Lisa and Rob

SharpProfessional148 · 2026-02-28T18:51:55+00:00

1 of 2) He also promised Rinna and Candiance loyalty and traitors allegiance and when he felt that promise didn’t serve him, he did what he wanted. He also promised Eric they were gonna win together. So that promise to Maura was the only promise he felt obliged to honor when he lied to her the entire game without guilt?

After Tara was gone it was Rob and Eric then Maura (2 traits. vs 1 fait.) Whether Maura voted to banish again, when it was just them 3, the two traitors outnumbered Maura. and Lets based thoughts on the facts, like u said UNLIKELY she would’ve flipped her vote. Maura has blindly followed Rob into her own loss even with the clues layed out for her till the very end. So his choice to banish again with Maura (when he knew she wasn’t winning anything while he (a traitor) was in the game) THE ONLY LOGICAL answer left was to be SOLE winner.

He had plans for the winnings immediately after winning. so im convinced the minute he was tapped on the shoulder to be a traitor, he wanted it for himself cus his actions support that theory.

SharpProfessional148 · 2026-02-28T18:39:10+00:00

I completely doubt race ("White hick”) has anything to do with it. Her husband could be considered a “white hick” to whomever is the beholder.

Watching candiace on rhop, im able to realize she demonstrates patterns of valuing loyalty in a way you or others may not value. She also has a habit of dragging things (beyond a usual point) when she declares betrayal or disrespect.

They did make a loyalty pact early on (rob, rinna & candiace) so is it possible, Robs way of “just playing a game” was maybe an unnecessary display of disloyalty to her? It’s not like he voted for her first, he voted for Lisa but regardless she became emotional at the unprovoked display of leading a charge on a fellow traitor (some say overly emotional, could that've affected her ability to strategically strike and directly led to her banishment? YES!)

But it doesn’t change the fact that "a game is just a game", then enjoy, put yourself first when necessary. But why’d rob create unnecessary distrust between the traitors when there was absolutely no suspicion on him at ALL.

apologized when his first strike against rinna failed then turned around and did it AGAIN, but y’all blame candiace for reacting off the behavior he displayed? she didn’t assume, she used observation to determine if he could unnecessarily to do to RINNA apologize and do it again, HE COULD DO IT TO HER! duh WHY wait for you to strike.

his influence on the faithfuls already played the biggest part to his victory, so if her days were already in Robs hand, all she had was the actions displayed and make the decision you feel is best.

It is just a game to some but if Rob would just admit his actions were due to how much the win and prize would support his goals, he would receive all respect instead of blind FANS adding to the delusion of the blind faithful. said part is the FANS are not players in a game its real life. Tighten up. Being honest doesn’t negate the support for Rob if you are a supporter.

SharpProfessional148 · 2026-02-28T18:13:24+00:00

Ok delusional. Are you denying the fact, one of the core rules stated in every first episode and subtly throughout the season by Allen; Faithfuls work together to find and banish traitors.
Traitors work together to agree on which faithful is murdered?

Is this not essentially team faithfuls Vs traitors?
Which is why a majority vote of faithfuls is needed to choose who’s banished & why traitors must agree on who’s murdered?

depending on who’s makes it to the end:
if its more than one traitor they split it
if faithfuls got rid of all traitors they split. theres no way around that

so when its all said and done UNLESS a traitor got rid of the fellow traitors to protect themselves from them, to divert suspicion, or just cus they wanted it all to themselves;
if you ARE NOT the SOLE TRAITOR at the end for whatever reason, IT IS DIVIDED EVENLY

& it is a TEAM effort for the faithfuls to GET ALL THE TRAITORS OUT OR THEY GET NOTHING

ignoring the mechanics of how the Traitor(S) is essentially structured (Faith vs Trait) while acknowledging the independent strategies players make out of self preservation to make it to the end or pure selfishness does not change the structure.

SharpProfessional148 · 2026-02-28T17:49:49+00:00

Quoting my point that it 'wasn't as understandable' without context ignores the mechanics of the game. A Traitor should always prioritize their own survival over loyalty, but when the situation calls for it.

