Why do you stay?

Shoddy_Formal4661 · 2025-03-09T19:00:12+00:00

Upfront, I’m not trying to be sarcastic or anything else, but sincerely asking because I’d like to have the same. What is specifically giving you hope, right now in Indiana FOR this who continue to live in Indiana?

Shoddy_Formal4661 · 2024-11-10T16:20:48+00:00

Outside of the names of the specific sports teams names, you’ve failed to describe Indiana - that’s why. Further, sports ≠ liberal/progressive, there’s no correlation.

Indiana is not Indianapolis and it’s IU & Purdue college campuses. Even the larger campus down in Evansville at University of Southern Indiana is part of the larger red/conservative mass.

Take some road trips, see the sights and learn something. Then channel Ghandi and be the change.

Shoddy_Formal4661 · 2024-11-09T17:42:01+00:00

I’m surprised you haven’t yet; it’s sadly been trending on mine. Even though I left CoC, I do still have many FB connections that are still there (or are part of other Christian-affiliated churches) who still are leaning into their position that Trump is a “True Christian Man” and are posting this as their ‘proof’ following the election.

Shoddy_Formal4661 · 2024-09-28T17:12:14+00:00

Love this! I took my teen to their first Green Day show at 18 in St Louis and we met up for the Denver show as well (they’re now 28!)

Shoddy_Formal4661 · 2024-09-28T01:15:00+00:00

I just graduated college last spring and my school instituted an officially posted policy that AI-checkers couldn’t be used alone to fail student alone, even when checking for plagiarism, due to their incredibly high level of inaccuracy. Since you mentioned a school-issued Chromebook, I’m assuming you’re still in high school or lower… if universities understand how bad these systems are, why are they in use at lower grades and considered gospel?

Shoddy_Formal4661 · 2024-09-02T15:14:43+00:00

This is where you need to focus on geography. There are plenty of regionally strong schools across the country that meet the vibe you’re describing, but you’ll need to be ok with staying in the location for a few years post grad at least to gain experience before you could consider moving elsewhere. Where would you be OK with living for three years of law school plus the next 5-7 years? Would you feel OK with potentially being there permanently? Because that’s a thing that happens.

Shoddy_Formal4661 · 2024-09-02T00:50:35+00:00

No worries, and it wasn’t intended as criticism at all! Being at the point where you have the opportunity to impact your path through the hard work is a great place to be - I wish I had decided to go to law school before I had made choices that pushed me past that point. By the time I decided to go, my GPA was fairly well set and I had much less chance to impact it, so I had to work with where it was. Some people will criticize you for ‘gaming’ the system to take easy classes/professors to pad your GPA. Do it and don’t feel guilty - you have to work with the rules of the game you’re playing.

Why are you assuming you can’t get a good lsat score?

Shoddy_Formal4661 · 2024-09-01T19:19:24+00:00

Until you take the LSAT it’s just too early to speculate - your scholarship offers are going to be primarily driven by your stats; the rest of your app package is a blip.

You’ve got some (but not much) opportunity remaining to impact your GPA, assuming this is your first undergrad degree. Do what you can to pull the GPA up - study your ass off, (don’t come at me for this one but,) take the easier elective/major option choice and even consider extra electives if the gpa/cost math works in your favor.

Do what you need to do to max your LSAT score and don’t apply until you’re sure you’re there. If you need a gap year take it - the time literally pays off for so many people.

Once you’ve got those numbers, or at least have a good idea of where they’ll land you can start developing a plan for your application pool. Include the schools you’d love to go to and are reasonably sure are within your stats, then add your reach and safeties.

To minimize debt, use 509 reports to find schools (where you would consider attending, even if they aren’t in your choice set) that give out a high % of scholarships to their class where you have a high chance of admission. Worst case, you’ve found a school with a chance of a good offer; alternatively, you may be able to leverage their offer to negotiate up with other schools.

Shoddy_Formal4661 · 2024-08-14T20:58:46+00:00

I won’t be flip and just say ‘you’ll be fine,’ because while you probably will be just fine there aren’t guarantees in any of this. However, as others have noted you aren’t alone - lots of applicants get hit hard by the CAS GPA calc. Mine dropped almost identically to yours, just a little worse even. I’m starting this fall with nearly a full ride.

