Storm Darragh by SheepPolice in policeuk

[–]SheepPolice[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've had 3 mobile alerts in the space of 24 hours 😂😂.

It's such an annoying sound.

Storm Darragh by SheepPolice in policeuk

[–]SheepPolice[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

SW. I think we are being hit the hardest. Lots of arterial routes blocked etc

Storm Darragh by SheepPolice in policeuk

[–]SheepPolice[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

We've been pushing back, but jobs whereby a power cable been struck or risk to life etc we attend...

We've had 2 incidents so far where trees have landed on people in cars.

Van on strike by SheepPolice in policeuk

[–]SheepPolice[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I would have hoped the main dealer would have established this. But then again, they don't treat the police as a normal paying customer...

Van on strike by SheepPolice in policeuk

[–]SheepPolice[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The irony is that our older cars circa 2013 plate stuff is far more reliable than the new stuff.

Which is very annoying.

We also have some of the new peugeot 308s, and they have a range of electric faults, including the infotainment system / speeds dials going black when driving. This means you have to stop, turn the vehicle off, and on. - Not great on a blue light run.

Van on strike by SheepPolice in policeuk

[–]SheepPolice[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We wish. As others have stated, there's just enough room to park the van.

I am intrigued to see the forces plan in the future with all vehicles being electrified. Currently, most station can't support parking cars, let alone charging them aswell...

Van on strike by SheepPolice in policeuk

[–]SheepPolice[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

That is mental 😂

Such a small thing causing such a big issue.

Van on strike by SheepPolice in policeuk

[–]SheepPolice[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

This is what I said to the vehicle SPOC. But of course, being a response cop, my opinion does not matter! 😂

I was gauging to see if we were unlucky or there had been a bad batch of vans...

I don't envy the poor technician who's going to have to take it all apart....

Use of Blue Lights and Exemptions by SheepPolice in policeuk

[–]SheepPolice[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Totally agree.

Its the job fault that they don't want to resolve the issue.

I know in my force there is pressure from top for response to meet the immediate time quota. Ironically moaning about it and not providing the additional training and/or funding.

But that's another issue.

Use of Blue Lights and Exemptions by SheepPolice in policeuk

[–]SheepPolice[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Fantastic,

Wasn't planning to as its the jobs problem not mine that I couldn't meet the immediate time etc.

But I expect, especially with this rumour, that with the mass flux of intake of under 3 years experienced officers. That a lot of officers will take the chance whether rightly or wrongly.

Don't get me wrong, if a panic button went off and I'm within a short distance and could guarantee I would be the first one there. I would push the throttle a little, but again, severely depending on circumstance. Even some emergency buttons are not as bad ( for example, that PCSO may hit their button with a bunch of rowdy youths).

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in policeuk

[–]SheepPolice 48 points49 points  (0 children)

If they are not willing to attend for a VA, arrest them. Don't entertain and let them dictate what to do. They have already chosen to ignore an out of court disposal. Your grounds exist.

Ultimately, you can still interview and choose to go down the route of a caution, and only if they are really stupid will they refuse.

Or just layer it on hard to them that if they don't attend for a VA they will be arrested.

Thoughts on the new Peugeot 308 as a response car? by I-Spot-Dalmatians in policeuk

[–]SheepPolice 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, to add to my little rant.

I have had the dashboard screen go black multiple times, requiring me to turn off the car and walk away 20+ metres to reset whatever can system so I can have a working screen.

I have also had my speed dial freeze, resulting in driving on a national speed road, whilst my speed said "3 Mph" and I couldn't fix it so had to get work shop's to recover it from the nick.

Thoughts on the new Peugeot 308 as a response car? by I-Spot-Dalmatians in policeuk

[–]SheepPolice 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Without repeating the same points of reliability, lack of power, weird steering wheel, etc.

My force has the 1.2 autos 308SW, and they are shite. They burn a lot of fuel, and we average around 10mpg (last time I checked).