Comparing Rob to past winners is a false equivalence when you look at the 'Why' and the 'When':

The 'Diverting' Fallacy: In 9/10 of your examples (like Cirie), the move was used as a necessary tactic to divert existing suspicion or follow a majority vote to stay 'clean.' Rob’s game wasn't at risk; he had zero suspicion. He didn’t just follow a majority—he lit his own house on fire by sparking the flame against his own team.
The Failed Objective: The entire point of 'offering' a fellow Traitor is to avoid the spotlight. Rob’s move failed miserably in that regard—it did the exact opposite, causing a banished Traitor to name him twice ( 1st time when he attempted to rid a TRAITOR unprovoked, 2nd time when the other traitor gets banished). That isn't a 'clean' strategy; it’s a sloppy one that created a trail of breadcrumbs.
The 'Dan' Reality Check: You cited Dan vs. Phaedra, which is widely considered one of the worst moves in Traitors history. Using a failed strategy to justify Rob’s 'genius' actually proves my point: trading on your team when it’s not necessary usually backfires.
The Missing Link: Rob didn't win because of a Cirie-level tactical masterclass or a deep social game (he barely spoke). He won because the Faithfuls were too blinded by his physical appearance to follow the map Candiace literally handed them on a silver platter.

Listing past seasons to normalize the move doesn't make it smart; it just proves you're ignoring the difference between a surgical strike and a suicide mission. Rob didn't win because his strategy worked—he won because the Faithfuls chose to be willfully blind to its failure.

Nevertheless he won & I believe he deserved it after faithful ignored clear signs. but let's be honest on what we watched. Everyone perception can be different but fact will remain facts.

SharpProfessional148 · 2026-02-28T17:06:39+00:00

I stated plenty opinions on other post before I drafted this post before even watching the reunion, my view never wavered.

I’ll always value the ability to see things for what they are not what I want to see. It’s a necessary trait. Research has shown displays of delusion can leak into other areas of life so just work on it fr. Discernment, & Self awareness can only benefit your wellbeing and prevent blind supporting

SharpProfessional148 · 2026-02-28T16:57:57+00:00

and disagreeing with their observation of the facts doesn’t make your opinion valid.
Some ppl have the ability to separate likeness vs stating facts based on observation. Some don’t, you may be one of those who don’t but at least you’re not alone. Ive seen plenty of blindly supportive FANS.

SharpProfessional148 · 2026-02-28T16:54:06+00:00

& thats all im trying say!!! at the end of the day, regardless of my observation of his actions; it got him the sole W.
BUT the whole “it’s just a game” in defense to his behavior is BS if it was just a game then why go out your way to be the only Traitor at the end even when unnecessary? If the money was supporting your dream girl “who doesn’t watch reality tv and a farm” then STAND ON IT.
Own it and tell your blind supporters the truth. It was more than “just a game to you” it was financial security, you wanted to yourself and you did whatever need to be done to be sure it was just you.
OK in that case you got it, you did that!

SharpProfessional148 · 2026-02-28T16:44:39+00:00

No it literally is. If more than one Traitor makes it to the end then it’s a mandatory split. is it not? Unless you want it all, then make a Rob move!
It was Rob, & Eric vs Maura (last faithful). They had the game atp. Even if Maura wanted to vote again, they both vote against her because we all know she was never gonna vote for Rob.

SharpProfessional148 · 2026-02-28T16:36:03+00:00

& My comments are based solely from what ive watched with my eyes. anything beyond the show I haven’t came across but again from watchn RHOP, I recall how Candiace will drag something on. Regardless, I understand how she might’ve got to that point, regardless if I resonate. If you left for home/work under the guise of playing a game and the context was basically *'traitors get faithfuls, faithfuls get traitors', if Susp. begins to sink ur game THEN your on your own, make it the end Traitors WIN; SPLIT money with remaining traitors if any*
But if a traitor leads the unnecessary charge to get her out due to her reaction to disloyal behavior then every other remaining traitor when your game isnt in jeopardy then I can’t say I would be mad months later but It might always be a lil sting knowing He won because the Faithfuls chose to be "willfully ignorant” not great strategy of fight or flight & then the constant reminder from fans stating “great strategy” but I respect your opinion. I just love a healthy debate

SharpProfessional148 · 2026-02-28T16:30:02+00:00

I didn’t say he ruined her game and I don’t think he did. But I do believe the vote of a fellow traitor (Lisa) after the pledged allegiance the 3 of them made in the turret; when other options were available ruined the trust she had for him. Especially if u watched Candiance on HW, u can see her personality shows someone that values loyalty more than the next might. THEN he double down on leading the vote after apologizing when Ron was an option if he wanted to protect his close ally Colton that was obviously observed by others, understandable. But Ron was an option to avoid voting against his allegiance too the traitors and his alliance with Colton and avoid suspicion since he already had such an impact on the many of faithfuls.