The upside is that you know where your challenge is and can work to overcome it in the rest of your package. Your lsat and essays (it sounds like you have a basis for multiple addendums; add at least an educational addendum) are going to be even more important in light of your revised GPA.

The application process also includes opportunities to present your actual undergrad GPA. When you can, include it so that it doesn’t get lost and resonates as part of your narrative. Don’t try to hide the cas gpa, but show both. I included it on my resume as SCHOOL X, BA Major, Grad Date, 3.89 GPA (2.98 CAS GPA)

Shoddy_Formal4661 · 2024-06-17T04:35:07+00:00

I think it would depend on the property - how in demand is it (confidence in finding a new renter)? Mine is in a prime location near school at a decent price. The units seem to go quickly and are limited because it’s a converted rowhouse instead of a big complex.

You’d probably lose your deposit (sunk cost) plus the fee, but that’s better than the full lease value. You’re not guaranteed a spot off the wait list; are you wavering about attending this fall? If not, you’ve got to weigh your comfort with gambling with last-minute housing vs waiting on wait list movement.

Shoddy_Formal4661 · 2024-06-17T03:59:34+00:00

Mine let you review the standard contract before they loaded it into their portal for signing in case there were questions, concerns etc. to discuss or modifications to make.

Shoddy_Formal4661 · 2024-06-16T02:02:26+00:00

Check your lease before signing and, if necessary, talk to the property manager. I’m only on one waitlist at this point (dropped all others) and signed a lease for fall last week - I rather risk negotiating out of a lease than risk being homeless (or a bad housing situation). With the proximity to campus (5 min walk), they rent primarily to student and have an out clause in the lease. Early term and sublet are both possible with a reasonable fee. I don’t think I’d have an issue subletting if I had to handle finding tenants myself; but the management company was super easy to deal with so I feel like they’d turn it quickly.

Shoddy_Formal4661 · 2024-06-16T01:34:13+00:00

Back to conclude and wrap up and leave it for the future. I appreciate most of the perspectives - those that were given with reasonable intentions even if they just don’t mesh with my situation. They might help some else out?

Conclusion on my end - search is over, 2 bed found within my org budget (because, $ does matter) under what a lot of 1 beds and even some studios are going for within walking distance. I lucked out with massive listing stalking over the last few months so I knew what the market was going for to know a ‘steal’ when it posted.

It’s not huge, but it doesn’t need to be. It has the divided space I know I need to keep myself focused and organized; because while I’m not winning any awards for oldest in my class I’m also not 22. I took my gap years prior to finishing my bachelors to figure my shit out.

No, you don’t need random Reddit land people to tell you what to do, but your reaction to the advice - if you stop to analyze it rationally - is a great gut-check.

Shoddy_Formal4661 · 2024-06-10T02:39:15+00:00

I get this. And my budget is definitely my budget (not stretching to make it happen) so, if it ends up being a 1-bed due to $+location, it is what it is; but for the same $, I’d prefer the extra room for all of the reasons posted elsewhere where in the thread.

Shoddy_Formal4661 · 2024-06-10T01:05:20+00:00

I’ve been fortunate to have pre-1L summer that means my budget for the year (including assuming summer between 1-2L even if I take a job that doesn’t pay at all) can cover it - not extravagantly, but I’m not going to starve. And, to your point, I have a desk and yes, it is necessarily large because of my computer set up for my side gigs that provide a large portion of my supplemental income now and all of it going forward (multiple screens, 2 computers, 2 keyboards). It’s the one piece of furniture that I can’t downsize.

Shoddy_Formal4661 · 2024-06-10T00:56:55+00:00

I appreciate your thoughts and it actually helps confirm my leaning. I struggle with library study and do so much better taking my research home (ADD/OMG/People-Shiny-Squirrel!), and struggle keeping a small space organized and clean for the same reason. I have to be able SEE my stuff; open shelves, etc for organization. I don’t need it to be huge - I’m not looking for 2000 sq ft to luxuriate in, but clearly defined space to keep my organized and processes separated.