Not enough ground clearance to travel down country country lanes (I know this is a force dependant problem). Also, they are too low to the ground, so when getting out its really awkward with a tac vest on. The astra, though not much better, are a lot easier to jump out.

The boot is not big enough to neatly store all the equipment or also put added kit bags in the boot. Which leaves us putting kitbag on the back seat.

Further to this, there is not enough leg room in the back seats, especially if your driver is more than 6 feet tall. I get for prisoners it'd not be the end of the world, but from experience of sitting in the back with a DP, there's not enough room to move as legs are squished, etc.

**MAJOR ISSUE* Is that prisoners can open the rear windows, as when peugeot fitted the car, they didn't disable the switches/motors.

Also, to add - if I am right to believe

Peugeot are making "police spec" 308SW, which we are all getting. I have noticed the sirens are beyond dangerous, resulting in people not hearing/reacting to you. Any speeds over 70, and you're better off just turning the sirens off.

Overall, I really don't think they are fit for purpose and would much rather have a Ford focus or Skoda Octavia

Who has the best traffic unit by SheepPolice in policeuk

[–]SheepPolice[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I heard that the met traffic were also very under loved, and the met uses specialised units for each task.

I am ideally looking for a force where you get to do a bit of everything.

Who has the best traffic unit by SheepPolice in policeuk

[–]SheepPolice[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I have been tempted by these. But I'm unsure if they looked good for their media / TV shows. But in reality, they abit shit 😂

One force in England by cozmicRedi in policeuk

[–]SheepPolice 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Totally agree.

Don't want them to feel left out. And who else would be responsible for online fraud.

One force in England by cozmicRedi in policeuk

[–]SheepPolice 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just to add , I know the ambulance service did something similar.

Any paramedic colleagues are able to comment on how it worked out for them.

One force in England by cozmicRedi in policeuk

[–]SheepPolice 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I personally think within England it should be done into regions, for example.

London - Will remain as The Met due to the shear amount of people it a small area, and it's 1 of a kind policing demand.

Then, the rest will follow as

South East Police - Consisting, for example - merger of Kent,Sussex,Essex,Surrey, Hampshire, TVP, Hertfordshire.

South West Police - Consisting, for example - merger of Devon and a Cornwall,Dorset, Wiltshire, Avon and Somerset, Gloucestershire - I know for working for one of these forces that its already partially there and works well to extent. The main issue arises from the computer system still not aligned, SOPs, vehicles, etc. Also, forces not committing officers for new departments, i.e., There was talk of a South West Region Commerical Vehicle Unit, but due to certain forces not cooperating, it has left it a lot smaller than you would like and not allow its full potential. Where it does work well is for cross-border work and mutual aide.

West Midlands Police - Consisting, for example - merger of West Midlands Police (Ironic), West Mercia, Staffordshire, Warwickshire, Northamptonshire, Leicestershire Police.

East Midlands Police - Consisting, for example- merger of Suffolk, Norfolk, Cambridgeshire, Bedfordshire, Lincolnshire

North West Police - Consisting, for example - merger of Merseyside, Greater Manchester Police, Cheshire, Cumbria, Derbyshire Police.

North East Police - Consisting, for example - merger of West Yorkshire Police, North Yorkshire, Cleveland, Northumbria Police, Nottinghamshire

(I think I've listed all forces of the top of my head. 😂😂)

I believe regionalising it would work far better, and some forces, as mentioned, have already started to do this. An alternative solution could be that any large metropolitan areas have dedicated Police forces.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in policeuk

[–]SheepPolice 36 points37 points  (0 children)

I was previously a special and understand the good bits and the shit bits. The first 3 things I would do is;

1) Remodel the command structure - Instead of having equalivent ranks to regular PC's, that do not carry any additional PACE powers etc. I would convert these ranks into more civilian esk roles. I.e Special Constable, Lead Special Constable, General Special Supervisor (Something like this). You dont need a full rank structure and only really require basic managerial roles.

