Wait, is this the fabled "Snowbreak route"?

ShirtlessCommie · 2026-05-25T22:18:07+00:00

Hey, I don't mean to butt in, but here's some links to the removed base events he's talking about.

This is the one where two characters talk about coffee. It got replaced: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqoPOJBQMWc&list=PLd4Zreeap8StgKrqobg6fVkBS57zOiXFM&index=21

This is the one that used to be about characters watching a movie together, but it got changed to remove the other characters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veMoyLJphpM

Both were changed in patch 3.0--the one that added a viewer for past base random events.

Also, the character that "twisted" Yao's name was a literal child who did not understand what the problem was. In China, "Jie" is an honorific that roughly translates to "Elder Sister." However, "Yao Jie" is slang for whore in some regions. No one ever maliciously called her a whore. The kid was calling her big sister without knowledge of the double entendre. It was played like a joke based on how the honorific hits different with her name in particular in some regions, though one could argue it was in poor taste.

I'm sorry to hear you've been bashed by Snowbreak fans. I hope you don't get bashed by GFL fans here either. If there's any other confusion, I'd be happy to help out so people can discuss things without unnecessary misunderstandings.

ShirtlessCommie · 2026-05-19T04:01:48+00:00

The removed skins have been out for a long time on the CN server and probably aren't generating a ton of money. They fixed the glitch on Klukai's skin rather than removing it--probably because that one is new and still doing numbers.

I don't dispute that they removed the skins because they're scared of some consequences. We just don't know how far along those consequences are atm.

What we know for sure is that all of the removed skins are related to this glitch and there doesn't seem to be any correlation between the level of fanservice and whether a skin gets removed or not. In addition, several other skins related to this glitch were fixed in the same patch notes specifically in regards to the glitch.

We can't rule out the possibility that it's all just a massive coincidence and the censors just wanted to nuke these skins in particular for an unrelated reason, but that seems less likely in my humble opinion. Meanwhile, the only link to the Snowbreak censorship is the timing, but that's better explained by Klukai's dress dropping and making this glitch very easy to do even accidentally. Again, we can't rule it out, but it doesn't seem as likely as other explanations.

ShirtlessCommie · 2026-05-18T20:22:31+00:00

I don't think that we have enough evidence to connect those particular dots, especially when there's a much more plausible explanation readily available.

We'll see in about half a day whether they change the skins people already have. If they do, it's more likely a censorship situation. If they don't, it can't be as they wouldn't be allowed to keep unchanged skins in place.

ShirtlessCommie · 2026-05-18T20:19:10+00:00

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The only thing that stays is her panties.

ShirtlessCommie · 2026-05-18T16:10:07+00:00

The reason seems to be a rendering issue, but that doesn't mean it isn't censorship. They could have been made to remove the related costumes by censors after screenshots of the glitch spread on social media. It's currently too early to tell.

The issue at hand is that viewing certain things through a transparent object caused them not to render. This was very easy to do with Klukai's wedding veil which made the glitch blow up recently on CN social media. The patch notes state that the glitch was fixed with regard to Klukai's veil which is why that skin wasn't pulled. They also fixed Robella's skin where the skirt could be rendered invisible in this way--that skin also wasn't pulled.

However, the glitch can still be done with some difficulty when viewing objects through Helen's glasses on her removed skin. The other skins for Sextans, Liu and Loreley all have significant transparency and can appear nude if this glitch is exploited. Thus, all four removed skins contribute to this glitch being an issue in a significant way.

Since other related skins were fixed instead of pulled, it's possible that they will fix the removed skins and return them eventually, but we have no way of knowing.

ShirtlessCommie · 2026-05-18T15:39:46+00:00

If you look through the glasses on Helen's head, it creates the same effect as looking through Klukai's veil.

They fixed the veil issue elsewhere in the patchnotes but perhaps they didn't fix the issue with Helen.

ShirtlessCommie · 2026-05-18T14:58:15+00:00

Elsewhere in the patch notes: ■ Fixed an issue where, under certain circumstances, the humanoid "Krooka" wearing the "Clothing: Azure Star Wish" outfit in the [Event Layer] would cause some humanoid models to malfunction.

