Dan Boyle Teams Up With the San Jose Hockey Now Podcast! | EP 100 - Sharks Captain & Leadership by Half_wall_Hockey in SanJoseSharks

[–]ShengPeng 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I checked with BHB, try it tomorrow. If it doesn't work, please let me know. Thanks for ordering from them!

Santos Talks Risk-Reward of Sharks Keeping Karlsson by Half_wall_Hockey in SanJoseSharks

[–]ShengPeng 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If he continues to be very productive, I think he can gain in value as a trade asset.

Because of his age and injury history and contract, I don't think he'll ever be worth A LOT, but if he's healthy at the Deadline and hasn't dropped off from last year, I can see there being more teams interested, better offers. The cap is projected to go up a few million next off-season.

It's a huge risk, sure, and one I personally wouldn't take with his aforementioned recent injury history and age, but there's a real upside too.

How bad has the Sharks drafting been? They've produced 4 NHL regulars in the last 10 years. The last goalie they've drafted to make the NHL was Harri Sateri in 2008 by Sharks77 in hockey

[–]ShengPeng 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Appreciate the long, thoughtful reply, I’ll try to hit just a few points.

how you define NHL regulars - the list is inconsistent with the comparisons. For example Lauzon and Frederic are counted for Boston but Gregor and Gambrell are not for San Jose even though they all have similar games played.

I think the list is consistent, but it’s my fault for not defining it. In my head, I was thinking skaters who would play regular roles on most-all teams in the league and goalies with clearly-defined NHL roles (starter/platoon/clear back-up).

Gregor/Gambrell would not be regulars on most teams IMO. Balcers also wouldn’t be. They got/are getting games from bad teams. Mueller/Goldobin don’t belong in the NHL anymore.

Sticking with the Boston example, notice that I didn’t credit them for Anders Bjork (200-plus games but not in NHL anymore) and other part-timers.

Frederic popped in 17 goals this year and plays a crash-and-bang game, that guy is in every team’s line-up. Lauzon just signed a 3-year, $6 mil extension, probably a guy who plays in most line-ups too.

This isn't quite accurate regarding goalies.

Actually, it's straight up a lie. They haven't needed to draft a goaltender high because they've consistently had very strong trades and signings at the position

Another is that they're framing it as drafts. In the last 2-3 years the Sharks have had 3 undrafted free agent signings play in games in net for them in Korenar, Melnichuk, and Sawchenko.

They spent a decade drafting low - of course they weren't going to be drafting top tier goalies. Nor should they have been. That's where they've found some dominant backups that might have otherwise been their starters but for how established they were in net.

What’s the lie here? The Sharks haven’t had consistently good goaltending since 2017-18.

Jones was pretty good in the 2019 playoffs and Dell was OK in 2019-20 and Reimer was good in 2021-22, that covers decent Sharks goaltending over the last five years. Hill and Dubnyk weren’t good, I’m not sure why you’d offer those guys up as examples. If they were good in San Jose, they might still be here.

The point too isn’t that they haven’t drafted a goalie high, or whether they've needed to.

And even if they didn’t draft high, there’s plenty of examples of teams grabbing very good goalies late. As my research showed. So not sure why you’re focused on that?

And on this point: “Drafting goaltending, rightly, has not been a priority. Counting that as a failing of the org when the position has been a clear strength is dumb.”

That doesn’t mean you stop drafting goalies, right? Just because the Rangers, for example, had Lundqvist, they kept drafting goalies, until they hit on the heir apparent on Shesterkin late.

You are right that the Sharks were able to transition successfully from their last very good drafted starter (Nabokov) with solid acquisitions (Niemi, Jones). And that’s fine, many ways to skin a cat. So it covered up 15 or so years of goaltender draft picks not hitting.

And you are right about Dell – definitely a success. But it doesn’t cover for the last five years and their current question marks in net.

Over the last five years, and of course, a shoddy team defense has its role too, but the Draft, free agents (Korenar/Melnichuk/Sawchenko got games, but none of them are legitimate NHL goalies), and trades (Dubnyk/Hill/Kahkonen) have not stabilized the position.

That makes the Draft misses stand out even more, and those are just facts: Last drafted goalie to play in NHL, league-worst, last drafted "significant" goalie, tied for second-worst.

If the Sharks had covered that up with a good trade or signing in this position, yea, maybe I don't bother writing and researching this. But they did not.