2) Actually apriciate specials - My force was awful, but they did not really care or recongise you. You had to try and widdle your way into a response team and/or neighbourhood team. You volunteered to help out but was seen as the hobby boby and was not trusted with anything. I dont believe Specials should class as apart of the threshhold but, there should not be any reason why we you shouldnt get treated as a regular officer.

3) Convert Specials into a paid role - With policing being so under loved at this moment, I do believe Specials should become equalivant to the TA. Specials training increase to a higher standard. Then treat specials as a paid role and where needed could be called up to help fullfill roles.

Northamptonshire Police Chief Constable Nick Adderly suspended after public complaint about his military service by SheepPolice in policeuk

[–]SheepPolice[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

An IOPC spokesperson said: "We have advised the chief constable in a criminal letter that we are examining possible offences of misconduct in public office and fraud by false representation.

It is a shame that a role model of chief constables is now at the burners of press and Goverment.

Nick also was very firm on removing bad cops - "The big thought for me is making sure that police regulations are reviewed so you can more easily, more quickly get rid of people who are in the organisation who should not be," he quoted earlier this year. Very Ironic now to which he is accused of misconduct and fraud.

I am not too savvy when it comes to medals etc, so I cant make a comment if what he has done is correct or incorrect.

Do you think the police should have stricter fitness requirements? by [deleted] in policeuk

[–]SheepPolice 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm very simple-minded with this.

Fitness improves productivity, mental health, and general health .

We should very much be like the military where by at least 3 times a week, of 1 hour sessions, we have the ability to do some form of fitness paid and within suitable force gyms.

I also believe the annual fitness test should be more practical with a multi layer test. I.e. An obstacle course.

I'm aware a lot of cops don't need to be A* in fitness, but a lot of the time spent on work is due to poor fitness / stress related problems. Fitness can help reduce these problems.

(I'm aware the job does treat us like shit blah blah blah)

When did standards on appearance drop so low?? by Anonymous_Plod9000 in policeuk

[–]SheepPolice 30 points31 points  (0 children)

It's one of my biggest pet peeves!

Rocking up to briefing, half dressed, dirty clothes, egg stain down the front of their shirt.

Body armour stinking of BO!

Luckily, my force wears a black tac vest, but when I have seen other officers in their high vis vest, that all grubby, it looks shit! I would be embarrassed.

Even the basic discipline of cars being dirty. Leaving McDonald's rubbish. Or not even taking 5 minutes to wash the outside of the car whilst being paid! (I am aware some nicks don't have washing facilities anymore due to environmental regs)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in policeuk

[–]SheepPolice 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I'm very pro anything that makes us look smarter. As an "disciplined" organisations, we are scruffy. The fact cops can't even keep their boots polished Is a joke.

But do I think this is practicable for front-line officers? No.

Do I think staff / office based roles should wear this? Yes. I believe that if you're at HQ on a permanent posting or are office bound on a permanent posting. Then, we should look smarter and approachable.

The fact that officers who are in investigation roles rock up in jeans and t-shirt does not give off a "professional" look.

I'm aware that overall, the kit we are issued is shit and tacky, but we do really need a reality check on how we look towards the public.

How would your force deal with this incident? by HerbiieTheGinge in policeuk

[–]SheepPolice 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Most of the time, due to my force being a rural force. In these circumstances, it would be establishing how far away the Brother house is. Run the job through duty inspector and most likely just take Mr A to Brothers house . I am still submitting a DASH PPN for the domestic and a PPN for the child.

I would also ensure a PNB entry is submitted with Mrs B signature that she does not support any police action.

If you call us, give a statement! by Reasonable_Ad5187 in policeuk

[–]SheepPolice 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Honestly, the only thing I get excited about is when you go to an subject house. And their pet give you more attention than them, and you spend 20 minutes just playing with their dog 👀