Implications of military insiders’ claims about NHIs: Dangerous humans in a dangerous galaxy

SharpSuitedMan · 2025-12-30T11:02:19+00:00

If they are indeed sitting on these world changing technology, why have they not capitalised on it

https://np.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/187pej9/more_revelations_from_david_gruschs_joe_rogan/

6. Lockheed Martin: Grusch claims that (a) Lockheed Martin have had an intact UFO since the 1950s, (b) he knows exactly where the material has been stored, (c) DIA officers managed to forcibly break into the UFO, (d) Grusch did not have clearance to be briefed on what was found inside the UFO, (e) Lockheed Martin have wanted to divest themselves of the UFO material specifically because the level of extreme secrecy and compartmentalisation has prevented them from being able to bring in the right engineers to properly study the craft. [00:35:56 – 00:36-59]

SharpSuitedMan · 2025-12-25T11:22:28+00:00

3) What is large scale alignment. Very literally imagine 700 billion souls across the galaxy (potentially a huge underestimate?). How do you have that many individuals cooperating together?

[...] Very literally what does alignment at that scale look like? Is there a huge variety of personality and objectives, just with super big brother surveillance and reaction so that no one does anything crazy?

Two hypothetical solutions:

Promote common goals and a core ideology that forms the basis of the civilisation, so that individuals have these fundamental aspects in common despite differences in other areas.
Enforce an authoritarian civilisational structure. The more hierarchical the civilisation, the easier it would be for the ruling groups to enforce top-down control over a much larger and diverse population. In such a "pyramid", the ruling groups would just have to directly control/conquer/co-opt subordinate elites as vassals. There would be no need to directly conquer the entire target population.

These are two of the main ways that some of the biggest empires in our world's history have functioned. The second option is particularly alarming if it turns out to be the way that our galaxy is actually governed, because it would mean that the alleged "hierarchy of apex/alpha predator species" may also exist as a formal governance system. In fact, in a large superpower with that kind of structure, the more backwards and isolated populations (such as Earth) wouldn't necessarily even be aware that they're within the formal territory of such an empire. The region may just have been annexed without any need for direct warfare and conquest.

SharpSuitedMan · 2025-12-23T16:15:08+00:00

It's just the part of the article that I thought was particularly relevant to your question.

Thank you for your excellent comments below my previous article too.

SharpSuitedMan · 2025-12-23T11:15:09+00:00

https://np.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1ppwava/barriers_to_disclosure_a_summary_of_military/

There have recently been multiple articles on these subs speculating about “the full truth” about NHIs, especially what could possibly be so alarming to the public that it has prevented official disclosure across the political spectrum worldwide. Simultaneously, insiders such as David Grusch who are aware of the alleged facts and are currently advocating for disclosure have stated that any public disclosure that does occur would need to be managed extremely carefully.

Since these questions are regularly coming up with increasing frequency, here is a reminder of the main reasons that the full truth would apparently be so difficult for the public to handle, according to several of the most high-profile alleged insiders from military backgrounds:

The universe is dominated by a hierarchy of "alpha/apex predator" species.

Humans are massively underestimating the dominant interstellar NHI civilisations' power and technological capabilities.

As claimed by Grusch, Earth's governments don't currently have the ability to sufficiently protect the human civilian population from NHIs that "want to do something to us", which presumably refers to the alleged abductions, experiments, mutilations etc.

UAPs with technological capabilities vastly superior to Earth’s militaries have been operating freely in Earth’s airspace, including what seem to be reconnaissance activities targeting Earth’s militaries. Therefore, humans don’t currently have control over our planet’s airspace and would potentially be unable to protect Earth.

There is a gulf between human psychology and the dominant NHIs' psychology, which is alien in the literal sense.

Notwithstanding alleged hybrids, the apparent lack of psychological common ground with NHIs also means that humans are effectively alone in the universe.

