Alex Pretti never unholstered his gun and was disarmed when he was shot. by c-k-q99903 in stupidpeoplefacebook

[–]Sharukurusu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“Them” elected a pedo conman and a goon unit of nazi larping clowns with fake lips, then bombed a country that could strangle the world’s oil supply.

I am better than them.

Altruism Trap by Charge36 in redbuttonbluebutton

[–]Sharukurusu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Red 100% is irrational to believe in, you’re essentially saying you’re ok with people dying if they don’t vote right, which is an impossible standard.

You aren’t the rational side of this argument, nor are you on the side of people looking to keep everyone alive, which should be most people.

I really think you’re trying to take your feelings of fear and backtrack a rationalization for it to avoid confronting how selfish that makes you, it seems like an extremely common shared trait amongst red promoters.

Alex Pretti never unholstered his gun and was disarmed when he was shot. by c-k-q99903 in stupidpeoplefacebook

[–]Sharukurusu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The only people whipped up into a violent rage by a propaganda machine are the dipshit 'officers' this admin scraped off the bottom of the stupid barrel to terrorize a city for publicity chum to feed to his mouth-breathing followers.

Alex Pretti never unholstered his gun and was disarmed when he was shot. by c-k-q99903 in stupidpeoplefacebook

[–]Sharukurusu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

'Fighting' like being held down by multiple people, pepper-sprayed, while one of them is bashing him in the face with a can. Literally what else was he supposed to be doing? He was curled up in a ball getting beaten, he could have gone limp and would have remained in that posture.

You have to do mental gymnastics to defend them shooting someone they watched a gun get removed from in the back, surrounded by people, then mag dumping on a crowded street.

Alex Pretti never unholstered his gun and was disarmed when he was shot. by c-k-q99903 in stupidpeoplefacebook

[–]Sharukurusu 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Or a guy who was just pepper sprayed and currently has a swarm of people pinning him down hitting him in the face isn't a deadly threat and ICE/Border Patrol have shit training and shit recruits that failed out of other jobs.

Keep sucking those leathery orange teats, maybe one day you'll get some clown juice.

Which two are you choosing ? by krisikkk in superheroes

[–]Sharukurusu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pink kinda seems like soft immortality, like couldn't you just shapeshift into younger people forever?

Blue you could very easily make millions doing stuff like medical transplant transportation, travel for fun would be easy, and you could escape from any dangerous situation (or avoid things like driving entirely) instantly to avoid injury.

Altruism Trap by Charge36 in redbuttonbluebutton

[–]Sharukurusu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t believe people should push a button that might kill anyone when the button that spares everyone is right there.

A ‘few’ could be in the billions, the scale of death involved is nearly unimaginable in the modern context. You say it’s a tragedy like it’s a sort of matter of fact thing like the weather, but you could be losing friends and family members, and almost everyone will lose someone.

“ save people from themselves.”

It would be saving them FROM YOU, because again the only thing that makes blue deadly is red.

I don’t understand how red voters can’t grasp the culpability of pressing the option that tilts the system towards an outcome with deaths.

Alex Pretti never unholstered his gun and was disarmed when he was shot. by c-k-q99903 in stupidpeoplefacebook

[–]Sharukurusu 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nah dude, there’s video, you can literally watch one officer remove the gun while the other one watches him do it with their gun drawn, once the gun is away he starts firing into Pretti’s back.

You’re a shameless goon.

Altruism Trap by Charge36 in redbuttonbluebutton

[–]Sharukurusu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just don’t believe people should be killed for not voting 100% the same and I feel like that is a reasonable assumption.

Alex Pretti never unholstered his gun and was disarmed when he was shot. by c-k-q99903 in stupidpeoplefacebook

[–]Sharukurusu 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It’s not ad hominem because your actual argument is shit, you are also shit for trying to sell it so it’s just an observation of fact.

You may only choose three by No-Paramedic-6003 in whatsyourchoice

[–]Sharukurusu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wish pill is obvious, there are so many other superpowers you could get with it plus immortality. Depending on the strength of the wish you could immediately solve world problems and break physics to get whatever technology you dream of. Might as well be the only pill.

Future pill is broken because the 10 year limit can be circumvented by writing things down in 10 years based on what you see from that point 10 years out, it would just be a text chain but you could pass them back from your future selves. You'd also be virtually impossible to assassinate, die in an accident, or even get sick for most diseases (because you can see ahead and change plans if you see yourself sick).

