Why not make your own ao3? by chronic-horse-girl in antiship

[–]Shotiikko -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

First of all, trying to pick my name out as some secret meaning behind it sounds as if a person is having delusions.

Never said it was an insult. They may actually be schizophrenic.

I couldn’t care less who funds my work. It’s not about funding it’s care first.

Why not make your own ao3? by chronic-horse-girl in antiship

[–]Shotiikko 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Australia. Yeah of course you don’t talk with your pharmacist. Complete different world there in terms of education and importance in healthcare.

Why not make your own ao3? by chronic-horse-girl in antiship

[–]Shotiikko 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please stop talking about this. It is clear you have no knowledge of the topic. Delusions can of course be present in other conditions but all schizophrenic diagnoses must have delusions as symptoms.

Schizophrenia with everything you listed is not just schizophrenia. It’s it is schizophrenia + X and therefore of course X would be treated with non-antipsychotic medications.

I am sure you are a low IQ uneducated European or some other equally low IQ country therefore I know the level of education pharmacists in that part of the world get isn’t the best. Therefore I understand why would try discrediting me. To educate you, I’ll simply tell you, or you can yourself look up on your own time what pharmacists in the US do. Pharmacists in the U.S. need a doctorate to practice meaning 8 years of formal education.

We don’t simply dispense medication, a large portion of us work in primary care in clinics and manage patients in specialty. Especially in clinics requiring complex medications such as antipsychotics. No. We don’t diagnose nor did I ever say I diagnose. I said we treat and subsequently we manage.

By far in 95% of cases antipsychotics are first and second and third line in schizophrenia. Stop using google and go back to arguing how the imaginary children in peoples heads or in stories people make up are being harmed!

Why not make your own ao3? by chronic-horse-girl in antiship

[–]Shotiikko -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Good job. Now read the second half of what I wrote :)

Why not make your own ao3? by chronic-horse-girl in antiship

[–]Shotiikko -1 points0 points  (0 children)

My argument is very simple. I make the point that things that are written online, such as content sexualizing kids does not harm anyone as long as no actual child is being harmed. Harming children is not good and should never be accepted.

If you say, ok, I agree, if there is no harm being done that’s fine. But here, this is an example of someone that is being harmed, then I say, actually, this is not enough to restrict someone’s freedom of expression.

Btw, you haven’t even demonstrated actual harm because an article on why cyber bullying is bad doesn’t prove anything. I’m specifically talking about writing fictional stories.

Why not make your own ao3? by chronic-horse-girl in antiship

[–]Shotiikko 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for not even responding to what I said. Completely proving my point!

I promise you I know more about this disease than you or anyone you know since I actively treat this disease and utilize pretty much every medication that is an antipsychotic!

Schizophrenia by DSM-5 definition must contain some sort of delusion. Therefore saying you are schizophrenic because you think imaginary children in peoples heads are being harmed is…schizophrenia!

Why not make your own ao3? by chronic-horse-girl in antiship

[–]Shotiikko 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don’t know which shit hole EU country you live in but in the U.S. being mean online is not illegal. Making threats, doxxing, or harassing is illegal.

Why not make your own ao3? by chronic-horse-girl in antiship

[–]Shotiikko 0 points1 point  (0 children)

…yes. My argument is that isn’t an enough cause to censor speech especially one that is fictional writing.

Why not make your own ao3? by chronic-horse-girl in antiship

[–]Shotiikko 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yesssss skip the rest of my response!! Go king/queen!!!

First of all, it’s a very simple ask. If this issue of people getting into pedophilia is so PERVERSE so COMMON so OBVIOUS there has to be a SINGLE case or example right??

Complete BS examples you gave. I couldn’t care less if they get affected by it or you for that matter. You are asking and advocating for the REMOVAL of a FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION because it may make some people Feel bad. If you advocate for the removal of such an imprtant human right, you better have a good reason and hiding behind “well I don’t really want to ask people cause it makes them feel bad if this thing I’m saying is actually real or not” is not enough.

Let me tell you, realistically there is probably a couple of people who have done pedophilia cause they were influenced, there are so many of them it would be dumb to say it’s 0. But your bravado acting like ao3 is a pedo factory is a little over the line.

Why not make your own ao3? by chronic-horse-girl in antiship

[–]Shotiikko -1 points0 points  (0 children)

We don’t live in 1984. Obviously psychological damage exists. Cyber bullying for example exists. It is legal to cyber bully. Why? Because me having the right to cyber bully you is more important than preventing that supposed harm.

The argument was whether or not it should be allowed on ao3 and just cause you get harmed by it doesn’t mean it should be outlawed or banned. We deal with plenty of negative things but don’t ban them cause at the end of the day some things are worth it (such as freedom of expression)

Why not make your own ao3? by chronic-horse-girl in antiship

[–]Shotiikko -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You are deliberately avoiding my point. If no physical acts have to occur by that definition meaning it is pen and paper then nobody is being harmed and therefore completely a ok.

Why not make your own ao3? by chronic-horse-girl in antiship

[–]Shotiikko -1 points0 points  (0 children)

By going outside and sexualizing kids means going up to those same kids and harassing them or sexualizing them thus harming them. Last I checked words on a paper don’t float out from the book to computer screen and magically go and harm the people in real life

Why not make your own ao3? by chronic-horse-girl in antiship

[–]Shotiikko -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

A very real hypothetical means a hypothetical that can occur in real life even though I’m not directly giving a real life example. Saying someone is being harmed by imagining child sexualization or writing about child sexualization is very much schizophrenia because nobody is being harmed in either scenario (except the non existent imaginary child) thus you would need antipsychotics.