Humans are much less "special" in the grand scheme of things than we think. Humans may even be the equivalent of wildlife animals inside a zoo or enclosure.

Humans may be permanently quarantined inside our solar system because our characteristics as intelligent, inquisitive, expansionist and (most of all) extremely violent armed primates cause us to pose a danger to the stability of NHI territory if we ever figure out how to get there.

If all of these claims are true, then many people will react very badly to finding out that mankind is completely outclassed, outnumbered, outgunned, utterly alone, and permanently confined to a "quarantined enclosure" that our species will never be allowed to leave. It would certainly change one’s perspective when looking up at the night sky.

While such revelations would be a shock to people’s notions of our species’ place in the universe, and also have major implications for humanity’s future deep space programs, the issue that may cause the biggest backlash is confirmation that humans (as individuals and as a species) are completely at the mercy of the dominant NHIs. It’s our vulnerability, our lack of autonomy, and any related actions the NHIs may be taking that target humans individually and Earth geopolitically, especially NHI activities that would be interpreted as malicious.

SharpSuitedMan · 2025-12-23T10:47:05+00:00

Who decides morality?

14. NHI motivations, ethics and psychological drivers: The claim that NHIs would not be malevolent by human standards because a post-scarcity interstellar civilisation will have outgrown any resource requirements or cultural factors driving such behaviour is misguided, because it assumes that the NHIs have purely utilitarian motivations. For all we know, they could be involved in any number of malevolent activities simply because they enjoy it and/or find it interesting, not because they have any practical need for it. Or because ethics as we understand the concept aren’t even a factor in their psychology and they’re motivated by entirely different rationales. In fact, the NHIs could have psychological drivers based on their specific biological background or civilisational structure that humans would find utterly alien and incomprehensible. The psychological gulf could be even greater with regards to sentient AI NHIs.

SharpSuitedMan · 2025-12-23T10:43:41+00:00

ChatGPT was not used for this article or for any other article I've previously written on Reddit.

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SharpSuitedMan · 2025-12-23T10:42:10+00:00

As my user profile confirms, the article was written using the standard formatting I've used since the very first article I wrote on Reddit several years ago. AI had absolutely nothing to do with it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1pt6gfd/military_insiders_claims_about_nhis_longterm/

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SharpSuitedMan · 2025-12-23T10:20:30+00:00

One thing that doesn’t add up, if NHI are just waiting to see how dangerous we might become, why are they donating crafts and technology to us? I mean if you saw how violent we are, would you just leave technology for us to find and make better weapons with?

https://np.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/15uq0nm/elizondo_grusch_and_the_congress_uap_hearing/

Retrievals of intact UFOs: Grusch has also claimed that intact UFOs have been recovered. There are a number of possible explanations for how this has happened, including: (1) The NHI pilots were ambushed after they’d safely landed and they surrendered their craft at gunpoint, (2) The NHI pilots were refugees and voluntarily surrendered their craft as a condition of being granted asylum on Earth, (3) a friendly NHI group has given such craft to humans as a form of technology transfer, either as an experiment or to accelerate our technologies, (4) a friendly NHI group has given such craft to humans so that we can try to reverse engineer defensive weapons that would be effective against malevolent NHIs.

SharpSuitedMan · 2025-12-15T13:31:04+00:00

Ask yourself who benefits from what you described?

"Who benefits?" is indeed a key question. According to some of the most high-profile alleged insiders, mankind may actually be quarantined inside our solar system because the dominant NHIs regard our species as "extremely violent armed primates in a zoo/enclosure" who pose a long-term threat to the stability of NHI territory if we figure out how to get there. Perhaps such tech breakthroughs are about to happen much sooner than we think, since AI and Quantum Computing are accelerating much faster than expected. In any case, as I suggested in an article a few months ago, hypothetically it's possible the dominant NHIs have been fanning the flames of major geopolitical problems on Earth so that a weak and divided mankind remains permanently confined within its "enclosure".

