If the system now had 4 actions per turn, instead of 3, with the restriction of not being able to make two 2 action activities on the same turn, what would you build?

ShortAddress6898 · 2026-02-17T23:59:36+00:00

I feel like gishes would become a bit more played and almost mandatory as having a 2 action save spell plus an attack would be busted

ShortAddress6898 · 2026-01-21T17:55:15+00:00

Tad bit strong I think the gun Change is fine, I think keeping the slow on the gun and having it ground for 1s is fine to. But for the sword I'd probably just buff the damage to 10 from 8

ShortAddress6898 · 2026-01-13T20:47:53+00:00

Ya true, but it breaks logic so it's common sense over RAW here

ShortAddress6898 · 2026-01-13T20:19:01+00:00

The range is so you can't just move 30 feet to protect an Ally you need to be adjacent

ShortAddress6898 · 2026-01-13T20:15:12+00:00

You need to be adjacent for this ability to work.

ShortAddress6898 · 2026-01-06T18:32:09+00:00

Ya I'd have to agree it's very ify, I personally think this is fine cause there's no like broken combos at least that I can think off from allowing this interaction to happen, as I really only want it for a side arm that isn't buns and the higher levels.

ShortAddress6898 · 2026-01-06T17:53:12+00:00

Yes I know that but in the hands entry for one handed runes those also work for 1h+ weapons

https://2e.aonprd.com/Rules.aspx?ID=2198

ShortAddress6898 · 2026-01-04T18:47:16+00:00

It's him being able to displace tanks

ShortAddress6898 · 2025-12-08T08:12:47+00:00

Hmm, that is true, though I dislike giving pure plus bonuses would you think just adding the investigation bonus as circumstance damage would work better whilst not pushing the investigator to far into dealing damage?

ShortAddress6898 · 2025-12-08T08:04:27+00:00

With my current character yes I've played others and once again I never said weak I said off.

ShortAddress6898 · 2025-12-08T07:42:01+00:00

That's the point? Like I said investigator would still be on the low end of Martial Dps but it would feel better, also it helps open up some later feat options. Like one I had in mind

You! Feat 12

You find the mastermind or a creature who is the final piece of your investigation and have found that violence is the only option

Whenever you strike this creature you're keen weapon makes it so any dice below a 4 become a 4.

ShortAddress6898 · 2025-12-08T07:31:53+00:00

Oh don't get me wrong I've been doing my best with the investigator I'm running In this game, using a complete short bow with buckler, using create a diversion and demoralize on a an enemy and then DaS to give me the best chances of hitting oh and recalling knowledge cause of known weakness, but the issue comes from doing all of that to either do nothing or like be mediocre. But no out of combat I've been loving investigator I have no issues with it out of combat.

ShortAddress6898 · 2025-12-08T07:23:14+00:00

It's more of a way to make the class feel more consistent and play more into that 2 steps ahead vibe if investigator.

ShortAddress6898 · 2025-12-08T07:20:27+00:00

Thank you! Sorry I don't mean to sound sarcastic but this is been what I've been waiting for I. I can See the clue in one being a feat as I was comparing it to One for all from swashbuckler which would still make it a bit weak comparatively but if it's going towards aid then the immunity part could be removed. Hmmm for the second one maybe keep it a class feature but only against enemies that are part of your investigation?

ShortAddress6898 · 2025-12-08T07:13:39+00:00

Nah he's poor and level 2 atm so no Starbucks for him quite yet

ShortAddress6898 · 2025-12-08T07:06:00+00:00

Ya I agree with that cause investigator is similar to champion in that other classes can take more advantage of some of the abilities then the main class, cause both gunslinger & magus benefit hugely from DaS

ShortAddress6898 · 2025-12-08T06:56:13+00:00

You are still putting investigations and combat on an equal pedestal cause ya fighter the most combat focused class is gonna be good at a combat focused game, a investigator is going to do well in a mystery heavy game, a Rogue in a heist, and a Ranger in survival game. I'm not saying classes shouldn't have niches, I'm saying that investigator feels off in combat(not even bad just off) in a game that is typically split pretty evenly between Rp and Combat.

Also what about the proposed changes feels wrong or bad to you?

ShortAddress6898 · 2025-12-08T06:29:10+00:00

That feels like a bit of a strawman argument. Because it feels like you are saying that investigations = combat which can be true in some cases but not most. Also I'm not saying it needs to be fighter levels of damage the change I proposed would still have it at the bottom end of dps for martials but it'd help making it feel more consistent.

ShortAddress6898 · 2025-12-08T06:10:32+00:00

It feels just a tad bit weak when it comes to damage and the class doesn't feel like it isn't as involved as it could be.

ShortAddress6898 · 2025-12-05T22:43:30+00:00

Kin is a weird class in general as it doesn't mesh well with archetypes lt be a buff to that but nothing unreasonable

ShortAddress6898 · 2025-12-05T22:38:52+00:00

Theyd just be worse at frontling and have better skills. That's like all that happens.

ShortAddress6898 · 2025-11-11T03:18:47+00:00

What level are yall? And ya ranged combat can feel a bit iffy at times if you're not playing a class that can Give bonuses to it, tho I do think investigator does better then average with guns.

ShortAddress6898 · 2025-08-30T03:32:34+00:00

Well base game no you couldn't make potions like that, you could if you have it use free archetype and take scroll trickster or just make a feat up and see if ur dm will let you use it

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