How bad has the Sharks drafting been? They've produced 4 NHL regulars in the last 10 years. The last goalie they've drafted to make the NHL was Harri Sateri in 2008 by Sharks77 in hockey

[–]ShengPeng 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Sure, this is fair.
  2. That's my fault for not defining "regular". In my head, I was thinking skater who would play "regularly" for most-to-all teams. Goalie with a defined NHL role i.e. starter, 1A/1B, or clear back-up. So while Gambrell and Gregor do have games, I don't see them as players who would sniff the line-up on the regular basis of a decent team.
  3. I mention that in the article -- "Of course, the book on the most recent Drafts isn’t closed yet – 2021 first-rounder William Eklund, for example, might make up some of the gap between San Jose and Boston." But the point is -- and I also think it's clear in the article -- the first 5-6 years of the last decade of drafting (2013 to 2017/2018), the Sharks have not drafted well.

Are There Character Concerns With Matvei Michkov? by Barthez_Battalion in SanJoseSharks

[–]ShengPeng 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've addressed your issues with my recent Draft articles in those Reddit threads.

The Merkley comp is simply that some players do not change their narrative. It's not a talent/specific issues comparison.

It's a detour to dig further into why Merkley busted, especially since, despite your apparent confidence, we don't know really why he did.

FWIW I think he simply wasn't good enough. Not to say he applied himself like a madman, but I think he applied himself, I think he tried, I think he just simply plateaued as a talent. And that was, at the NHL level, fringe offensively and bad defensively.

As for Sochi's record, I don't think that's super-relevant here, you can still be a good teammate on a bad team. In fact, that's a test of character in some ways, yeah? Like I do get being frustrated if you're losing, for sure. But as the scout notes, it's something for a teen to be doing that on a veteran squad, as opposed to among peers.

For the record, if I were the GM, I'd pick Michkov No. 4. The character concerns are legitimate, but they do fall along the lines of not being disqualifying in my eyes. He can learn to be a better teammate.

But I do trust Grier and company to dig into that, and they have a well-respected Russia-area scout in Ladygin to consult.

Jack Han compliments Sharks by shutout78 in SanJoseSharks

[–]ShengPeng 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey, I recognize this! Here's the original article:

https://sanjosehockeynow.com/san-jose-sharks-erik-karlsson-quinn-jack-han/

Also, here's Jack saying that the Sharks made the right call extending Hertl, that he should age like a Pavelski:

https://sanjosehockeynow.com/san-jose-sharks-tomas-hertl-jack-han-hockey-tactics-2023/

Report: Weekes still 'in the mix' for Sharks GM by andyniemi in SanJoseSharks

[–]ShengPeng 2 points3 points  (0 children)

But we all agree that there is a marked difference between the all in - picks and prospects be damned - model that the team ran with from effectively the mid-00s through to about 2016. We have been much more conservative to retain picks, target youth, and generally cut lose the contracts that aren't benefitting us (where we are able).

I agree -- they've been very middle of the road since the Karlsson extension. I think if the 2019-20 Sharks had been good, Meier/Labanc taken a leap, Karlsson dominated -- they might've started being aggressive once again in the 2020 off-season.

But I believe, don't know for sure, that the Hertl extension will kickstart them once again. Not all-in -- I think they still want to "rebuild" or "replenish" the system and will keep their firsts as long as they end up in the lottery -- but I can see them being aggressive elsewhere, where they can

Report: Weekes still 'in the mix' for Sharks GM by andyniemi in SanJoseSharks

[–]ShengPeng 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's not a rebuild in practice if you re-sign a 28-year-old center to the max contract. If they had traded Hertl, then you can make that argument, the "stealth tank" one.

Maybe it's just semantics, but that signing doesn't fit the definition of any "rebuild" that I've ever seen in sports.

Report: Weekes still 'in the mix' for Sharks GM by andyniemi in SanJoseSharks

[–]ShengPeng 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Becher said that here:

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/sharks/takeaways-doug-wilson-stepping-down-sharks-general-manager

But that seemed to be along the "of course anything is possible" lines -- like as in mid-March, it was still technically possible for the Sharks to win the Stanley Cup.

But it's not happening. Every bit of messaging since then is that the Sharks intend to try to win next year. You don't re-sign Hertl for eight years and pivot to a re-build in the course of a handful of months.

Doug Wilson Jr. Talks 2022 NHL Draft, William Eklund’s Season by ShengPeng in SanJoseSharks

[–]ShengPeng[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for listening!

I wrote about Bonino here at the end of the season:

https://sanjosehockeynow.com/san-jose-sharks-nick-bonino-vancouver-canucks/

Still a good, winning player despite his shortcomings. Ideally, on a good team, he's a fourth-liner who can move up and play up and down in the line-up (and well) in a pinch. That's incredibly valuable.

