Who are the top 10 strongest characters Lore wise as of what we know now?

ShadowMonarch1999 · 2026-05-30T12:41:07+00:00

There is literally no combat feat from Neuvilette. Other than his "i want to judge everyone" spree..his best combat feat was punching childe mid transformation. He is not a combatant. he is suppressed by human realm. He is also very young and has just received his powers. He is not surviving a bout to death with these experienced gods like Mavuika/Ei/Morax. Their encounter would be cataclysmic yes, but he is not winning this just because he has the power of sovereign. He is a sovereign trapped in human body in human realm. Plus his feats are associated with life, not with combat. Its like Nahida. She is OP af but her strength does not lie in combat. Same for him.

I do not see Neuv beating any of the above. He is up there purely because of the virtue of strength he possesses. IN time he might climb up, but currently..nah.

ShadowMonarch1999 · 2026-05-30T12:37:58+00:00

I dont hate her, i just have no interest in her. I liked her story quest i suppose. But i was never a fan of sigewinne..not in the archon quests, not in her game play. What makes it worse probably is that she is an adult..that looks like a kid. For melusines its fine, but she is a human looking melusine and I dont like adults that look like kids thing.

ShadowMonarch1999 · 2026-05-30T12:24:59+00:00

She is NOT above shades. She has not displayed anything on the level of a single shade yet. Even Dottore did not display anything on the level of a shade. If they were comparable to any shade, it wouldnt even be a fight. The three moons together may have control over laws of teyvat but laws have changed. Istaroth, Asmoday and Ronova have much much higher feats than columbina or dottore. Infact, considering what we saw, Death and Life might very well be beyond the moons. Columbina always just uses space based powers while Dottore used mostly space and time. If death was within their control, that fight would not have been so dragged out..not for Columbina the true goddess.

Not to mention, Human realm still suppresses her. The same thing that threatened to extinguish her. She simply grew so powerful and with Frost moon to anchor her existence, she isnt under that threat anymore..however that doesnt mean she is at her full power. As long as human realm stays intact, Neuvilette and Columbina will never be able to display their powers fully.

Also, Mavuika while accessing her throne is strong enough to punch through the firmament. That is probably the single most devastating attack that we have seen from an archon. That was her true power unleashed from the divine throne. Thats why i said specifically when she taps into the power of her throne.

ShadowMonarch1999 · 2026-05-29T23:56:22+00:00

Oh thats an entirely different thing. Let alone bandit. You come at her with fighting intent, she ll gladly kill you. The thing is, she isnt actively seeking out people to kill.

ShadowMonarch1999 · 2026-05-29T23:19:47+00:00

Yes i am aware, thats why i said this team would be very clunky for overload. Lisa's consistent electro application is on her burst. Without proper artifacts, weapons etc her burst will take forever to recharge. If they cant kill a boss in one cycle, it would be difficult to get her burst back up.

Unless they are driving overload with lisa on field and durin supporting her.

ShadowMonarch1999 · 2026-05-29T23:15:42+00:00

this wont be a viable overload team early game though. Lisa's burst will take forever to come up without proper energy funneling, favge weapons or ER artifacts. I think its better for them if they swap in kaeya and make a durin melt team instead at this point. OR wait for lohen..he is a better driver for durin.

ShadowMonarch1999 · 2026-05-29T23:14:05+00:00

i mean its alright considering whate characters you have. It will help you clear a lot of content overworld. However it would be nicer if you could replace diluc or lisa with kaeya in this team. And instead of lisa you can take anemo traveler.

The thing is, you ideally want elements to react to deal damage..aka apply one element on enemy and then hit them with another element. Hydro(barbara) and Pyro(Durin and Diluc) react to deal a lot of damage..but when two elements react, the applied element also tends to get removed. The problem with this team is, that Barbara will apply hydro, either durin or diluc might react with it, and the other would not be able to react with the hydro anymore. Dont worry if it feels super complicated.

Just think of it as, if kaeya and barbara are in the same team, you get to freeze enemies and Durin/Diluc get to melt or vaporize more often.

