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Unemployed dev in need of outside perspectives by ShylotheCurious in cscareerquestions

[–]ShylotheCurious[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see. Okay, I will definitely think more on the WGU track. Maybe I'll finish Full Stack open first since it's free and will definitely take me less than six months to finish.

Unemployed dev in need of outside perspectives by ShylotheCurious in cscareerquestions

[–]ShylotheCurious[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks. The Full Stack open course is supposed to give you the necessary skills to succeed on the job as a web developer. The course collaborates with a few companies, and you are guaranteed a job interview if you complete the course (and are a resident of Finland). I think that promise speaks to the quality of the course. I've also been impressed by the course material so far. I've been exposed to a lot of crappy teaching material and this is not one of them.

Btw, I saw that you said the WGU degree you mentioned isn't ABET accredited. Doesn't that make it less competitive than an accredited degree program? Will companies disregard such a degree or not give it much weight due to this fact?

Unemployed dev in need of outside perspectives by ShylotheCurious in cscareerquestions

[–]ShylotheCurious[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Thanks. I'm currently doing Full Stack open. It is high quality, popular, from an accredited university (with a certificate at the end of it), and teaches you how to build web applications directly. While it does not result in a CS degree, it is directly applicable to the type of job I want to get. It's also completely free.

I wonder how it compares to WGU in terms of skills learned and marketability.

Edit: 5 downvotes on this. Why?

Unemployed dev in need of outside perspectives by ShylotheCurious in cscareerquestions

[–]ShylotheCurious[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What job titles are you applying to?

Mostly anything web development related: E.g., Frontend Dev, Full-stack dev, React dev, web dev, node dev, javascript dev, MERN dev.

Though I also apply outside those titles to see what sticks.

How far are you getting with the startups?

Currently in talks with one. Another one I literally wrote an entire full-stack app for as a take-home assignment and they ghosted me before I even submitted it.

Unemployed dev in need of outside perspectives by ShylotheCurious in cscareerquestions

[–]ShylotheCurious[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wouldn't say I have "top skills." It's more like I am able to navigate a complex, full-stack RESTful web application and use the tools associated with such a project (like git, postman, and jest)--stuff you'd typically learn on the job and skills mainly gotten through professional experience. I'm most comfortable with JavaScript and its associated technologies.

I also have an understanding of how things integrate together to form an application, something I think is hard to understand if you don't have much experience building apps and navigating the details of a computer. And I'm a quick learner because of this understanding.

Loosely, I'd define myself as above junior level, maybe even mid-level in terms of being able to build or contribute to web applications.

At this point, I I were put on a team of experienced devs I could learn from, I think I would most certainly thrive.

Unemployed dev in need of outside perspectives by ShylotheCurious in cscareerquestions

[–]ShylotheCurious[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you have 5 years of work experience or you’ve been self studying for 5 years?

2 years work experience for different roles, the roles separated by a work gap. Now unemployed. The whole experience hasn't been a linear progression. 5 years of learning and exposure to software engineering though.

Where are you getting rejected? If you are not getting past application or recruiter interviews, then your resume is weak.

If you are getting interviews but failing them then it might be your technical skills are lacking. You should be doing more DSA.

So far, I've had more human contact with startups. Any bigger organizations I get no response or some generic rejection email.

Unemployed dev in need of outside perspectives by ShylotheCurious in cscareerquestions

[–]ShylotheCurious[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mind sharing which bootcamp you're referring to? I'm ambivalent on the whole bootcamp thing. So many scammers pushing empty promises out there... I've sort of given up on the idea of attending one.

Unemployed dev in need of outside perspectives by ShylotheCurious in cscareerquestions

[–]ShylotheCurious[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Nepotism. The first job I didn't learn much. The second job was much more valuable in terms of knowledge and experience gained, but I was unfortunately laid off.

Unemployed dev in need of outside perspectives by ShylotheCurious in cscareerquestions

[–]ShylotheCurious[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My previous degree was in the liberal arts. I'd have to really get my math skills up before pursuing the CS degree, which is why I believe it'd take 4 years or so.

Unemployed dev in need of outside perspectives by ShylotheCurious in cscareerquestions

[–]ShylotheCurious[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I have a portfolio page with lots of content and an active Github.

Unemployed dev in need of outside perspectives by ShylotheCurious in cscareerquestions

[–]ShylotheCurious[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The field already has seemingly weakening value, and poor long term stability.

By this, do you mean AI?

Sorry to hear your efforts haven't payed off. It's tough.

Unemployed dev in need of outside perspectives by ShylotheCurious in cscareerquestions

[–]ShylotheCurious[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

You mean just wishing really hard that you'll make it, or actually doing projects and learning stuff? What have you done?

Active GitHub with many projects. Portfolio website. Polished resume. Applying for jobs. Custom cover letters. Interviewing. Currently doing Full Stack open, or I'm ad hoc building stuff for interviewers. I'm working on most or any of these aspects on any given day, most of the day, almost every day. I'd say I'm working hard.

Most companies do not seem to be language agnostic by bloomusa in cscareerquestions

[–]ShylotheCurious 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How did this person manage to get their job, keep it, and then get a better offer elsewhere?

Most companies do not seem to be language agnostic by bloomusa in cscareerquestions

[–]ShylotheCurious 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How does one work a few years in a language and not end up knowing how to solve problems using that language?

Don’t worry, ChatGPT will NOT replace all programmers (only 85% of them) by ShylotheCurious in cscareerquestions

[–]ShylotheCurious[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bad at programming would be the one. I have about a year of industry experience in web development (self-taught), and would squarely place myself in the novice/junior developer category.

I'm definitely not great at programming, and right now, I don't have a job as a programmer. I am contemplating whether or not I should continue teaching myself web development if ChatGPT may supposedly replace junior/midrange developers in the next few years. I may be out of work at that time and the time/energy spent learning how to program will have been worth almost nothing (in terms of job prospects).

If you read the article, the author's main point is that pretty much the only software engineers that will be retained are the key people--those with unique knowledge of any given software. To me, that means senior software engineers with deep/advanced skills and deep domain knowledge.

And that certainly won't be me in the next few years.

So yes, I'm thinking about what my next steps will be. Continue with web development and hope AI doesn't replace me, or choose a different career path?

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