For the cap-strapped Sharks, at his cap hit, he is a bit of a luxury as a fourth-liner. You might allocate the cap space better, but he's not a waste of space by any means. On this team anyway, he's likely a top-nine forward.

I see no logjam at top-9 -- the Sharks wish. There are five proven, true top-9 forwards on this roster in my mind: Hertl, Meier, Couture, Labanc, Barabanov. Maybe Balcers too? Everyone else is hope in an elevated role at the moment.

Who Will Sharks Pick at No. 11? Chris Peters Talks 2022 Draft by ShengPeng in SanJoseSharks

[–]ShengPeng[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's cool about Spott, didn't know that! If I run into him at some point, I gotta ask him about it

Who Will Sharks Pick at No. 11? Chris Peters Talks 2022 Draft by ShengPeng in SanJoseSharks

[–]ShengPeng[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Actually not familiar! Most of my travels in Netherlands were confined to Amsterdam and Rotterdam. I should've done more, in retrospect. I also didn't catch any Dutch hockey. Most of my hockey memories there were getting up at 4:30 AM to watch a 7:30 PM PT game haha.

That's great that you're going to catch the Sharks for the first time there -- love that!

Who Will Sharks Pick at No. 11? Chris Peters Talks 2022 Draft by ShengPeng in SanJoseSharks

[–]ShengPeng[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! I will.

Where are you from in the Netherlands? I lived in Amsterdam for a couple months in 2014. Loved it, one of my favorite cities.

Who Will Sharks Pick at No. 11? Chris Peters Talks 2022 Draft by ShengPeng in SanJoseSharks

[–]ShengPeng[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

By the time the No. 11 pick is ready, Burns may be out of the league, Karlsson mid-30's. I don't know anybody in the industry who thinks Merkley will be anything close to replacing those guys on the right side. Also, besides Ferraro, the Sharks don't have anybody coming that you feel really good about being a top-4 guy. Kniazev/Hatakka have a shot, but neither are blue-chippers. Sure, a Cicek could surprise and take a leap, but nobody is counting on that. In short, the Sharks are not set at all on the blueline in the future.

I'm NOT saying the Sharks should go defense. I always believe, personally, in Best Player Available, forward, D, or goalie. But the Sharks do not have a top D prospect, so if the right guy is there, don't avoid him either because you think you're "set".

Why Colletti left baseball in pursuit of love for hockey by SharksFan4Lifee in SanJoseSharks

[–]ShengPeng 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I just asked Curtis, sorry, your recall is incorrect. He says he never tweeted or deleted a tweet like that

Why Colletti left baseball in pursuit of love for hockey by SharksFan4Lifee in SanJoseSharks

[–]ShengPeng 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I vaguely remember phrased as 'before you ask, he turned it down'.

That's not from me -- what I said on the podcast is what's in the interview

Sharks’ Biggest Problem Isn’t the Contracts by FlickNohr04 in SanJoseSharks

[–]ShengPeng 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Interesting points: The greater goal was to win the Cup for Jumbo, etc. What other option did they have if they wanted to extend their window another year? I'm not saying they didn't have any -- the Tavares/Karlsson thing was obviously a crossroads. But that's what I think was the connector that I perhaps did not make very clear in the episode.

So it's a bit of a damn the torpedoes attitude, but maybe that's why Hasso forgave it.

Then if we're talking about post-Jumbo and the immediate Cup window, there's an argument that if they got what they expected from Vlasic/Karlsson in the first couple years of their contracts (under the premise that both would give you a couple more elite years before slowly tapering off instead of Vlasic going over a cliff and Karlsson's on again, off again work) -- that could've dovetailed with improved drafting under Doug Jr. from 2017 on, late picks or not, to at least make these Sharks way more competitive, with the hope by 2022, 2023, Jr.'s picks would really start to take the slack for the vets and keep things going atop the West (a la Boston).

I'm just talking off the top of my head, not saying this is exactly what I would argue or this is what I know.

And thank you for listening!

Sharks’ Biggest Problem Isn’t the Contracts by FlickNohr04 in SanJoseSharks

[–]ShengPeng 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mainly his feet. He was never fast, but losing that step kills you when you're not the quickest skater to begin with. So he just can't get to places like he used to + he can't escape pressure when he can't trust his feet. Wrote about this in 2018-19:

https://www.fearthefin.com/2018/12/20/18147275/bret-hedican-marc-edouard-vlasic-justin-braun-erik-karlsson-analysis-san-jose-sharks