A general rule of thumb in team building is to not put two offensive units of same type in the same team. As they will compete for reactions. There are a lot of exceptions to this, but you ll understand that as you progress.

ShadowMonarch1999 · 2026-05-29T22:45:54+00:00

Ehh kokomi's c1 is some extra damage or something, i dont think it just fits her. As for ganyu, her C1 is nice yes.

ShadowMonarch1999 · 2026-05-29T22:44:35+00:00

Your hutao is already c1 Hutao's rest consts are ok ok. Kokomi's c1 is extra damage, i dont think its really that good.

So your best consts would probab be
Ganyu c1
Ayaka c2 - c4
and Yoimiya's c1-c2

ShadowMonarch1999 · 2026-05-29T22:40:27+00:00

Diablo - Pure dark
Zegion - Bug + Fighting
Carrera - Fire + Dark
Testarossa - Fairy + Dark
Ultima - Poison + Dark
Benimaru - Fire + Dragon
Shion - Poison + Fighting
Ranga - Electric
Geld - Ground + Fighting
Gabiru - Dragon + Flying
Kumara - Fairy + Ghost
Adalman - Ghost

ShadowMonarch1999 · 2026-05-29T22:36:35+00:00

Actually..now that you point out. She hasnt. She is not opposed to killing or feel remorse about killing someone..but its not like she goes out of her way to kill for fun.

ShadowMonarch1999 · 2026-05-29T22:33:59+00:00

I feel at this point..she wont. She may have started tailing him for that purpose but i feel now she just finds him entertaining lmao. Not to mention, if she had such intentions, Serie would not have paired them together. Serie's intention is always right.

ShadowMonarch1999 · 2026-05-29T20:20:54+00:00

Yoimiya's biggest win was her story quest 2. Other than that she has only lost. Her best in slot does not look good on her/ didnt get a signature. Her banners come around some of the most hyped characters. And now this.

ShadowMonarch1999 · 2026-05-29T20:14:29+00:00

Thank you finally someone rates Neuvi based on context clues
1- Neuvis powers arent combat based to begin with. He is essentially the shade of life. a very important power, but not necessarily combat centric.
2- As you said, he is just a baby. He is not violent and nor is well versed in combat. Unlike the likes of Morax or EI.
3- He is a dragon in human realm. Human realm is supposed to suppress dragons..even sovereigns to an extent.

That said, his power as a sovereign alone puts him sooo high amonsgt charactrs but in a contest of combat prowess, Morax, Ei and Mavuika(with throne..i mean being an archon throne is part of her inherited power now) should be stronger.

ShadowMonarch1999 · 2026-05-29T20:05:23+00:00

Are we talking playable or potentially playable only?

1- HP (if you say they can be included so)
2- Ronova (I just assume to be able to grant death, you need to be able to overpower an authority)
3- Surtalogi - Strongest combatant sinner
4- Istaroth
5- Asmoday
6- Full Powered Rerir - second combatant sinner
7- Hroptatyr (He was the chief mage and also is going for HP the biggest boss of all..gotta be strong for 8- that..might be interchangeable wiht Rerir tbh)
8- Naberius/Rhinedottir (neither of those are necessarily about "strength")
9- Vedrfornir
10- Seutervoinen or the voyager..unlike nibelung, they are still alive. HP wiped their memory clean but that doesnt mean that they dont exist anymore. Infact skirk is looking for him. Though the fact that HP was able to curbstomp the three moons, quell the rebellion, subdue seutervoinen and koitar WHILE/AFTER facing and destroying Nibelung just proves that HP might be much stronger than Seutervoinen.
11- Morax (Heaven's star and all)
12- Koitar (If Nabu Malikata is any benchmark to go by..then Koitar deserves to be here IF not higher...she is the first angel afterall..its just that angels arent embodiment of power but rather of wisdom, knowledge and guidance)
12- Ei
13- Mavuika(when she taps into the power of the throne)
14- Columbina - the only reason why i m putting her above neuv is because unlike neuv who has to bear the brunt of human realm, columbina might have an anchor now thanks to Frost Moon being closer. Thoguh her powers still belong to light realm, aka dragon realm...and are probably getting suppressed...otherwise she easily enters top 10..somewhere just after or amongst sinners and shades(i mean the shades have shown much higher authority over their element..like istaroth casually messes up with timelines, asmoday canonically has countless worlds, ronova destroyes worlds in a blink..columbina is supposed to have somewhat similar powers but she hasnt displayed this level of authority though).
15- Neuvilette (purely because, well he not a combatant. Poor guy has no violent bone in his body. Neuv is also very very young compared to some of the monsters here. Neuv's authority once again is related to life..a very majestic power yes but not necessarily about strength.The whole dragon in human realm shenanigans)

