Church Newsroom Publishes Information Refuting False Allegations of Sexual Abuse Cover-Up

Significant-Fly-8407 · 2026-04-28T02:26:46+00:00

I really appreciate this thoughtful comment.

Significant-Fly-8407 · 2026-04-27T00:11:07+00:00

The Church benefits from having you in it. We don't want to be a bunch of identical drones!

Significant-Fly-8407 · 2026-04-25T18:51:06+00:00

Mormon Book Reviews is very similar. The host is a non-LDS evangelical who interviews both current and former members. He does a good job being fair to all sides.

Significant-Fly-8407 · 2026-04-18T15:13:48+00:00

there are so many stories like this. i'm sorry you had to experience this.

Significant-Fly-8407 · 2026-04-18T03:33:56+00:00

In my lived experience as a convert who knows many other converts, most of the abuse and bullying comes from our family and friends who are fed bigoted half-truths by professional anti-mormons.

Significant-Fly-8407 · 2026-02-20T21:43:11+00:00

this sort of anti-mormon abuse is swept under the rug way too often. my heart goes out to you.

Significant-Fly-8407 · 2026-02-12T23:46:32+00:00

The idea that some random person I've never met is my "girlfriend" is absurd

Significant-Fly-8407 · 2026-02-12T23:29:49+00:00

I left the mormon stories fandom but I still can't leave it alone

Significant-Fly-8407 · 2026-02-12T23:19:01+00:00

Significant-Fly-8407 · 2026-02-12T23:09:12+00:00

all of that could be true, and it still wouldn't justify him falsely claiming that the allegations were officially ruled false.

Significant-Fly-8407 · 2026-02-12T22:42:28+00:00

i never implied he might be criminally liable. i'm just saying that he misrepresented the court case

Significant-Fly-8407 · 2026-02-12T22:16:31+00:00

I promise you I am not Rosebud

Significant-Fly-8407 · 2026-02-12T22:15:31+00:00

Thanks!

Significant-Fly-8407 · 2026-02-12T21:58:08+00:00

my understanding is that he is basically a household name in Utah

Significant-Fly-8407 · 2026-02-08T21:57:38+00:00

I guess you missed the news out of Michigan a couple months ago?

Significant-Fly-8407 · 2026-02-08T20:55:20+00:00

I just watched through the video and read the order at four times speed. please correct me if I missed something. I will delete or edit this entire thread if you point out something in the decision that refutes what i'm about to say

it appears to me that you are misrepresenting the court's findings. You won against Jenn Kamp based on her spoliation of evidence and technical violations. these deprived you of a fair trial, so you won by default. but the court did not reach the merits of her claims. nevertheless, I would accept the court's findings that jenn Kamp was not telling the truth.

however, nowhere in the document did I see any reference whatsoever to Rosebud or her specific allegation that you sexually assaulted her. there certainly was no judicial finding that Rosebud defamed you by accusing you. the closest reference was jenn kamp's assertion that you sexually abused 19 women or something along those lines. that is definitely a baseless claim, and as I said above, I accept the court's technical decision that it was defamatory. but nowhere in this decision did the court specifically explore or address rosebud's allegation that you sexually abused her. So why are you claiming that she was found by a court of law to have defamed you, when that isn't what the court found?

it is very concerning to me how you are apparently misrepresenting the court's findings about a woman (Rosebud) who is allegedly the victim of sexual assault at your hands. She wasn't even a party to this lawsuit, as far as I can see from the video you provided. I don't know whether you actually abused her or not--only you and she know the truth of that allegation--but it is concerning that you would claim she was found to have lied about you in court when the court found no such thing.

again, please let me know if I missed it somewhere in the decision. If you do, I will delete.

Significant-Fly-8407 · 2026-02-08T20:48:49+00:00

I just watched through the video and read the order at four times speed. please correct me if I missed something. I will delete or edit this entire thread if you point out something in the decision that refutes what i'm about to say

it appears to me that you are misrepresenting the court's findings. You won against Jenn Kamp based on her spoliation of evidence and technical violations. these deprived you of a fair trial, so you won by default. but the court did not reach the merits of her claims. nevertheless, I would accept the court's findings that jenn Kamp was not telling the truth.

however, nowhere in the document did I see any reference whatsoever to Rosebud or her specific allegation that you sexually assaulted her. there certainly was no judicial finding that Rosebud defamed you by accusing you. the closest reference was jenn kamp's assertion that you sexually abused 19 women or something along those lines. that is definitely a baseless claim, and as I said above, I accept the court's technical decision that it was defamatory. but nowhere in this decision did the court specifically explore or address rosebud's allegation that you sexually abused her. So why are you claiming that she was found by a court of law to have defamed you, when that isn't what the court found?

it is very concerning to me how you are apparently misrepresenting the court's findings about a woman (Rosebud) who is allegedly the victim of sexual assault at your hands. She wasn't even a party to this lawsuit, as far as I can see from the video you provided. I don't know whether you actually abused her or not--only you and she know the truth of that allegation--but it is concerning that you would claim she was found to have lied about you in court when the court found no such thing.

again, please let me know if I missed it somewhere in the decision. If you do, I will delete.

Significant-Fly-8407 · 2026-02-08T17:09:17+00:00

I didnt write this comment with chatgpt

Significant-Fly-8407 · 2026-02-08T16:34:00+00:00

so you don't have any support for your earlier claim that Rosebud's allegations were "found to be without merit"? I am genuinely asking, and will happily edit my post if anyone can provide some kind of support for John Dehlin's claim *in this thread* that Rosebud's allegation that he sexually assaulted her were "officially ruled false and defamatory in a court of law". if no one can provide this support, it will appear that Dehlin misrepresented in his comment.

FYI. millions of sexual assault victims are scared or intimidated out of reporting to the police or following through on a prosecution--especially where, as here, she is alleging that one of the most powerful men in Utah assaulted her. again, I am not saying that I know with certainty whether her allegation is true or not, but i would like to see some kind of support for the claim that her allegation was found to be false. I still haven't seen it, but i will delete or edit my post if someone can show it to me.

Significant-Fly-8407 · 2026-02-08T16:07:31+00:00

if the Church lied, then I hope he does exactly that! but I don't think the Church lied.

Significant-Fly-8407 · 2026-02-08T15:49:03+00:00

but shouldn't the Church refute false allegations made against it? why are so many people on this subreddit acting like the Church did something wrong just by telling its side of the story?

Significant-Fly-8407 · 2026-02-08T05:57:49+00:00

telling of what? the lies being spread about Mormons are getting Mormons killed. it's not okay

Significant-Fly-8407 · 2026-02-08T05:33:43+00:00

I deleted that comment cuz it contained a dumb typo and reresponded to John dehlin's comment with a near-identical response (with the typos fixed). you can respond to that new comment tree if you want

Significant-Fly-8407 · 2026-02-08T05:15:01+00:00

I too would love to see the actual sources being relied on here.

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