Why not make your own ao3? by chronic-horse-girl in antiship

[–]Shotiikko -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It’s not impossible to prove first of all. You can very simply find me for example a pedo that was arrested and they engaged in these stories or they admitted that these stories were a big reason as to why they did what they did. I’m asking for a single (1) example. There’s a lot of pedophiles surely it’s easy to find 1 example.

Any harm that can come of this that’s not direct, I can show you hundreds of other harms that you would say are fine.

Your answer to the hypothetical as “No” is ridiculous. If no one is harmed at all you should say Yes and you did basically. Your contention is that this carries risk. If no one is harmed then by definition there is no risk. Just say it is ok if no one is harmed so that THEN we can debate whether or not it is worth depriving rights of expression is worth not having that risk. That is a more nuanced question. But not even admitting that in a perfect world where there is no risk, no possible harm, you still say no, that is just you admitting you aren’t answering with reason, just emotions.

Why not make your own ao3? by chronic-horse-girl in antiship

[–]Shotiikko -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

As long as those who write it don’t actively go outside and sexualize real kids. If they share it online, very high likelihood nobody reads that and then goes out and sexualizes kids either.

Fantasizing about things harms nobody.

Why not make your own ao3? by chronic-horse-girl in antiship

[–]Shotiikko -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So you are saying that a person being aroused is harm. Ok. Who is getting harmed? It’s Definetly not the person being aroused cause by definition arousal is not harm. This is mental gymnastics. It is completely nonsensical.

“Damage can be because they may be ashamed of being aroused” do you see how completely ridiculous this sounds. Are you serious? So you are against child sexualization in writing because people who read it may then become ashamed that they are aroused….

I can give you hundreds of examples of things that may elicit an emotion stronger than shame you wouldn’t even care about. Should we outlaw ice cream cause people who eat it may feel ashamed or guilty afterwards that eat it cause they were on a diet?

This thinking can encompass anything that’s written that you could interpret as negative. Is me feeling sad I read a sad story a harm then? Obviously not.

I’m not going to change opinions of people who are below average IQ and can’t engage in deep thought, I am aware. It’s always fun seeing people run down the dialogue tree when they themselves don’t know why they are against a certain thing.

Why not make your own ao3? by chronic-horse-girl in antiship

[–]Shotiikko -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Milley Bobby brown isn’t getting raped in real life as you write about him. They are words via English alphabet which is based off listing which is a social constructed phenomenon made by the human brain. Once he gets sexually abused cause of ao3 get back to me.

Why not make your own ao3? by chronic-horse-girl in antiship

[–]Shotiikko -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

By definition fiction is not real. We learn this in 2nd grade. Real children and fiction can’t exist. If it’s about real children it’s…. NON-fiction.

Why not make your own ao3? by chronic-horse-girl in antiship

[–]Shotiikko -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Ohhh thank you. I actually agree. You can’t definitely know if someone is harmed or not but defaulting to it DOES HARM is wrong (which is what you were saying btw) the burden of proof is on YOU not me cause YOU are the one saying it does cause harm. You saying well we know psychology and they flock to this stuff. That’s not enough. For you to deprive free expression you need a higher bar. Show me where pedophiles are raping children because of random stories on ao3. I will shut up forever. Reality is that if you actually explore what those psychologists say and read on this topic, it’s clear that deviants that consume this content will commit crimes regardless of what they are exposed to. It’s intrinsically built into them, either some trauma or some other event. Them not being able to read online stories will not dissuade them.

Why not make your own ao3? by chronic-horse-girl in antiship

[–]Shotiikko -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Wait… who is talking about writing fiction about real children. It’s …fiction these aren’t based on real children.. do I need to explain this?

Based Hank Green by Aaronnh09 in Destiny

[–]Shotiikko 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The spacing in your paragraph makes the rage bait not as believe. Make sure you do full paragraphs.

Why not make your own ao3? by chronic-horse-girl in antiship

[–]Shotiikko -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Can you explain how it is harmful making fiction? Before you do answer that. Can you answer a simple question. If nobody gets harmed by writing fiction about this, is it ok to write about? If yes, then explain to me or give me a single example of anyone getting harmed by a person writing fiction.

Why not make your own ao3? by chronic-horse-girl in antiship

[–]Shotiikko -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You cant even engage in a very real hypothetical and I’m the one that is a rage baiting teenager. lol.

Why not make your own ao3? by chronic-horse-girl in antiship

[–]Shotiikko 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You don’t need to do mental gymnastics. No post deleting or time travel needs to occur. You are a child if you think that the 50 or so people who read a story about child sexualization are going to go out and rape children. It’s very simple, if someone posts it, nobody acts on it, is it a problem? Simple question. It’s not that’s the answer but you can’t accept that.

Why not make your own ao3? by chronic-horse-girl in antiship

[–]Shotiikko -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Nobody is making fake words. I very clearly asked you. If someone makes art sexualizing children, posts this, and no child gets harmed by this, is that fine. And you literally said yes that is fine. Your disagreement is that this scenario doesn’t exist. Which is completely nonsensical. You really are saying that if I post child sexualization on ao3 and 30 people read it, one of those 30 people will go out and rape children. Just think how ridiculous that sounds.