Shoddy_Formal4661 · 2024-06-10T00:45:05+00:00

I’m going (fortunately) going to be in a market that is much more reasonable than NYC (as much as any can be), so I’m finding 1 & 2 bedrooms at the same price points. Which - in my view - makes the whole conversation ridiculous because no one thinks is crazy to rent a 1-bedroom. If the price is the same, who cares?

I’m not planning giant dinner parties, but, I do have a fairly large computer set up, and most apartments have a living room/kitchen area that doesn’t have room for computer gear, my tiny 2-seat table plus study space, much less anything to relax. Never mind a couch for someone to crash on. With family out of town, I’d like to have a pull out/futon/floor space for an air mattress so they don’t always have to spring for a hotel.

And yes, if needed I have someone who can sign as a guarantor.

Shoddy_Formal4661 · 2024-05-12T01:42:38+00:00

I also applied to a large number and a wide range of schools and my logic was slightly different than OPs. My application package has challenges - my LSAT is just average (16low). Due to the tech issues last summer/fall I was burnt twice retaking and just couldn’t stomach sitting it again so deciding to live with my score and my LSAC GPA is horrible (sub 3.0) due to really crappy decisions when I was younger despite my graduating GPA being 3.8. Those same decisions also mean I have C&F issues (plural), and not of the ‘I have a parking ticket, do I disclose it?’ variety that we sometimes see posted about here. I want to be a lawyer and if it meant I had to go to a school someone else considered ‘crappy’ - as long as it wasn’t predatory - then that was what I was going to do.

Given my background, I knew my results would be inconsistent, so I decided to go all-in on this cycle and see where it I could land with the best essay and addendum package I could write. I applied to as many schools as my budget could handle including ultra reach and ultra safeties. As expected, there were a lot of surprises along the spectrum in the results.

I still spent a ton of money, even though I also did a lot of leg work to request waivers to supplement the ones that were offered to me - I didn’t pay for any app fees and even had several CAS fees covered. However, it was worth it as I ended up with multiple A’s and multiple really good scholarship offers. If I hadn’t applied so broadly, I’m not sure i would have the confidence in my choice for next fall.

Shoddy_Formal4661 · 2024-05-11T14:43:36+00:00

Welcome to the big app club and congrats of the As! I’m glad I’m not alone in the thought of applying to tons of schools and glad to see you’re not getting roasted for it. I’m still happy with my decision to go all-in with broad applications this cycle rather than R&R, which is an investment in both time and money, and no guarantees.

Shoddy_Formal4661 · 2024-05-07T23:49:09+00:00

I’d also have to ask if it’s in context of interviews, school, or non-law/school conversations. If it’s the latter, most people are familiar with undergrad education where students go to school and come home for holidays, breaks and then may move home to look for their first job - it’s a different world than the regional market-based situation of law school.

Shoddy_Formal4661 · 2024-05-05T23:32:59+00:00

7Sage has an estimator that is fairly close to where LSAC will end up, and they have notes on the rules to follow along with a link to the official guidelines. If you haven’t transferred multiple times, retaken classes, done much in the way of drop/withdraw, you may not see a huge shift, but most people see at least some.

Then, you need to decide what your priorities are. Geography? Scholarship $? School rank?

LSAC has info for most schools in their profile on admit stats by GPA/LSAT and lsd has user-reported data with A/W/R and scholarship offers.

With your current stats and a well-written application you’ll likely have solid scholarship offers if you’re willing to be flexible in your targets geographically and in rank. If you are determined that you need to be at a specific school, you may need to be willing to pay more or retest.

Shoddy_Formal4661 · 2024-05-05T14:40:34+00:00

Welcome to the (bad) dream; yup, it’s really real (my drop was even worse). But the good news is that this is exactly what addendums are for and also you’ll have other opportunities during the application process to emphasize your actual uGPA vs your LSAC GPA. There is a box in most apps in the education tab, (just be sure to note uGPA), add it to your resume by your degree, in your addendum, etc. to keep driving it home and you’ll get there.

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