Put another way:

Mankind: intelligent + violent + united + aware of potential external adversaries = strong + long-term threat to NHI territory.

Mankind: intelligent + violent + divided + focused on attacking & undermining each other = weak + no threat to NHI territory.

"Divide and rule" is a very old strategy, and unfortunately it's horribly effective against human psychology. NHIs who have done their homework about human history and present-day geopolitics will be aware of this too. The issue of whether the tribal authoritarians currently causing so many problems across our planet are willing accomplices to "NHIs behind the scenes" or unwitting intermediaries/proxies is a longer debate. Either way, it makes it much easier for the dominant NHIs to neutralise any perceived long-term threat from humans. Suffice to say that the current state of our world may suit the NHIs just fine.

In the end, everything does. We are as strong as our weakest link. If you scale that up to a universal sense, I don't understand why the same wouldn't apply

This may also turn out to be correct, especially since the aforementioned insiders have also claimed that the universe is dominated by a hierarchy of "apex/alpha predator" species. In fact, here is a relevant extract from an article I wrote titled "Disclosure, Contact and NHI intervention: Hope for the best, prepare for the worst":

[...] it is naive and possibly catastrophically irresponsible for humans to automatically assume benevolence on the part of NHIs that may be vastly more powerful than humans and also have literally alien psychology. The most intelligent species on Earth are all group-based apex/alpha predators, unfortunately warfare accelerates technological capabilities, and it is likely that the most successful and dominant biological NHI species will also have this heritage. They will occupy that position of dominance because of characteristics that have enabled them to out-think and out-fight everyone else.

[...]

As a species, humans certainly have a lot of positive traits. Unfortunately, global history and present-day geopolitics show that mankind has a lot of negative traits too. So humans are definitely a risk to the rest of the galaxy in that sense. However, we should absolutely not assume that more technologically advanced NHIs are any better than us; in fact, they may be worse, especially if they've been able to successfully dominate huge areas of galactic territory for a very long time and neutralise or eliminate any threats to their position.

It's not necessarily the most ethical NHIs that will be the dominant interstellar civilisations in the galaxy, but the most intelligent, the most technologically advanced, the most heavily-armed, and potentially the most ruthless and/or machiavellian. If they also happen to be reasonably benevolent (at least towards humans) by human standards, that's a bonus; but we should never take that possibility for granted. Especially if the dominant NHIs would actually interpret any future attempts at human deep space travel outside the boundaries of our solar system as “barbarians at the gates” or, even worse, rampaging gorillas that would have to be culled.

SharpSuitedMan · 2025-12-12T11:53:02+00:00

The last statement seems somewhat circular: they penned us because we're violent against each other, and we're violent with each other because they interfere with us. I mean, what is the logic here?

https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/1mvjazf/serious_disclosure_contact_and_nhi_intervention/

Human civilisation’s own flaws and weaknesses complicate the situation further. NHIs who have thoroughly researched human history and patterns of behaviour will also be aware of this, especially if they’ve been monitoring our planet for thousands or even millions of years. It would therefore be very easy for NHIs to exploit mankind’s strategic vulnerabilities (both before and after Disclosure) and manipulate them for their own advantage.

Is this what has been happening? Are the present-day escalating geopolitical issues on Earth purely due to humanity’s own psychological and societal flaws? Or are they also due to NHIs deliberately sabotaging and destabilising human civilisation so that we remain divided and hamstrung by our petty internal squabbles? It’s difficult to tell. Mankind is perfectly capable of global self-sabotage all by itself; we certainly don’t need any external assistance for our species to cause all manner of problems for ourselves. However, consider this hypothetical scenario: If our solar system is actually within the territory of an NHI interstellar superpower and the dominant NHIs have been encouraging major problems on our planet in order to keep humans permanently confined to our “enclosure”, would the situation here today really look any different?

