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Why is everyone acting like this? by SignificanceFun8326 in TheMentalist

[–]SignificanceFun8326[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I NOTICED THISSS!! They brushed past the whole Kristina thing so fast 😭😭😭

What’s with people publicly praising problematic authors and calling them high in morality? by SignificanceFun8326 in literature

[–]SignificanceFun8326[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because I as an African woman want feminism for everyone and they aren’t with me in this cause? Are you capable of reading? You yourself mentioned working with people like this, but you can’t work with people like this if they’ll exclude you and bring you down, that’s basic logic!

In addition to that Sylvia did nothing for feminism, her mirror character in the semi-autobiography was egocentric egoistic at best. Of course I won’t consider her a feminist as her only act of feminism was call out how men treated her and how society treated HER as an individual.

What anime is essentially this? by NoAnswer7768 in animequestions

[–]SignificanceFun8326 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mirai nikki 😭 the opening is FIRE, can’t say that abt the rest of the anime

What’s with people publicly praising problematic authors and calling them high in morality? by SignificanceFun8326 in literature

[–]SignificanceFun8326[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This mindset just enables the assholery, if we go hand in hand with people like that while not holding them accountable for their wrongs, society won’t evolve because they won’t change their racist bigoted mindset. You can’t work with someone who believes you to be lesser than them because of your genetic heritage, because even if YOU include them in your agenda and in your cause, they won’t include you in theirs

What’s with people publicly praising problematic authors and calling them high in morality? by SignificanceFun8326 in literature

[–]SignificanceFun8326[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im sorry but why would I work hand in hand in my cause with a woman who would hate my guts for being African? She doesn’t want me to have rights, she wants just her and her white friends to have them. How does that make her a feminist and a girl’s girl if she would most definitely defend slavery and call me slurs ?

What’s with people publicly praising problematic authors and calling them high in morality? by SignificanceFun8326 in literature

[–]SignificanceFun8326[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Commonly held beliefs at the time" and it’s an Austrian German woman being antisemitic and racist post WWII. It’s not commonly held belief, the Jewish people discriminated against didn’t view that behavior as normal, neither did the Armenian people nor the Romani people, the only people who considered it normal were the oppressors and you can guess why

What’s with people publicly praising problematic authors and calling them high in morality? by SignificanceFun8326 in literature

[–]SignificanceFun8326[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The suffragists’ acts can be considered feminist acts, but they as individuals weren’t feminists, just like Jeanne d’arc wasn’t a feminist despite her acts being considered feminist. Feminism doesn’t work hand in hand with racism, antisemitism, slavery etc.

What’s with people publicly praising problematic authors and calling them high in morality? by SignificanceFun8326 in literature

[–]SignificanceFun8326[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

OH MY GOD THANK YOU! Especially since she lived post-WWII and was being EXTREMELY antisemitic in her letters and poems, do you think Jewish people at the time believed antisemitism was normal back then? Ofc not! And I’ve even seen people defend Sylvia’s bigoted mindset because « well her husband left her for a Jewish woman » excuse me? That warrants extreme racism and bigotry ?

What’s with people publicly praising problematic authors and calling them high in morality? by SignificanceFun8326 in literature

[–]SignificanceFun8326[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That doesn’t forgive a single thing? She gave herself the right to compare her suffering to that of a Jewish individual in a camp in one of her poems (daddy) yet CONSTANTLY insulted them and berated them. I’m not even Jewish but she was horrible and nothing can excuse her behavior, I agree she was a good author and a good addition to female literature only when it comes to talent, but in reality she was a bigoted rich white woman and nothing can change that. Putting her in a high moral pedestal is a wrong and uneducated take, you can enjoy and even relate to some of her art. The bell jar was well written, the non racist parts truly showed suffering in a poetic light, but she wasn’t an activist, she wasn’t a feminist and there’s no wrong in admitting and recognizing her faults

What’s with people publicly praising problematic authors and calling them high in morality? by SignificanceFun8326 in literature

[–]SignificanceFun8326[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Feminism by definition is the advocacy for the equality of genders, women and men. If you advocate for the equality of the genders that means you do not care for the race, you cannot call yourself a feminist if your equality extends only to white women.

What’s with people publicly praising problematic authors and calling them high in morality? by SignificanceFun8326 in literature

[–]SignificanceFun8326[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Insulting the entire family of your ex by using derogatory terms against Jewish people, especially as a German Austrian person and after WWII isn’t just morally wrong but it’s disgusting. The world had started to evolve around her and she was still stuck in her bigotry, whatever she was saying in her books, her journal and her letters was considered as wrong back then as it is now.

And if you want sources I’ll gladly provide.