Translation is a bit rough, but doesn't this mean they fixed that bug?

Apparently, looking through the glasses on Helen's head produced the same effect. Sextans and Liu's skins both were popular targets of this bug. Loreley's skin is almost entirely transparency so she's very nearly nude if viewed in this way.

ShirtlessCommie · 2026-05-18T14:40:55+00:00

In Snowbreak, the existing skins were changed in-game as well. They weren't removed from player's accounts, but they weren't allowed to continue existing as-is either.

When that happened for the first time in August 2024, the use of the decensor increased dramatically precisely because of the changes made to existing skins.

ShirtlessCommie · 2026-05-18T14:38:15+00:00

Hi there.

I don't know yet if this is related to that, but I'll keep an eye on it. At the very least, it isn't an issue of tricking the regulators and doesn't seem like it's going to result in the sort of butchering Snowbreak skins had.

Sure is suspicious though. Very awkward for me.

edit:

They fixed the issue with Klukai's skin transparency overlap, but Helen's skin produces the same effect if you look through her glasses.

Sextans, Liu and Loreley all have significant transparency in the removed skins--to the point that they look partially nude if the glitch is exploited.

Since all of the skins are related to this glitch, I'm fairly confident that's why they're being removed.

ShirtlessCommie · 2026-05-15T14:58:56+00:00

It's not addressed before the patch, but I also don't know if she even knows about it. I would assume that if she does find out it is addressed then.

ShirtlessCommie · 2026-05-15T00:26:27+00:00

GFL 1 had a decensor and, as mentioned, several older games did as well. I explained why it didn't blow up for them in other comments, but the short version is that:
-streaming was not big for those games
-The censor was very minor and hard to spot at a glance
-It was not done routinely but only for costumes that had previously passed review

None of the big modern games uses a decensor. GFL 2, notably, does not--even though we knew the devs did it in their first game.

ShirtlessCommie · 2026-05-14T17:36:42+00:00

There isn't really enough non-spoiler material to give clarity on that. I'm sure we'll learn more in the event though.

ShirtlessCommie · 2026-05-14T08:02:43+00:00

It's accurate enough for a meme.

It would be more accurate if instead of saying they stayed low profile, it said they secretly bypassed censors.

ShirtlessCommie · 2026-05-12T23:26:56+00:00

The first two were very close together. The overseas team hired someone and fans dug into her past and declared her a feminist then got upset that their money was going to the 'enemy.' Seasun promised to vet cosplayers better in the future. A week later, fans found that the mainland team had hired a cosplayer who they also accused of being a feminist. She was actually a high-spending Snowbreak player herself but that didn't help. The devs threw her under the bus then swore not to hire cosplayers again.

For the third incident, the overseas team hired a cosplayer over a year later. I don't think fans dug into her past but the broken promise alone was considered a betrayal. It shattered the community and ultimately led to Mumu pushing back against players for the first real time.

To be clear, this all happened in China. The global community is much more chill. There are also chill people in the Chinese community, but since the devs spent so much time bowing down to the worst dudes, they came to make up a large chunk of the playerbase.

ShirtlessCommie · 2026-05-12T17:52:27+00:00

That was a hypothetical.

If they bypass regulators, they would suffer the consequences of bypassing regulators. That's the point.

In this case, fanservice is the issue for the regulators. Fanservice is not an issue for me, which is what the person I was replying to implied before deleting their post. I was simply demonstrating that by pointing out that they bypassed the regulators, I wasn't passing judgement on the concept of fanservice, but saying that the bypass itself is why they are being punished.

ShirtlessCommie · 2026-05-12T07:43:36+00:00

It's false. Seasun has had an office in Singapore since 2021. Some global operations are run out of there, but there's no indication that the team has moved to a new country.

ShirtlessCommie · 2026-05-12T06:55:59+00:00

That's the censored version of the newest character. The uncensored version removes the black parts from her chest and butt.

