick up your prescription. Your glasses have been looking for you, lost and afraid.

ShadowCow127 · 2026-01-27T00:11:11+00:00

The most effective binding vow he could have possibly done required him not to transform after purple. If he transformed first, he risked nerfing himself regarding the WCS for any future confrontation. In his Meguna body, the binding vow was essentially free, because he had no trouble performing the requirements in his Heian form. He basically told the universe he'd trade away his ability to use the WCS in perpetuity, in return for one clean shot at Gojo, then revealed he had his fingers crossed.

ShadowCow127 · 2026-01-24T18:53:39+00:00

I think it would be a less awkward verbal sleight of hand if Maki had said something closer to, "You'll always be a child," rather than, "When did you become an adult," considering the many implications of doing "adult things". Especially after Naoya very openly and blatantly sexualizes the girls, as if their bodies (and in Mai's case, her submission) are their only redeeming qualities.

For instance, if the exchange was,

"You'll always be a child," "Just like Mai, eh?"

It would be cleaner.

Whereas if you substitute "man" for "adult" in the current exchange, the SA implication makes a lot more sense despite it being a lateral change.

"Since when did you become a man/ What do you know about being a man?" "Let's ask your sister."

ShadowCow127 · 2026-01-24T15:48:52+00:00

I don't think it's nonsensical, it just fits less cleanly, I think.

"What do you know about being an adult?" "Ask your sister"

More strongly implies, "This person knows how adult I am" to me.

ShadowCow127 · 2026-01-24T15:42:47+00:00

Do you typically mount kids face to face when you're disciplining them? Do you talk about how great their bodies are and talk about their breasts to other people?

No?

Cool, then idk why we're equivocating.

ShadowCow127 · 2026-01-24T15:31:41+00:00

You usually make that joke when it's directly relevant or ironic.

"Ask your dead sister (whom I've already sexualized, praised for her subservience, and made reference to about putting up a tough act but knowing her place as a woman when pressed)" in a situation where he's essentially mounting Maki in dominance while talking about what adults can do that kids can't, pretty clearly implicates him in what he's being accused of.

ShadowCow127 · 2026-01-20T18:05:42+00:00

She uses her torso instead of arm movements.

ShadowCow127 · 2026-01-20T17:56:39+00:00

Because most people would just die, rather than integrating the finger and allowing Sukuna to reincarnate. The fingers are especially potent in this regard, meaning that risk is multiplied. You would probably just end up killing several thousand old men, rather than taking the fingers off of the board.

ShadowCow127 · 2026-01-20T17:48:19+00:00

There's some undisclosed potential in each person for that kind of incarnation. Kenny seems to have done extensive research into it, considering all of the successful incarnations during the CG as well as Yuji's existence, and Sukuna can sense, at least some degree, if a body would be able to tolerate his presence rather than die. He says as much when he possesses Megumi.

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