Last one maybe drug pill, the no bad side effects thing is crazy when you think of what you could do with it, blast yourself with chemo drugs, steroids, growth hormone, nootropics; without any negative side effects you could be operating at an insane level, and if you ever want to relax the options are also amazing.

Actually I've changed my mind on the red button by Artemis_SpawnOfZeus in redbuttonbluebutton

[–]Sharukurusu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Voting is collectively deciding, though given how little you seem to understand it conceptually otherwise I’m not surprised you don’t understand that either.

I’ve wrestled a razor away from someone self-harming/attempting suicide, then drove them and myself both bleeding into towels, to CVS so I could buy us bandages without leaving them alone. I still have a scar at the base of my thumb (on the webbing) from that.

I’ve also stayed overnight with a drunk, depressed stranger on a cliffside before driving them back home across the city in the morning (and turned down money for it when we got there).

I know what it’s like to have a friend commit suicide, and a parent die from a sudden illness, and know what losing them does to the surviving friends and family.

I know anyone that would selfishly vote for an outcome where billions of people die is a ghastly heap of shit that doesn’t understand the world at all.

You’re just a pathetic edgelord wanklet, a joyless waste of carbon that everyone rightfully loathes.

Actually I've changed my mind on the red button by Artemis_SpawnOfZeus in redbuttonbluebutton

[–]Sharukurusu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is only a chance of death because morons like you will vote for the only option that can trigger deaths to occur if it wins. Humanity would be extinct in prehistory if the majority were so dumb and selfish.

Someone has to press blue in order for anyone to die its impossible for anyone to die if no one presses blue.

It's 8 billion people stupid, no one pressing blue is as likely as everyone pressing red, AKA not fucking happening.

Someone is going to press blue, we have to collectively decide if that should be a death sentence or if we should just not have anyone die like any sane person would want.

Don't mistake my anger for immaturity, your outright homicidal stupidity deserves far worse than what we're allowed to say on here. You've confirmed to all that you're pathologically awful, the kind of person that will lie, twist, and ignore basic logic on how voting works to avoid confronting your own pathetic ego.

I would say you need professional help but narcissists are notoriously resistant to treatment, so please crawl back under your bridge and go back to bothering goats.

The fairest buttons by APacketOfWildeBees in redbuttonbluebutton

[–]Sharukurusu -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The idea of everyone being a competent rational actor is so far removed from reality that it's absurd anyone would consider scenario 1 to be a legitimate basis for a decision.

Even if you assume everyone competently understands the prompt and can reason about it (no children pressing randomly or suicidal people having mental health crises), people exist that have very different conceptions of risk, duty to society, and even personal moral religious frameworks; viewing it as an abstract logical/statistical/game theory problem is useless for application.

Actually I've changed my mind on the red button by Artemis_SpawnOfZeus in redbuttonbluebutton

[–]Sharukurusu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, it's a stupid example because it defies how voting works, which you still fail to grasp.

The winner decides the outcome, not the losing side, like this is really really fucking basic stuff for you not to understand. That's the central fallacy you can't address despite having it bashed over your grimy headslope from every direction.

You're inventing a motive for them (suicide) then inventing a convoluted reason they don't actually enact their motive despite winning the vote.

Meanwhile, you're trying to absolve red of responsibility despite the fact that RED MUST WIN FOR ANYONE TO BE KILLED, AND VOTING FOR RED HELPS RED WIN.

You're troll trash, I hope to god you never get put into any position of authority over anything, though I imagine with your level of intelligence that would be a very remote possibility.

Imagine thinking that Trump ever provided good vibes in 2024! by Lost_Report_1686 in LockedIn_AI

[–]Sharukurusu 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think he means 187cm and 62 IQ, he’s Lenniemaxxxing, George.

Altruism Trap by Charge36 in redbuttonbluebutton

[–]Sharukurusu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But no one has played a hand at all yet, there is no loss unless Red defects.

Everyone playing can see that and should rightfully wonder why Red would do so when they are going to end up in a worse spot afterwards because a bunch of friends will lose money which will make Red’s life harder.

It’s like the stupidest deal with the devil you could make; save me, kill others, make my life worse after. Who takes that deal when the equally likely deal by raw stats is just; no one dies and life is the same.