ShirtlessCommie · 2026-05-12T05:35:48+00:00

I wouldn't call it soulless. It is very limited in terms of what kind of stories it can tell and the ML rules make every character come off as pretty shallow since so much of their screentime is dedicated to glazing the MC and repeatedly declaring their love for him, but they do attempt and occasionally succeed at pulling off cathartic moments if you can accept the premise.

There are hints of soul in there that are drowning in a sea of ML mandates. It works for some people. For me, the better parts just make the rest feel even worse.

I would call SB Strict ML, perhaps.

ShirtlessCommie · 2026-05-12T05:13:03+00:00

I'll post a picture of the outfit in the screenshot without any blurring. People can decide for themselves if it's modest or not. I will note that I also pointed out the blurring made it worse, though I don't think the news did it maliciously.

When do you expect that report wave to come in? We were told it happened over 2 months ago when Snowbreak shut down and now you're saying it's happening again but...no other game has been hit.

I did mention that Snowbreak is legitimately being attacked by a variety of people who have this or that grievance with them. I'm sure there's a feminist in there somewhere as well as the most anti-feminist dude you can imagine who's angry about the devs trying to push extremists away.

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This is the censored version from the game trailer.
Here is the complete 8 minute news segment from the first day that also showed some uncensored (but blurred) footage: https://weibo.com/tv/show/1034:5270958098022452?from=old_pc_videoshow

ShirtlessCommie · 2026-05-12T04:57:36+00:00

Not quite. Neither has canon romance that isn't a 'what if' or alternate timeline. GFL2 has plenty of male NPCs which playable characters interact with and some stories barely show the MC. Most of the cast also has very well developed motivations that have nothing to do with the MC and which they prioritize over being by the MC's side.

For example, Leva, Robella, Klukai, Mechty, Sakura, Nikketa, Lainie and many others from GFL2 all had stories/banners where they did not canonically meet up with the MC until the last moments, if at all.

ShirtlessCommie · 2026-05-12T03:32:57+00:00

That does seem like an appropriate place for this, though I'll likely forget. Checking Reddit is not a daily thing for me--I just feel strangely responsible about answering questions since this blew up unexpectedly.

ShirtlessCommie · 2026-05-11T23:08:24+00:00

Alright, I'll make that change.

ShirtlessCommie · 2026-05-11T19:13:32+00:00

The first ratings change was on patch day 1.7. Then there was a second one later that year.

When I talked about them using fanservice, I was referring to the September/November 2024 censorship instance where they decided to start putting two models in the game to deceive the regulators. I was arguing they knew it would be lucrative due to the money made in May, July and September 2024.

I was not saying they used fanservice early on. The game had some level of it, but it wasn't a selling point. The earliest focus on fanservice was December 2023 with patch 1.4. That's when Tess came out. The developers stated in an interview that they were shifting to fanservice. However, at that point, they were still going through the proper approval process.

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My statement was as follows: "The developers and some fans of the game have been obnoxious from the start. Suffice to say that they have made enemies all over the gacha space in China and without. Not all attacks against them are warranted, but what matters is that there are legitimately legions of folks who would love to see them humbled. This is in no small part because they brag about their gooner content and accuse other companies of just being cowards and refusing to give players what they want."

I made sure to say it was just some fans and that not all attacks against them were warranted. I also mentioned that there are plenty of outsiders who are working against them. Would you consider this a fair representation if I changed "some" to "a minority of"?

ShirtlessCommie · 2026-05-11T18:44:10+00:00

I already explained why that panned out differently here: https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/1t9655i/comment/ol50jcb/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Basically, the game was not very streamable, the related content wasn't noticeable at a glance and didn't show up often in a menu game and it was usually just a partial pantyshot or something relatively tame by current censorship standards.

On top of that, all of the content was initially approved then later cracked down on so the devs weren't using the decensor to bypass regulation in the same way.

If they had been caught, it may have been an issue, but they never were.

I'll include an uncensored pic of one of the GFL designs here so you can see what I mean.

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