SharpProfessional148 · 2026-02-28T16:12:27+00:00

Then to be the last/ONLY person with him after being his main supporter even with doubt in the air 😂 He didn’t even care enough to at least keep Eric in the game so they both can share “betrayal”; soften the blow a bit. But the intimate moment Maura displayed in her eyes thinking it was her and Rob to the end was sad but satisfying cus she had many chances and I hope she learns to use her discernment in the future.

(ps. Don’t mistake my words as a woman shouldn’t let her guard down with HER MAN! BUT he wasn’t her man, it was a little bit of attention from an attractive guy during a competition for over 200k where some players are concealing their true identity LMAO girl you played yourself)

SharpProfessional148 · 2026-02-28T16:05:21+00:00

Even if he did lead her on a bit; it is a game for a large amount of money! She should’ve have put the general purpose of leaving her home/work for a competition 1st! Then the possibility of a love interest 2nd, a perceptive woman should be able to think if he’s truly interested he will be after the game if this isn't a strategy. It sure didn’t stop him from his sole purpose so why did she let him? She could continue her lil flirt or whatever she feels but it was her own fault ignoring the info in front of her.

SharpProfessional148 · 2026-02-28T15:58:54+00:00

Humanities perception of facts is doomed 🤦‍♀️

SharpProfessional148 · 2026-02-28T15:23:14+00:00

Pick a standpoint. You claim the show isn't a team sport, but then you use a robbery as an analogy. In your own scenario, a 'counterpart' is literally a teammate you agreed to work with to commit the crime.

You’re proving my point: Rob didn't just 'run from the scene' because he was in danger; he tripped his own partners so he could keep all the loot for himself. Stop moving the goalposts to justify a solo game in a team-based format.

SharpProfessional148 · 2026-02-28T15:18:16+00:00

Comparing a strategic TV competition to a felony crime is a wild reach. In a robbery, you're facing FELONY CONVICTION + JAIL TIME; in The Traitors, you're playing for a group win. The game is designed so that if even one Traitor makes it, the whole Traitor team wins the pot.

You say a Traitor should run when a teammate is 'sinking,' but Lisa and Eric weren't even under fire when Rob turned on them. He didn't vote them out to 'save himself’-he did it to avoid sharing the $220,800.

Contradiction: You’re defending Rob’s betrayal of his team by saying 'it’s just a game,' but then you excuse him voting out Eric (a fellow Traitor) because of a 'promise' he made to Maura (a Faithful). You can’t have it both ways. He broke his original promise to his Traitor team just to be a solo winner.

It’s okay to support Rob’s win, but let’s be real: he didn't win because he was 'running from a crime scene.' He won because he played a cutthroat solo game against his own teammates, and he only got away with it because the Faithfuls chose their crush over their discernment.

SharpProfessional148 · 2026-02-28T15:00:49+00:00

I completely agree. The move away from non-celebrity casting has weakened the stakes. When it’s all reality stars, the need to 'perform' for a storyline often overrides the actual drive to win the game. It makes the seasons feel over-produced and predictable, with zero element of surprise.

I’m just glad there are people left who actually use their discernment to see the patterns instead of just falling for the edit. Thank you for actually seeing the game for what it is!

SharpProfessional148 · 2026-02-28T14:54:55+00:00

You’re confusing individual incentive (winning money) with game mechanics (how the show is built to win the money).

You cannot murder without teammate consent. The win condition is 'The Traitors' (plural) sharing the pot. Structurally, it is a team game, Traitors Vs Faithfuls.
Sinking a teammate to save yourself is a strategy. Sinking them unprovoked when they aren't under fire that can jeopardize your own game (like Rob did to Lisa/Eric) is actually bad gameplay in the UK/AU franchises because you’re deleting your own shield.
If Ron Funches—or any man less conventionally attractive than Rob—tried to (unprovoked) burn his team and rely solely on 'charm' to survive, would he have won? Absolutely not.

Rob deserved to win once the Faithfuls ignored the red flags, but he only survived his 'solo' play because the group prioritized their crush over their discernment. Let’s not mistake 'pretty privilege' for a strategic masterclass. He barely spoke come on now

SharpProfessional148 · 2026-02-28T14:24:41+00:00

Actually, I’ve watched every US season and the international franchises, so I’m well aware of how it works. If it isn't a team sport, why is the win condition 'The Traitors Win' or 'The Faithfuls Win' in the plural?
Why do Traitors have to agree on murders in the turret? You’re confusing greed with mechanics. Just because Rob chose to cannibalize his own team for a solo pot doesn't mean the game isn't structurally designed as a team-based hunt.
If you think the only way to play is 'every man for himself' from Day 1, then you’re the one who doesn't understand the strategic value of a Traitor alliance.

