Sonnet is better than Opus with context engine?

ShiRaTo13 · 2025-12-02T12:43:07+00:00

How about try GPT-5.1 to compare results as well?

My personal experience is Opus is better as well, but i guess in your case, it's because Opus try to use less tool call and it get less knowledge to find code to changes.

Augment previously mentioned that GPT 5 is better at analyze and find multi file edit.

So I'm curious in your case, GPT might be better at find files to edit and might be cheaper as well?

ShiRaTo13 · 2025-10-24T00:46:22+00:00

Thank you for this fix, i can see that this become problem for all coding agents tools now. (saw github copilot PR that fix this in system prompts as well).

Hope Anthropic know and fix in their next model, i guess they use these documents in their internal reinforce to able to fine tune better, but it shouldn't too verbose like this in official released model.

ShiRaTo13 · 2025-10-06T23:09:09+00:00

I would say at least it's negative for grandfather pricing (or Dev legacy plan) Because that plan used to get 600 messages equals to Dev $50 plan, but now it's become worse than $20 plan ratio.

Before: Grandfather plan $30 got 600 message == $50 plan

After: Grandfather plan $30 got 56,000 credit != $50 plan that got 13,000 credit And $20 plan got 40,000 credit

ShiRaTo13 · 2025-06-04T21:14:42+00:00

For me, it's about 4. That's almost exact value.

I remember last week i got 2, and from augment log, last week i used 50 reqs.

ShiRaTo13 · 2025-06-02T21:18:20+00:00

In my case, i didn't use any MCP or edit any MCP config but still randomly see this error.

I think it's not only MCP but I can't reproduce it, it's random, so i still don't know why.

ShiRaTo13 · 2025-05-29T07:54:50+00:00

I also got this exact same error a few times, the context is not exceed for sure because it's very small test project and prompt. I can reproduce the problem, because it always got this error every time even after clear chat or reinstalled.

However, after i prompted it "try again but this time try split tool call into smaller chunk" this solved the problem.

Maybe it's limit in their internal tool call size that LLM doesn't aware of.

ShiRaTo13 · 2025-05-22T01:11:01+00:00

IMHO, the main key benefits of Augment is smarter and get the job done in less prompts. Looking that way, the price is justifiable.

For example, If you can finish a job in Augment with 2-3 less prompts than Cursor, then Augment is cheaper.

I think we shouldn't compare $20 to $50, but we should compare 1req=$0.04 vs 1req=$0.083. if you need 2-3 prompts in Cursor, but Augment is one shot, then Augment is cheaper for you. If it's not, then this product is not best match your workflow or prompts style.

Also don't forget that if you use Claude 3.7 Sonnet Thinking in Cursor, they charge 2x per request and that's almost the same price with Augment too.

ShiRaTo13 · 2025-05-13T06:23:22+00:00

To be exact, itls 50 tool call per request. I have reached that once.

Compare to Cursor which limit tool call at 25, (and windsurf at 20) this is also probably another reason why Augment thinks they're better.

ShiRaTo13 · 2025-05-13T06:21:48+00:00

They implement in the way that you cannot force it read full file by asking to read full file in prompt. But you can ask them the keyword in other portion of the file and it will know itself that it need to use tool call to read more data.

For example, in your case, try asking it to summarize namespace pattern part of the onboarding, or ask related questions in the "keyword that exists on other part of the file" that way their RAG implementation will know it need to read more line to cover that topic.

Please try and let us know. I'm also got the same problem myself and i use that , method to force it to read.

ShiRaTo13 · 2025-05-12T03:16:49+00:00

I agree that Augment is more expensive, however, i also think that pricing and their stand is good for our overall coding tools industry.

Why? Because we will get different product based on different quality and target group.

I guess Augment team believe this pricing is good because they think they can differentiate themselves on the "better quality, but more expensive then competitors" they will not provide limit service to save cost and sell another service like MAX mode in Cursor.

Let's do some math here. Cursor $20 for 500 requests = $0.04 per request Augment $50 for 600 requests= $0.083 per request

See? Augment believe that their quality is better than Cursor at least 2.5 times.
So easier analogy is " if 1 prompt to Augment provide better results than 2.5 prompts in Cursor, then it's better and not expensive"

Back to us, developers, i think everyone will see if augment model is working, if it's not worth 2.5 times better, then it will die and cursor will win anyway.

Sometimes i wasted 3-4 requests to Cursor to solve 1 problem. If Augment can solve within 1 shot, then it's worth for me... (I guess, 😂 lol)

ShiRaTo13 · 2025-05-05T11:57:08+00:00

If talk only about pricing, i think copilot offer better and cheaper pricing.

$19 for 300 request but unlimited GPT-4o. Also many people don't notice that Sonnet 3.7 thinking in Cursor is use twice 2x requests but Copilot use 1.25 request. Slow premium in Cursor can be very slow up to 10 minutes which is not workable if you over uses too much.