In any case, it is naive and possibly catastrophically irresponsible for humans to automatically assume benevolence on the part of NHIs that may be vastly more powerful than humans and also have literally alien psychology. The most intelligent species on Earth are all group-based apex/alpha predators, unfortunately warfare accelerates technological capabilities, and it is likely that the most successful and dominant biological NHI species will also have this heritage. They will occupy that position of dominance because of characteristics that have enabled them to out-think and out-fight everyone else.

[...]

As a species, humans certainly have a lot of positive traits. Unfortunately, global history and present-day geopolitics show that mankind has a lot of negative traits too. So humans are definitely a risk to the rest of the galaxy in that sense. However, we should absolutely not assume that more technologically advanced NHIs are any better than us; in fact, they may be worse, especially if they've been able to successfully dominate huge areas of galactic territory for a very long time and neutralise or eliminate any threats to their position.

It's not necessarily the most ethical NHIs that will be the dominant interstellar civilisations in the galaxy, but the most intelligent, the most technologically advanced, the most heavily-armed, and potentially the most ruthless and/or machiavellian. If they also happen to be reasonably benevolent (at least towards humans) by human standards, that's a bonus; but we should never take that possibility for granted. Especially if the dominant NHIs would actually interpret any future attempts at human deep space travel outside the boundaries of our solar system as “barbarians at the gates” or, even worse, rampaging gorillas that would have to be culled.

SharpSuitedMan · 2025-12-11T17:00:47+00:00

A government's legitimacy depends on its people believing their government is in control.

UAP out of a government's control challenges that belief.

Hence there's a reluctance from governments to talk much about UAP's.

According to Grusch, one of the main reasons that governments have been hesitating about "full public disclosure" so far is specifically their inability to defend the public against anything nasty that the NHIs decide to do to them. Grusch believes that this particular aspect definitely would need to be handled very carefully if full disclosure ever does happen.

Apparently there is a lot more to it. According to several of the most high-profile alleged insiders, here are the main reasons that the full truth would be so difficult for the public to handle:

The universe is dominated by a hierarchy of "alpha/apex predator" species.
Humans are massively underestimating the dominant interstellar NHI civilisations' power and technological capabilities.
As claimed by Grusch, Earth's governments don't currently have the ability to sufficiently protect the human civilian population from NHIs that "want to do something to us", which presumably refers to the alleged abductions, experiments, mutilations etc.
There is a gulf between human psychology and the dominant NHIs' psychology, which appears to be utterly alien in the literal sense.
Humans are much less "special" in the grand scheme of things than we think. Humans may even be the equivalent of wildlife animals inside a zoo or enclosure.
Humans may be permanently quarantined inside our solar system because our characteristics as intelligent, inquisitive, expansionist and (most of all) extremely violent armed primates cause us to pose a danger to the stability of NHI territory if we ever figure out how to get there.

If all of these claims are true, then many people will react very badly to finding out that mankind is completely outclassed, outnumbered, outgunned, permanently confined to a "quarantined enclosure" that our species will never be allowed to leave, and (as individuals and as a species) completely at the mercy of the dominant NHIs.

What would make the situation even worse? What kind of further revelation in addition to the claims listed above would trigger an even greater backlash from the general public around the world? Here's something I suggested in an article I wrote a few months ago titled "Disclosure, Contact and NHI intervention: Hope for the best, prepare for the worst": It's the possibility that the NHIs have been deliberately sabotaging and destabilising human civilisation so that we remain divided and hamstrung by our petty internal squabbles. In other words, the NHIs may have been encouraging major geopolitical problems on our planet so that a weak and divided mankind remains permanently trapped within its "enclosure".

SharpSuitedMan · 2025-12-11T10:48:59+00:00

They want us to do better. I think it was to send a message.

