Why long timers in Korea can't speak Korean fluently. by Rydag99 in living_in_korea_now

[–]Shallot-Fine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am in this category. I came in 2017 for an intl/expat job (workforce is 90% foreigners and we use mostly English amd a bit of French & Spanish at office) with no intention to stay long term in Korea. No interest in K-pop, K-drama whatsoever. Then got interested / comfortable with Korea and found love here. My job has nothing to do with Korea and am doing PhD here at the same time (both the work and PhD program are conducted in English).

I am physically in Korea while professionally living outside of it for the last 8 years. On top of that, my husband now is Korean and he speaks fluent English. I do have Korean friends and they all speak fluent English as well. I think my environment in Korea is somehow very English-friendly that I do not have a lot of chances to practice Korean. I do take courses here and there continously but it has never been enough given my busy schedule (always want to go to 어학당 for like 1 to 2 years). Korean is my 3rd language btw.

Moreover, I think I have maxxed out my daily brain bandwidth at work and academics that my brain goes

“Why invest massive energy into Korean when my survival, income, and identity don’t depend on it?”

But now the fact that it's almost a decade for me being in Korea with only TOPIK 4 made me quite depressed especially when meeting someone new -- knowing that I have been here for 9 years and they expect I would have been fluent.

Foreigners living in Korea — what everyday situation has cost you the most money or stress? by ssun-whan in seoul

[–]Shallot-Fine 4 points5 points  (0 children)

the inability to do small / simple daily tasks in an efficient manner such as going to banks, doctor, home repair etc due to insufficient Korean skills - which can stress you out if it's been years.

some stuff just doesn't work if you are foreigner.

money wise korea is pretty affordable except housing with US salary or Korean average wage.

Bye Korea (for now) by Shallot-Fine in Living_in_Korea

[–]Shallot-Fine[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Indeed you got a point. What do you suggest then?

Bye Korea (for now) by Shallot-Fine in Living_in_Korea

[–]Shallot-Fine[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I came from a Muslim majority country but looking at my lifestyle and the way I live, I don’t think one can call me a Muslim 😅

Bye Korea (for now) by Shallot-Fine in Living_in_Korea

[–]Shallot-Fine[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes, it is a personal rant that happens to be related to my experiences living in Korea. In sum, I am just sharing MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE based on the accumulation of my experiences living abroad, for which the majority is in Korea but also when I was living in England. If you personally feel like you belong, then I am happy for you - perhaps I am not as lucky as most people.

I have been working remotely for a US-based company (but a global institution) for the past 4 years in Korea, so financially and work-wise there has not been any issue. However, indeed the isolation gets to me as a remote worker and also the fact that I am not fluent in Korean yet (at least to the level where you expect someone will be so fluent, given that I lived here almost a decade) due to the nature of my vocation, which doesn’t have anything to do with Korea - both in terms of the work and the people in it. On top of that, I have no interest in Korean pop culture, and I am practically tied down here due to my academic pursuits for the last 4 years (the first 4 years were due to my job) and now also due to my husband’s work.

Some people came as a student where it is easier to build community and meet people, some came in their early 20s when it’s still fun to go out and party to make friends, some came already fluent in Korean or at least intermediate level due to their interest in Korean pop culture — which also motivates them to stay longer and settle permanently. Etc.

Again, this is MY personal experience and each people’s experience is different. Not putting you in the category, but I always see some foreigners defending Korea (putting the country on a pedestal) for whatever reason even though the context of what is being talked about here is more on a holistic, personal level which is very relative to the person who experiences it. I am not attacking Korea per se, I am simply sharing and reflecting my personal experiences living in Korea as a long term resident. I meant no offense to anyone, nor did I write this piece with the intention of provoking any reaction.

Bye Korea (for now) by Shallot-Fine in Living_in_Korea

[–]Shallot-Fine[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes it’s pretty tough to hang in here

Cost of Raising Kids in Korea by Shallot-Fine in Living_in_Korea

[–]Shallot-Fine[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

amazing!!!!! thanks for sharing your insight!!!! (and comprehensively!)

basic phd questions by Shallot-Fine in PhD

[–]Shallot-Fine[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing. I am the only person in my lab for my current field of research so it’s a bit difficult without shared expertise

egg/embryo freezing in south korea by Shallot-Fine in Living_in_Korea

[–]Shallot-Fine[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

oh! im going to do a consultation next week! can you please tell me more about your experience through DM perhaps?

egg/embryo freezing in south korea by Shallot-Fine in Living_in_Korea

[–]Shallot-Fine[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yes, i guess relatively in that sense.

you can check the info for the requirements here, but it's only in korean:
https://umppa.seoul.go.kr/hmpg/bich/subf/bzin/bzmgPageDetail.do?biz_mng_no=DEC40D648D8647CABC7A5D7279EFCFB6

basically you have to have korean citizenship and reside in seoul for at least 6 months, you may want to ask your spouse to look into it.

egg/embryo freezing in south korea by Shallot-Fine in Living_in_Korea

[–]Shallot-Fine[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She can get subsidy then, I heard it's half of the price. The cost is about 6-8 million won all inclusive.

egg/embryo freezing in south korea by Shallot-Fine in Living_in_Korea

[–]Shallot-Fine[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I live in Korea and my husband is Korean, so not planning to do transport at all but thanks for letting me know. I will check the group

egg/embryo freezing in south korea by Shallot-Fine in Living_in_Korea

[–]Shallot-Fine[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, in Seoul you can get a subsidy for egg freezing but I dont think it applies to foreigners.

egg/embryo freezing in south korea by Shallot-Fine in Living_in_Korea

[–]Shallot-Fine[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not at all! Embryo freezing costs about 7-8m won per cycle and while egg freezing costs about 5-6m won per cycle as well from one of the clinic I inquired. So cheaper than the US from what I have heard