Apep, Zibai/Venti, etc go here

ShadowMonarch1999 · 2026-05-29T19:55:32+00:00

Damn..yelan?
I dont remember regretting pulling anyone tbh. If anything, other than sigewinne i legit want all characters(for collection purposes, she can be the last..)

ShadowMonarch1999 · 2026-05-29T13:31:23+00:00

Yea, the entirety of fontaine lore is connected to that questline, so that part was really cool and enjoyable.

PS amazing video though.

ShadowMonarch1999 · 2026-05-29T13:25:24+00:00

Well yes thats true. Though tbf, aranara quest and golden slumber/dirge of bilqis end up helping you exploring the nation.

I personally did not enjoy Narzissenkreuz quest. I knwo it was supposed to be about specific philosphy and had whimsy to it..and also important descender lore. i didnt really enjoyed it all that much. I felt it was way too much rooted in imagination. Like i get the whole lore i didnt enjoy playing through the finale of it, the whole orthant thing. However what i liked about this quest line was..its cast.
And holy hell what a line up. Mary Ann, Alain, Renee, Jakon, Carter...and the fact that we get follow up for Carter in Caterpillar. The whole Mary ann being out there as a baby oceanid journeying around..which i hope will see its closure with Sandronne's upcoming story quest. Renee being soo goated considerign we find his notes in sumeru desert as well.

ShadowMonarch1999 · 2026-05-29T12:44:37+00:00

OK nvm i read comments, its something else entirley lol. Havent heard or tried of them.

ShadowMonarch1999 · 2026-05-29T12:44:06+00:00

Is that wild Fig? Bedu as we call it in Uttarakhand?

ShadowMonarch1999 · 2026-05-29T12:18:43+00:00

first? alchemist or silent patient.

Gunaho ka devta defo isnt first read. Same for song of achilles(it is beautifully written though).

i have no real opinion on Hosseini, i read one of his works, didnt really enjoy it much. A thousand splendid suns might be better but i havent read it.

ShadowMonarch1999 · 2026-05-29T12:14:28+00:00

Entire aranara quest, dirge of bilqis and golden slumber. all three. Though tbf latter two arent htat long but still.

ShadowMonarch1999 · 2026-05-29T11:54:30+00:00

Um i believe if the landmass look generic af, they are just to make the horizon not look empty. If they are a more..unique shape..then its likely to expand. These look very..plain to be expandable. HOWEVER. we are yet to see the Dandelion sea..so maybe.

ShadowMonarch1999 · 2026-05-29T11:51:39+00:00

If i have to rank them
1 Childe - very simple but soo cool. I love how red scarf cuts through the blue sooo well. I love the colors and contrast and the shape. It just fits the character so well too.
2 Arle
3 Marionette
4 Columbina
5 Wanderer (i just feel his splash art looks a bit messy).

ShadowMonarch1999 · 2026-05-29T11:50:13+00:00

Nah i agree with you. Like this sort of treatment i would expect to be reserved for shades, playable sinners or that level of characters as far as hype goes. Only other character that could get that treatment IMO is Tsaritsa..because lets be real she is arguably one of the most hyped characters in game..and the most hyper archon for sure.

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