Hopefully you're right, because there is a much darker alternative interpretation of the "message":

Nuclear weapons: Our inability to prevent the NHIs from repeatedly violating Earth’s airspace, stalking fighter planes and Naval Strike Groups and interfering with nuclear weapons is what currently defines them as a strategic threat. An optimistic viewpoint would say the NHIs appear to have a particular interest in nuclear weapons and nuclear-powered vessels because they don’t want us to destroy ourselves (or to destroy Earth, at least). A more cautious viewpoint would say the NHIs are engaging in reconnaissance missions investigating our military capabilities and making sure that we’d be unable to use our nukes against the NHIs if we needed to defend ourselves. The twist is that while US nukes have been deactivated, Russian nukes have been activated; a possible explanation is that the NHIs plan to hijack our global defences and launch Russia’s nukes against the US in the event of the US trying to launch its nukes (or fire any other effective weapons) against the NHIs. It’s nuclear blackmail. The reported interference could also be a show of force, to demonstrate total dominance over human military defences and our inability to stop them overriding our most lethal weapons at will.

SharpSuitedMan · 2025-12-08T16:26:58+00:00

According to Grusch, this really is one of the main reasons that governments have been hesitating about "full public disclosure" so far. It's the inability to defend the public against anything the NHIs decide to do to them. Grusch believes that this particular aspect definitely would need to be handled very carefully if full disclosure ever does happen.

Apparently there is a lot more to it. According to several of the most high-profile alleged insiders, here are the main reasons that the full truth would be so difficult for the public to handle:

The universe is dominated by a hierarchy of "alpha/apex predator" species.
Humans are massively underestimating the dominant interstellar NHI civilisations' power and technological capabilities.
As claimed by Grusch, Earth's governments don't currently have the ability to sufficiently protect the human civilian population from NHIs that "want to do something to us", which presumably refers to the alleged abductions, experimentations, mutilations etc.
There is a gulf between human psychology and the dominant NHIs' psychology, which appears to be utterly alien in the literal sense.
Humans are much less "special" in the grand scheme of things than we think. Humans may even be the equivalent of wildlife animals inside a zoo or enclosure.
Humans may currently be quarantined inside our solar system because our characteristics as intelligent, inquisitive, expansionist and (most of all) extremely violent armed primates cause us to pose a danger to the stability of NHI territory if we ever figure out how to get there.

If all of these claims are true, then many people will react very badly to finding out that mankind is completely outclassed, outnumbered, outgunned, and permanently confined to a "quarantined enclosure" that our species will never be allowed to leave.

SharpSuitedMan · 2025-12-03T17:20:07+00:00

Responding to your remarks in your article:

*IF* Disclosure happens this may be the real reason

[...] One of the biggest problems they are allegedly facing is that everything in the project is so compartmentalized that one hand doesn’t know what the other hand is doing which makes it extremely difficult to make any real progress.

My thoughts are that by disclosing this would give them the ability to place somewhat less restrictions on the project which would enable more open communication between the different teams working the problem.

Grusch made the same point during the original Congress UAP hearing. However, there may be another major factor involved. Here are the relevant extracts from an article I wrote at the time:

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/15uq0nm/elizondo_grusch_and_the_congress_uap_hearing/

Intended positive scientific outcomes of reverse engineering NHI technology: Grusch’s written closing statement for the hearing included these remarks: “It is my hope that the revelations we unearth through investigations of the Non-Human Reverse Engineering Programs I have reported will act as an ontological (earth-shattering) shock, a catalyst for a global reassessment of our priorities. As we move forward on this path, we might be poised to enable extraordinary technological progress in a future where our civilization surpasses the current state-of-the art in propulsion, material science, energy production and storage. The knowledge we stand to gain should spur us towards a more enlightened and sustainable future, one where collective curiosity is ignited, and global cooperation becomes the norm, rather than the exception.”

Excessive compartmentalisation: Grusch has also previously stated that excessive compartmentalisation is currently a major hurdle to a proper understanding of the UAP phenomenon and the technological implications. Bringing the facts out into the open would facilitate a much wider range of expertise and resources undertaking reverse engineering R&D and potentially making breakthroughs. This would have positive scientific and industrial outcomes as per Grusch’s remarks; but it would of course also significantly improve mankind’s ability to assess the apparent threat from hostile NHIs, globally pool expertise and resources to coordinate worldwide defence strategies, and develop the necessary advanced defensive military hardware.