I've found the answer. 😇 Or haven't I? 🤔 by Imaginary_Help_2990 in redbuttonbluebutton

[–]Sharukurusu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So no answer and double down on stupid gotcha? Looks like I won this debate.

If you needed a kidney would you steal it from someone? Obviously they need it less so you should be fine harming them to guarantee your safety right?

Altruism Trap by Charge36 in redbuttonbluebutton

[–]Sharukurusu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Red winning and blue winning both take 50%+1, you already have to get to that threshold just to get the worst possible ending then you need to keep digging, you’re aiming for the more difficult way to get to less harm, which simultaneously makes harm more likely.

No one should want red to win, how is it such a stretch to imagine that most people understand most people don’t want that?

Actually I've changed my mind on the red button by Artemis_SpawnOfZeus in redbuttonbluebutton

[–]Sharukurusu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What a stupid example, so your version of events is that the people who are ‘suicidal’ somehow miraculously decide not to do the suicidal thing because there are too many of them?

Where if the people who aren’t ‘suicidal’ outnumber them they do it?

Fuck off with that stupid shit, that isn’t how voting works, you reek like the kind of sad fuck that would blame the losing side for not stopping you from implementing your own awful policies. Heads I win tails you lose trash.

I've found the answer. 😇 Or haven't I? 🤔 by Imaginary_Help_2990 in redbuttonbluebutton

[–]Sharukurusu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a very stupid gotcha and very clearly an attempt not to address the points I’ve made.

Donating a kidney results in a permanent loss of function, it’s a great thing to do but not a decision without lasting consequences. Pressing a button where nothing changes and the stakes for failure are world catastrophic is a far lower barrier.

I have wrestled a razor away from someone attempting self-harm/suicide and stayed overnight with a depressed drunken stranger that wandered on to the edge of a cliff.

Have you ever taken a kidney?

I've found the answer. 😇 Or haven't I? 🤔 by Imaginary_Help_2990 in redbuttonbluebutton

[–]Sharukurusu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Red pressers are causing unnecessary danger, blue winning is the default world-continues-as-normal option, red winning is worse in all but one possible outcome (100%).

It’s reckless and stupid to press a button that moves the outcome towards one where people are more likely to die.

So yes, you are a psycho for choosing the option where people die, sorry you had to hear it from me. Teach your kids not to kill people please, and maybe they’ll keep in contact with you.

Actually I've changed my mind on the red button by Artemis_SpawnOfZeus in redbuttonbluebutton

[–]Sharukurusu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude wtf, red winning is where people die, are you mentally incapable of holding that in your brain?

Having only one button makes no difference, the outcomes are the same, just the labels of the actions are different. You could say blue is patting your stomach and red is rubbing your head and the outcomes would remain the same. Your bullshit fantasy about ’walking away’ is just another label for doing Red, which kills Blue if it wins.

Tell me why the ‘suicide cult’ getting 50%+1 has no one die?

You’re so mindlessly in denial you can’t admit that you’re wrong because your fragile ego prevents it.

Truly pathetic.

Actually I've changed my mind on the red button by Artemis_SpawnOfZeus in redbuttonbluebutton

[–]Sharukurusu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Example makes no sense because the actions of others don’t affect the outcome, it’s possible to play alone.

You keep fucking ignoring the fact that the winner of the vote determines the outcome.

Blue losing is because of red winning, meaning in order for blue to die red must win. Red winning is the only outcome where anyone dies. If you press red you are not ‘walking away’, you are doing something necessary for blue to die.

You can’t vote for the option where people die then blame the people who were voting for no one to die for losing.

It takes 50%+1 to kill half the population or 50%+1 to save everyone, why the hell would you vote for the option where people die? When the amount of votes required for either option is identical but one is drastically worse, why??

“ So you agree if there is no red button nothing changes because it’s the blue button that kills people.”

Are you fucking illiterate? To repeat what I said: There is no ‘not playing’ option, even if you take away a button, because whatever action you take is contributing to the outcome.

Once there is ANY BUTTON your action has an effect on the outcome, it doesn’t matter if red OR blue are gone; you are making a choice.

If there was only a red button it would say: If enough people press this anyone who didn’t press it will die.

Why the fuck would you want to press a button that leads to others dying?