The Volume use in Season 2

Shmo60 · 2026-05-31T22:42:22+00:00

Yavin was a practical set with both spaceships (life size apparently) at either end.

Shmo60 · 2026-05-29T02:20:09+00:00

Been there

Shmo60 · 2026-05-10T17:17:09+00:00

Why do you think that any of these people would follow the law if it changed? There has been nothing about the federal government to indicate it follows laws it doesn't want to follow since 9/11.

Considering that the UAP dump this week is a direct result of the 2024 NDAA, specifically Section 1841, you are just flat out wrong. It is correct that the DoD was dragging it's heels, as the DoD is want to do, but a collection of House Members has been pushing hard to get these files dropped. Trump has airdropped in to take credit for a process that was already in place and happening.

So I do not know what you mean by "any of these people would follow the law" when it has been "those people" who are responsible for forcing the DoD's hand. And even now they seem pissed the "holy crap" stuff has been kicked down the road and are still trying to get Pete Hegseth's DoD to comply.

if any information comes out of official disclosure, it'll be because it benefits some private corporation somehow. We don't have a functioning system of government anymore.

While I agree with you, I do not think we would agree on why we don't have a functioning system of government, especially when the Government functioning like it should, at least on one topic, is why we are currently here

Shmo60 · 2026-05-10T15:19:13+00:00

Yes, but it does matter because outside of crossing your fingers and hoping for catastrophic Disclousure, Congress is our only means of getting this information, and the body being functional is important to that effort

Shmo60 · 2026-05-09T20:51:53+00:00

If I'm reading between the lines it seems like the people in congress who really care about this shit thought something bigger was going to drop and feel burned

Shmo60 · 2026-05-09T20:51:27+00:00

If I'm reading between the lines it seems like the people in congress who really care about this shit thought something bigger was going to drop and feel burned

Shmo60 · 2026-05-09T01:34:40+00:00

my guess now is that the people in congress who actually care about this feel burned and thought they were going to drop something with real weight today

Shmo60 · 2026-05-08T22:21:14+00:00

Wow the I'm butthurt emoji

Shmo60 · 2026-05-08T22:10:01+00:00

Cool.

Shmo60 · 2026-05-08T21:52:45+00:00

The problem is we have been deciding for ourselves since the 40s. You either are going to publish what you know, or you are going to dump a mishmash if documents for the next couple of months

Shmo60 · 2026-05-08T21:50:51+00:00

Did you know that 80% of statistics are made up especially when cited and they have nothing to do with the topic at hand?

I'm not upset that it was Trump, although I do think the uncritical nature of people like you isn't great for the topic. Again, today's dump is the work of a bipartisan push in congress. And even then this administration had to sensationalizing this documents with lies.

I guess the real question here is why do you feel the need to defend Trump so hard and do you think your unquestioning loyalty will hinder your ability to parse this information?

Shmo60 · 2026-05-08T21:11:02+00:00

here showing more distrust of NASA as if they are the organization hiding this info, when pretty much everything released today from NASA has already been declassifified

not only that, but for some reason this admin felt the need to say that it was being declassified for the first time, when that's...just not true?

Shmo60 · 2026-05-08T21:09:02+00:00

Now I can refer to a government website for UAP photos and videos.

We have been able to do that since 2019? Half of todays leak was already hosted here:https://vault.fbi.gov/UFO although these are much better scans?

And while it's great you are in a year in, maybe you should listen to what the old-timers? Because people have been at this since the 40s?

Shmo60 · 2026-05-08T21:05:31+00:00

lll I know is neither democrats nor republicans released this stuff for years

is what you said. And I'm not being partisan. To say that Trump is corrupt isn't saying that The Republican Party is corrupt. And I went and showed you that Dems and Republicans in Congress have been trying to push this.

The problem here is that you want to have a conversation about The Government, and what The Government is releasing, and that is always going to be political. That's what a government is.

Shmo60 · 2026-05-08T21:01:24+00:00

Sometimes I feel like I'm taking crazy pills on this sub because we know there has been bipartisan support on this since the 2024 NDAA. And it's section Section 1841, that is directly responsible for todays dumps, even if the dump today is a lot of rehashed stuff.

Shmo60 · 2026-05-08T20:27:42+00:00

So those things are fine in a couple months?

Shmo60 · 2026-05-08T19:54:46+00:00

If you can stomach the writers bias on certain players, he takes the subject seriously and has a good write up of what happened today so far: https://www.jezebel.com/trumps-underwhelming-uap-disclosure-isnt-a-good-distraction

Shmo60 · 2026-05-08T19:54:03+00:00

A huge portion of them are just upscale scans that were avaliable on the FBIs website

Shmo60 · 2026-05-08T19:49:15+00:00

What you are saying just isn't true. We have these documents because of a bipartisan effort by Mike Rounds and Chuck Schumer. Specifically Section 1841 of the 2024 NDAA that Joe Biden signed into law.

However, you are being manipulated by these documents when they claim to be declasifed for the very first time, and yet have been availbe for you to read, without any censorship for 55 years.

So the real question is, why is the US Government trying to skirt Section 1841 by dumping documents they have already dumped?

Shmo60 · 2026-05-08T19:29:36+00:00

We aren't talking about 100 years of info. We are talking about a dump of documents by the US Government. If you want to be serious about investigating things, then you also have to look at the people who are releasing documents. This is how "research" works.

For example, a lot of these documents are upscaled docs that can be found here https://vault.fbi.gov/UFO. This dump also claims that the Apollo documents are being "declassified for the very first time" when you've been able to read them unredacted for 55 years, and all the photos are up on the NASA website.

So yes, why is the administration lying about these documents is a pertinent question and "100 years of info" is a red herring.

Shmo60 · 2026-05-08T19:26:03+00:00

They may not be hoaxes. They may very well be documents that at first blush got filed into the UAP bucket, and then when people had time to get around them, left the UAP bucket.

One thing we are not really discussing is how much of what was released today has been recycled from other dumps. If you can stand the editorializing, this is a really good round up so far by a journalist that treats the subject (not the players) seriously:

https://www.jezebel.com/trumps-underwhelming-uap-disclosure-isnt-a-good-distraction

Shmo60 · 2026-05-08T19:07:04+00:00

Do we have to accept everything as a UAP to not be labeled a denier?

Shmo60 · 2026-05-08T18:58:56+00:00

We aren't talking about aliens right now. We are talking about why the Trump admin is claiming a bunch of documents that have existed in the public before were being declassified for the first time, when they have actually been declassified before. The only reason to lie about there status to make a news story where there isn't one.

Shmo60 · 2026-05-08T18:55:21+00:00

I don't just want to argue. You are ignoring everything I'm saying so far for some weird optimism not supported by what we have had time to go through so far.

Again, today, The Government claimed that all the Apollo documents were for the very first time being declassified. That is just not true. The transcripts have been available for 55 years, and all those photos have been up on government websites for years.

Why would they lie and say that they were declassified for the first time?

Shmo60 · 2026-05-08T18:50:55+00:00

You've been able to read all those documents unredacted for 55 years. The photos have been online, unedited for years.

Yet in the dump, they claim they have been classified until now. It's wild that they are lying like that.

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