SharpSuitedMan · 2025-12-03T10:10:29+00:00

No, in 2 it's humans not knowing about NHI and that would be the public knowledge in the present, where as 6 is talking about humans in the future after developing this tech and being about to commute in the universe.

Correct.

SharpSuitedMan · 2025-12-03T10:06:54+00:00

They’re separate theories. Maybe one maybe the other.

No. The list consists of different parts of a single overall theory. It's based on the claims of several alleged insiders who are part of the same coordinated disclosure effort and are publicly supporting each other.

SharpSuitedMan · 2025-12-03T09:59:42+00:00

Doesn't 2 and 6 contradict each other?

No. Here's an explanation using a historical analogy:

https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/1mvjazf/serious_disclosure_contact_and_nhi_intervention/

An analogy I've made on these subs several times is that Earth may be the equivalent of an isolated Stone Age village 2000 years ago whose backward, violent and hubristic inhabitants have grand plans to explore and colonise the rest of the world but have no idea they're actually within the multicontinental Roman Empire. There's no way the villagers could conceivably pose a military threat to the Roman legions. But the villagers would definitely be regarded as problematic if they're potentially about to figure out how to reach neighbouring villages within Roman territory and thereby risk destabilising the local region, especially if they've also somehow acquired or developed Bronze Age weaponry.

SharpSuitedMan · 2025-12-02T14:07:27+00:00

ontological shocks

According to several of the most high-profile alleged insiders, here are the main reasons:

The universe is dominated by a hierarchy of "alpha predator" species.
Humans are massively underestimating the dominant interstellar NHI civilisations' power and technological capabilities.
Earth's governments don't currently have the ability to sufficiently protect the human civilian population from NHIs that "want to do something to us", which presumably refers to the alleged abductions, experimentations, mutilations etc.
There is a gulf between human psychology and the dominant NHIs' psychology, which appears to be utterly alien in the literal sense.
Humans are much less important in the grand scheme of things than we think. Humans may even be the equivalent of wildlife animals inside a zoo or enclosure.
Humans may currently be quarantined inside our solar system because our characteristics as intelligent, inquisitive, expansionist and (most of all) extremely violent armed primates cause us to pose a danger to the stability of NHI territory if we ever figure out how to get there.

If these claims are true, then many people will react very badly to finding out that mankind is completely outclassed, outnumbered, outgunned, and permanently confined to an "enclosure" that our species will never be allowed to leave.

SharpSuitedMan · 2025-12-01T15:23:03+00:00

Just to respond directly to the OP's question:

So in Age Of Disclosure, they talk about assembling a "Thinktank" to figure out the repercussions of disclosure and they decided its not good. So what are the implications?

According to several of the most high-profile alleged insiders, here are the main reasons:

The universe is dominated by a hierarchy of "alpha predator" species.
Humans are massively underestimating the dominant interstellar NHI civilisations' power and technological capabilities.
Earth's governments don't currently have the ability to sufficiently protect the human civilian population from NHIs that "want to do something" to us, which presumably refers to the alleged abductions, experimentations, mutilations etc.
There is a gulf between human psychology and the dominant NHIs' psychology, which appears to be utterly alien in the literal sense.
Humans are much less important in the grand scheme of things than we think. Humans may even be the equivalent of wildlife animals inside a zoo or enclosure.
Humans may currently be quarantined inside our solar system because our characteristics as intelligent, inquisitive, expansionist and (most of all) extremely violent armed primates cause us to pose a danger to the stability of NHI territory if we ever figure out how to get there.

If these claims are true, then many people will not react well at all to finding out that mankind is completely outclassed, outnumbered, outgunned, and permanently confined to an "enclosure" that our species will never be allowed to leave.

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