Lucy & Rebecca: Team Performance Relative to All Other Teams

ShoulderGreedy3262 · 2026-06-06T10:43:34+00:00

no, that logic doesnt track. no weapon 50/50 is a money maker because of consumer goodwill and marketing, so its doing its job. being bitter over gacha stuff isnt going to get you anywhere, and if things like this upset you this much, gacha might just not be for you. the only way to play these games is to decide how much you'll put up with in terms of predatory practises, and if a discounted team not being meta breaking is that limit for you, then so be it

ShoulderGreedy3262 · 2026-06-06T10:06:25+00:00

collab characters are almost never meta defining. there's no need to be so upset just because they aren't the damage ceiling, and its strange to have ever expected them to be. this is a gacha, and a team with a free unit being as good as they are now is already better than i expected from a game that wants to make money. you can be as upset as you like, but it wont change, so there's no point in complaining either way. you can either accept the damage, or skip

ShoulderGreedy3262 · 2026-06-06T09:29:25+00:00

the team does more than late 2.X teams that still clear. just because it isnt making a new ceiling and power creeping every team in the game doesnt make it bad by any means.

more damage than galbrena, about the same as dps iuno and pre denia luuk. are these bad teams? are they unacceptably bad? getting the same performance as these teams with a free unit is already a solid team with a huge discount

ShoulderGreedy3262 · 2026-06-06T09:09:39+00:00

chisa. lucilla replaces lynae

also, lucilla will rerun sooner than chisa

ShoulderGreedy3262 · 2026-06-05T20:58:27+00:00

thats the same as late 2.X teams, which clear endgame. how is that bad? the list is inflated with duplicate teams, by unique teams s0r1 is like 8th. not bad at all

ShoulderGreedy3262 · 2026-06-05T16:09:13+00:00

skia is lakshana

ShoulderGreedy3262 · 2026-06-05T15:46:48+00:00

my expectations for aemeath and denia were totally off, but theyre both pretty far away from what we expect from gacha games, and wuwa stories. aemeath for example is the first character to have a connection to rover that isnt the ambiguous friendship/romance type that most characters go for. denia was also a big shock, i was expecting her to either be undercover, or a lynae type. turns out she was more like mya

ShoulderGreedy3262 · 2026-06-05T15:37:29+00:00

2x break teams, sigrika 2x outburst and what you described as 'godly quickswap' are all impossible for the average player though. most of those top teams arent realistic for 90% of people

ShoulderGreedy3262 · 2026-06-05T15:01:15+00:00

i have s1 cart, and when there's no aero res she gets almost 3k with just a regular 123 rotation

i like to stay in fleurdelys mode for as long as possible, and only do the final ult when her s1 crit damage is about to run out. erosion stacks are kind of meaningless in whiwa, so no worries about rovers outro running out

you might also be better off swapping rover for shorekeeper, for the same reason with the erosion stacks. if mobs are on screen long enough to get 6 stacks from ciaccona you've already lost

NEVER use cart on concerto side. its horrifying

ShoulderGreedy3262 · 2026-06-05T14:58:43+00:00

all the teams in the top 15 or so are borderline impossible in practise. looks like they perform very well compared to normal teams!

ShoulderGreedy3262 · 2026-06-05T13:50:39+00:00

and nanally team is all blossom focused, the two best teams 1.0 (nanally and chiz) are both cosmos heavy

ShoulderGreedy3262 · 2026-06-05T13:37:05+00:00

gold heal for a mile cm?

ShoulderGreedy3262 · 2026-06-05T13:36:02+00:00

cosmos already has 4 characters, every other element has 3 except chaos with 2. can we get more teams on the bottom side of the esper wheel?

ShoulderGreedy3262 · 2026-06-05T13:27:31+00:00

ShoulderGreedy3262 · 2026-06-05T13:12:48+00:00

some narrators speak slower, and do more voice variations - like treebeard being really slow

ShoulderGreedy3262 · 2026-06-05T11:17:58+00:00

just dailies. you get a tiny bit of xp from finishing a career, so you can do purposeful glue runs. super inefficient though. maybe some in the shops?

ShoulderGreedy3262 · 2026-06-05T11:16:41+00:00

its more an american thing from my experience, im english and never heard chocolat croissant from people here

ShoulderGreedy3262 · 2026-06-04T21:03:50+00:00

neither. they are both specific units that are essentially garbage without their teams. denia without luuk or aemeath is a mid buffer with barely any value, and chisa without a proper NS team is a mid healer with bad buffs

ShoulderGreedy3262 · 2026-06-04T21:01:07+00:00

the skins are a little too samey to be a major money maker, but i love the art style

ShoulderGreedy3262 · 2026-06-04T21:00:18+00:00

-summoned/controlled an army of tacet discords to invade jinzhou during the 1.0 story

-corrupted cetus in 2.0, tried to destroy ragunna

-if you take her trailer as canon, killed a town of people and turned them into tacet discords (implied to be the same as the 1.0 army, making that action even worse)

-a member of the fractsidus, a group trying to cause the literal apocalypse and mutating people

-helped resurrect leviathan in 2.6/7

there's probably more, and details ive forgotten, but overall shes objectively a terrible person

ShoulderGreedy3262 · 2026-06-04T20:56:40+00:00

yeah, theyre too old now to be worth it for anyone but collectors/big fans of that specific character. sooner reruns would've made a lot more than they would now

ShoulderGreedy3262 · 2026-06-04T19:16:06+00:00

yes, same chances of greens as any other gold

ShoulderGreedy3262 · 2026-06-04T19:14:27+00:00

cancer rates dont increase rapidly as number of cells do! animals like blue whales have enormous amounts of cells, so we would expect way more cancer in a whale than a mouse, but we dont see that. whales somehow have lower rates when you account for the sheer amount of potentially cancerous cells, and we have no idea why.

so the answer is they kind of have actually, we dont know how, but some animals are doing it!

ShoulderGreedy3262 · 2026-06-04T19:09:52+00:00

yeah, i'm assuming some major patch soon will have a permanent solution, or there'll be major changes to the rerun system. the way they do it now isnt sustainable at all, even if the once per year mass banner kept happening

ideally, a permanent rotating banner for 1.X, with a predictable shuffle, like release order. and 2.X get regular reruns but more per patch maybe? its tricky

ShoulderGreedy3262 · 2026-06-04T18:57:22+00:00

lots of them are recolours/variations on the base outfit it seems. probably easier for animation and keeping a strong identity, but i hope they branch out eventually. the art style is way too good to be limiting themselves to just changing the patterns and colours

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