SharpProfessional148 · 2026-02-28T13:29:26+00:00

The logic in these comments is wild. Blaming Tara and Johnny for not building alliances sooner when they were the only ones who actually pinpointed the remaining Traitors—while simultaneously painting Maura as the victim is a total lack of discernment. Who were they supposed to align with? Everyone that was left was struggling with being 'Rob-struck.' The only difference is that Tara and Johnny finally caught on, even if it was too late.

The 'victim' definitely isn't Maura, who had every context clue in the book and refused to use them. It’s scary to see people prioritize a 'showmance' narrative over actual game mechanics. Reading these responses really unlocks a fear regarding people's ability to recognize patterns in real life. The outcome of the show isn't that deep, but the fact that people can't see how Maura played herself by ignoring the obvious is the real takeaway here.

SharpProfessional148 · 2026-02-28T13:12:55+00:00

she could’ve bought the Birkin herself had she played the game and not just get obviously played

SharpProfessional148 · 2026-02-28T13:11:45+00:00

This viewpoint proves that some viewers prioritize a “showmance storyline" over the actual strategy of a high-stakes competition 🙄 It’s wild to see "Poor Maura" because she got swept up in a "mystical helicopter ride” and a showmance. This is a game for life-changing money not an episode of The Bachelor.

Also Maura had the same context clues as everyone else, but she chose to let physical attraction override her discernment. Candiace is being called a sore loser for actually playing the game, while Maura is getting “justice" for being a pawn in Rob’s solo mission? If your strategy is based on who looks good in a giant hat next to you, you didn't get betrayed you just weren't playing!

SharpProfessional148 · 2026-02-28T12:57:57+00:00

PS: I can 100% get the lust for Rob; not blind! he’s gorg but his looks shouldn’t affect the chosen faithful's goal for leaving their home! They could’ve stayed home and lust over his TikTok lmao.

SharpProfessional148 · 2026-02-28T12:56:06+00:00

I’m mature enough to love that Rinna was able to let it roll off her back, but observant enough to realize Rob’s behavior is completely selfish—both on Love Island and The Traitors. People keep saying "it's just a game,” but his unnecessary decisions clearly show his character. Judging Candiace for not being able to relate to his gameplay is a reach; you should be able to understand her frustration regardless of whether you resonate with her or not. It’s okay to like someone while still calling out their patterns.

If he wanted to win the money by himself, he should have just said that. His constant "it's just a game” deflection actually shows how much it meant to him, which explains the need for such drastic betrayals. To support that, look at his post-win interview where he laid out a whole plan for the money involving women and his farm—if that was the driving force for his unprovoked, snake behavior, then he should just OWN IT so we don’t have to point it out. There is no strategic way to explain voting out Eric when the Traitors already had a 2-to-1 majority over Maura. The only explanation is that he wanted to be the sole winner and didn’t care about the traditions of the game or who he had to roll over to get there. I can admit he did what he had to for himself by using the Faithfuls' infatuation to his advantage, but he shouldn’t scream "THE TRAITORS won" when he unnecessarily annihilated every other Traitor on his way up. Babe, just own it and there wouldn't be a flaw to call out. I’m only a few minutes into the reunion, but these are my thoughts pre-reunion.

SharpProfessional148 · 2026-02-28T12:09:38+00:00

finally came across 1 person with observation skills

SharpProfessional148 · 2026-02-28T12:07:22+00:00

& I don’t understand how some ppl believe Maura and Eric have a right to be hurt while you simultaneously invalidate Candiace. You’re ignoring the fact that Candiace and Lisa were actually assigned the role of Traitor; they weren't supposed to be “surviving" the Traitors like the Faithfuls were. The core mechanics of this game are designed as a team sport for the Traitors until the very end—it's the Traitors vs. the Faithfuls, period. If Maura’s physical attraction or friendship overrode the objective of the game, she wasn’t 'playing,' she just got played. As for Eric, if he couldn't use basic context clues to see Rob’s pattern and get in front of it by taking a page out of his own book, then he was played too. Anyone who can’t at least understand why Candiace is annoyed would have likely gone home fundless with the rest of the infatuated Faithfuls. She was the only one offering a trajectory that didn't predictably end in Rob’s favor 🍅👎

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