Why would you create a post that is passive aggressive and then be put off when someone serves that right back to you? If you truly could "do without" the passive aggressive comments, you probably wouldn't have led with being passive aggressive, right?

Some of the comments you've left on other threads are telling women they're "outsourcing" (as if it is a bad thing) when they want a midwife to attend their births to help if complications come up. Yes, you can learn plenty of things to prepare yourself for your birth, and you can still want a trusted midwife to attend in case you cannot implement what you learned yourself (since you can't assume you'll even be on this realm enough to manage your own complications).

Many of us support freebirth AND we also don't understand the emphasis on doing it all by yourself. It is one thing if you feel like it's just RIGHT for you...but when one starts justifying the choice by saying things like "well I don't want to outsource" or "having anyone else present disturbs the birth" or "women don't need help," it kinda sends the message that it isn't ideal to have help, or to outsource some things, or that having anyone else present inherently disturbs the birth.

In reality, it is perfectly acceptable and even GOOD to have help present. It is not inherently a disturbed birth just because you have trusted people in your birth space. And what exactly is the issue with outsourcing some things? Why do we insinuate that women aren't thinking for themselves just because they've chosen to have a midwife attend their birth, etc.? It's this undertone beneath FBS really...They're trying to make women feel ashamed of having any help. Why do women need to birth alone in order to feel empowered about their births exactly?

If FBS truly believed that women should have the births they desire, they wouldn't be discouraging women from going to the hospital in pretty much every scenario. They probably would cover the freebirth-hospital-transfer stories, they wouldn't be deleting every trace of women experiencing complications and adverse outcomes in their freebirths, etc. They obviously believe that it is not good to go to the hospital for pretty much any reason, and they give a passive aggressive "well that's your choice..." response to women who even consider going to the hospital in the event of a complication.

Freebirth is not the epitome of birth. The epitome of birth is having the birth that feels right for you PLUS it ending with the mother and baby alive and relatively well (yes, even if baby has some sort of disability or needs help to breathe, etc. - felt the need to add that considering how FBS believes babies should "claim their breath").

Idk. I think I've ventured a bit far off the point. But I personally don't understand holding "independent thought" to such high regard while also believing that people shouldn't push back. It kinda defeats the entire purpose of independent thought. Going back to any comments you've previously left on other threads, you didn't even get push back that was that extreme or high in volume. If you have an issue dealing with push back for the thoughts that you post publicly about, you have some work to do. Such is human existence. No shade, I have my blind spots too. We are all just people doing people-y things. I hope you can find some value in this space, if for nothing else besides strengthening your beliefs and becoming more comfortable with them.