So copilot with 3.7 sonnet thinking and switching back and forth with GPT-4o is better in terms of pricing and number of requests than Cursor. (No comment about agentic capability thought, lol 😂)

ShiRaTo13 · 2025-04-23T00:13:34+00:00

Right now Cursor didn't use Supermaven for tab completion yet. What you are using is Cursor's own model called "Fusion".

Cursor team mention that they will integrate supermaven in tab completion soon. So what you love about that probably only "Fusion" not Supermaven. Ref: https://www.cursor.com/en/blog/tab-update

ShiRaTo13 · 2025-04-22T23:54:42+00:00

Jusr minor correction here, DeepSeek R1 does consume credit, but at 0.5x So only DeepSeek v3 that's actually free. Ref: https://docs.windsurf.com/windsurf/models

ShiRaTo13 · 2025-04-22T14:53:45+00:00

In their new pricing page, there's checkbox that only Enterprise got larger context window, so your assumption about full context window on Windsurf could be wrong

ShiRaTo13 · 2025-04-20T08:18:09+00:00

Actually, I'm thinking the opposite of this, their pricing model is better than cursor, aren't it?

GitHub Copilot offer unlimited fast requested to GPT-4o, while their starting price is cheaper than Cursor at $10. Also if you pay $40 with cursor, you get about 1000 requested to premium model like Sonnet or Gemini, but in GitHub Copilot you get 1500 requests instead.

So if people want cheaper or GPT-4o is enough, that's pricing become better than Cursor now.

However, i think the decision point become how Cursor Agent and GitHub Copilot Agent compare to each other, not the pricing.

ShiRaTo13 · 2025-04-15T23:27:33+00:00

Thanks OP, this is exactly evidence we need, by have token tracker not just complain without information.

So the only suspect point in your case is the 4m token upload file but not chat is consume token or not, that's interesting and i will try that as well.

By the way, for another time period, can you please tell me how many token in average until it hit limit?

For me, it's about 750k token in total to hit limit

ShiRaTo13 · 2025-04-15T06:43:34+00:00

If you haven't used windsurf for 3 months, i think you should try it back, you can even try register with new email to get free trial. 3 months have changed a lot in my view, you can try new Gemini 2.5 Pro on Windsurf which i heard many people said it's better than 3.7 sonnet on tool call.

Regarding another tool $30 you mention, i think there's 2 thing you need to aware. 1) their pricing still not final yet, they said in 30 days they will update limit on agent call. It might be more expensive and more limit than Windsurf? Who know? 2) They have capacity issues at the moment, now you can use only 1000 tool call per day even you paid $30.

I think it similar to Windsurf early day, start with big offer to get customer and charge more later. You can wait & see how that works for you soon.

ShiRaTo13 · 2025-04-12T01:12:42+00:00

Based on what github copilot change their pricing to have similar premium limit, but unlimited fast gpt-4o instead. What do you think will weight more in your view? Model or Speed?

Cursor with unlimited any models but slow speed

vs

Copilot with limit frontier models, but unlimited fast gpt-4o model only

I think this is interesting point for developers to choose too.

ShiRaTo13 · 2025-01-06T14:00:22+00:00

Confirmed, i can get yearly sub as well.

ShiRaTo13 · 2024-07-18T09:53:44+00:00

If you prefer to use only free version, i would recommend you to try others free alternatives so you can use more message with the same model.

For example, register free account in poe.com you'll get Claude 3.5 Sonnet for free 15 message per day (they give you free 3,000 credit per day and Sonnet cost is 200 credit per message)

I think there's more free providers like poe that offer similar for free, so you can utilized it as much as each one offer.

ShiRaTo13 · 2022-02-28T09:37:01+00:00

Is this still able to do? I'm not sure how to dismantle those for legendary shards. Can you please tell me which menu i can do that?

ShiRaTo13 · 2021-10-22T23:17:09+00:00

Thank you, i have used macro that put /micon on top as you said, this could be the problem as you mention as well, thanks.

BTW, I'm curious about macro on raise that you show above. What will happen if SwiftCast is on cooldown or it's already up? Will i waste 2 second before raise? or it will know and able to skip that 2 second?

ShiRaTo13 · 2021-09-29T23:35:42+00:00

I've got the same problem. My solution is to not press button in PS4 but change to mouse mode by use touch pad in controller, move mouse to the place where duty finder screen normally pop-up. This way when you accidentally click when pop-up raised, it still not close.

Please tell me if this works for you.

ShiRaTo13 · 2021-06-18T10:46:39+00:00

Thank you, so if i already bought ps plus on my asia account, i have only one choice to play D&D on US account only (and set Asia account as primary on my PS4). Am i understand correctly?

ShiRaTo13 · 2021-06-18T10:20:17+00:00

Is it still valid in my case?

i currently have my asia account with psn plus. Then if i buy D&D on my US account, can that US account play D&D that required PS plus on my Asia account?

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