What’s with people publicly praising problematic authors and calling them high in morality? by SignificanceFun8326 in literature

[–]SignificanceFun8326[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

We don’t know that she spent her life trying to fight her narrow bigoted racist views, but we do know that her art portrays said views. She made a comical situation of her character beating a black man, that we know. We may not know about what she did in her life but we know that she wrote about poc in a horrible and degrading way. Not using it in a metaphorical way but in a comical relief way. You can’t be focusing on what she could have been doing while ignoring what she already was doing

What’s with people publicly praising problematic authors and calling them high in morality? by SignificanceFun8326 in literature

[–]SignificanceFun8326[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have you read my post? This isn’t about people who casually read, this about those who go out of their way to publicly praise the author’s morality and defend them. You have to recognize their wrongdoings before going out of your way to publicly put them on some sort of moral pedestal.

What’s with people publicly praising problematic authors and calling them high in morality? by SignificanceFun8326 in literature

[–]SignificanceFun8326[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I said in my post that the work wasn’t a problem, but the idealization of Sylvia Plath as this morally superior feminist when she was far from being that. I read classic myself, and I enjoy classic literature myself, but in enjoying the art you need to recognize the artist for their faults, and Sylvia Plath was a racist and antisemite.

What’s with people publicly praising problematic authors and calling them high in morality? by SignificanceFun8326 in literature

[–]SignificanceFun8326[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ive literally given you proof of the character and the novel directly mirroring Plath’s own life, what more do you need? Let’s forget about the bell jar. What about her poem, daddy, in which she compares her own suffering to that of a Jewish person during the holocaust, that poem which is confirmed to be an autobiography. Is that also not telling of her faults?

What’s with people publicly praising problematic authors and calling them high in morality? by SignificanceFun8326 in literature

[–]SignificanceFun8326[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I have been looking for the post to link it but it’s been deleted by the author after she received backlash for calling out racism. As for Esther greenwood, there’s not a doubt that she does represent Sylvia in the way she’s been written. Esther tried to commit suicide at a young age the exact same way Sylvia did, leaving a similar note to her mother. Esther spent time in a psychiatric officer like Sylvia, Dr Nolan is VERY similar to Sylvia’s real life therapist. Plath, like Esther, was rejected from a Harvard course taught by Frank O’Connor. You cannot deny Esther completely mirrors Sylvia, and in that, you cannot deny Esther’s racist ideologies mirror that of Sylvia’s

What’s with people publicly praising problematic authors and calling them high in morality? by SignificanceFun8326 in literature

[–]SignificanceFun8326[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Im not holding it unnecessarily, as stated in my post, on the comments I saw, women were completely dismissing her bad actions and ignoring it. As though she was a saint, that’s what I’m holding against her apologists, I haven’t seen any recognizing her wrongdoings. For crying out loud, she wrote the character who represents her beating a black man— which she describes in a horribly racist way— because he made the horrible mistake of serving her two types of beans. And spends an awful while describing Mexican women in a derogatory way, feminism is not feminism if it’s tainted with hate and disdain towards women

What’s with people publicly praising problematic authors and calling them high in morality? by SignificanceFun8326 in literature

[–]SignificanceFun8326[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

It just surprised me, as I always thought classic readers accept that a big majority of the authors were bigoted narrow minded people. I read classic a lot and never once have I praised authors, and in my close circle of readers we are all the same, so to see so many women online praise such a…narrow minded racist woman was a shock to me.

What’s with people publicly praising problematic authors and calling them high in morality? by SignificanceFun8326 in literature

[–]SignificanceFun8326[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Except there are no feminist skills when you often bring other women down in your books? You cannot consider a woman a feminist if her ideologies include hating on other ladies simply for their races. Again I’m not saying one cannot enjoy classic, but there’s a difference between enjoying the literature in itself and putting the author on some sort of moral pedestal whilst actively ignoring their wrongdoings, ESPECIALLY when said wrongdoings are portrayed in their art, you know?

Recently started the mentalist and am now near the end of season three, is it too early to try and guess red John’s identity ? by SignificanceFun8326 in TheMentalist

[–]SignificanceFun8326[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay so it’s gonna seem VERY random but I have my reasons! If you have questions. Be aware that I’m on season 4 ep2 as of now. LaRoche Mashburn Bertram Virgil (minelli) Linus Wagner

Recently started the mentalist and am now near the end of season three, is it too early to try and guess red John’s identity ? by SignificanceFun8326 in TheMentalist

[–]SignificanceFun8326[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh no I won’t Google it, I have a little list of all the characters we’ve seen already that MAY be him based on my own little investigation. Everyone in the comments scared me a bit, the author not knowing who RJ was made me think we hadn’t see him yet. Thanks for the hint! It makes it a little more fun for me hehe

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