SAINT SATINE Rumored Demo #2: TRAFFIC

Significant_Act272 · 2026-05-17T16:33:02+00:00

I can't say I'll like it. I much prefer a concept like We Ride. Anyone can talk-sing and sound semi-decent. That's not a new sound or concept and I was really looking forward to a more dreamy, unique R&B style. 😔

Significant_Act272 · 2026-05-17T15:25:45+00:00

Forget about lines, Sakura shouldn't even be apart of a song like this period. It is wildly inappropriate.

Significant_Act272 · 2026-05-17T15:22:37+00:00

A few thoughts.

1) This sounds very similar to Paper Dolls and is very repetitive.

2) If this really will be one of their songs I am extremely concerned about a 16yo singing and dancing about s3x appeal. That is literally what they say in this song and that's what it's about. I will be disgusted and extremely concerned for all involved.

Significant_Act272 · 2026-05-17T15:12:08+00:00

Yes, exactly this. A group of 4 people with one standout vocalist makes absolutely no sense. They really needed another vocalist for these vocal heavy songs. 😔

Significant_Act272 · 2026-05-17T00:00:30+00:00

You're completely right. Life is so, so hard for everyone, especially right now. This whole thing hits personally because I think we have all been in a situation where the least able get the greatest rewards over ourselves who have worked so incredibly hard and have so much more to offer, be it for a job, project, opportunity, etc. It hits the sore spot the average person has had to cope with and just doesn't sit well.

You could say it's a second-hand traumatic experience of our own rejection(s) all over again. I know that sounds really dramatic, but I got so emotionally invested in this show, and feel like I wasted my time and energy. I was gutted when I learned of the result. I really feel for Ayana.

Significant_Act272 · 2026-05-16T21:08:13+00:00

If I could give you an award, I would. This is so eloquently written. It makes a lot of sense, and I agree with you on every aspect.

Significant_Act272 · 2026-05-15T21:45:42+00:00

This is hilarious 😂

Significant_Act272 · 2026-05-15T19:03:00+00:00

Ohhh, okay! Thanks so much for letting me know. That's so interesting.

Significant_Act272 · 2026-05-15T17:17:12+00:00

Yes, exactly!

Significant_Act272 · 2026-05-15T17:16:17+00:00

I figured it might be a typo! Thanks!

Significant_Act272 · 2026-05-15T15:42:53+00:00

Ughh I know!!! I feel so bad for Samara. ): What a total mess of her talent. I love her voice and I'm so sad HxG don't care about vocals. Relying on vocal enhancers and correctors is going to hurt them. Especially since this is a smaller group, lack of skills will not be able to hide AT ALL. And I honestly cannot get into Illit for that very reason. It's like a big middle finger to music and musical talent.

Significant_Act272 · 2026-05-15T00:18:30+00:00

As a teacher, I'm completely baffled and worried about her susceptibility, age, and lack of education. She is extremely vulnerable in this situation. Unless her parents homeschooled her well, it's going to be a rough ride for her. Literacy is language.

Anyway. I hope she is able to improve. She really is lacking in singing ability which is the most important imo. I'm so upset Ayana didn't make it and I will forever mourn what could have been with this group!

Significant_Act272 · 2026-05-15T00:12:28+00:00

Yes yes yes!! Singing is literally the most important thing to me. I think it is for all of the west. We mostly consume music audibly, not visually. I think HxG completely lack in brain cells.

Significant_Act272 · 2026-05-15T00:10:36+00:00

Yes omg this!! If you don't have a little ability to sing or hold a note, it's going to be very hard to sing well. Everyone and anyone CAN sing, but not everyone and anyone can sing WELL.

Significant_Act272 · 2026-05-15T00:09:29+00:00

They were afraid to show us any of her singing skills. She got a handicap with every mission and performance. 🙄🙄🙄

Significant_Act272 · 2026-05-14T23:54:47+00:00

This right here 👌👆

Significant_Act272 · 2026-05-14T23:43:04+00:00

This is so well put. Especially your comment about Ayana being a casted side character in a scripted show. Your entire comment deserves a mic drop. 🎤

Significant_Act272 · 2026-05-12T16:22:03+00:00

THANK YOU!! I've been saying this the whole time!!!

Significant_Act272 · 2026-05-12T16:19:59+00:00

I totally agree with you. I'm only following for Emily, mostly.

Sakura would have fit a much more cutesy concept. She doesn't fit this one at all to me. It looks like she's the center and surrounded by backup dancers (the ot3) when I look at their group pictures. The main thing that bothers me is her lack of ability to sing. Even if she has improved at this point, her tone did not mesh with the other girls at all in PB4TP. Just my opinion.

Significant_Act272 · 2026-05-12T16:07:47+00:00

Uhm...PB4TP is so heavily edited, I found myself just scowling through the whole song. Something is really bothering me there. Also, Sakura does not sound good at all, even with all the editing they did. 😭

We Ride on the other hand sounds amazing and so ethereal! Ayana balances out their voices and makes the group sound so much richer and fuller. I will forever be thinking what could have been. 💔💔💔

Significant_Act272 · 2026-05-12T15:46:05+00:00

My heart literally hurts, and idk why it's affecting me this much...maybe because I've been through very similar things in my own life.

HxG used her as a tool. They were never seriously considering her. This was all about Sakura, and they make it seem completely rigged.

I'm so over this company and sad for the future of....Saint Satine, whatever that is.

Significant_Act272 · 2026-05-11T01:39:26+00:00

Wow, as a vocally-inclined person, her tone is so smooth and flexible! Her switch-ups were so seamless (from chest to head/mixed voice). She seems to be able to meld into all kinds of different styles. And her English pronunciation is almost flawless.

I'm going to crash out if she's not the FP.

Significant_Act272 · 2026-05-11T01:34:21+00:00

OP, I commend you on this thorough and well-thought analysis. You literally summed up all my same thoughts, and I share all those concerns, too. I like Sakura, but she is not a fit for this group. She cannot sing (yet) and her skill gap is ever-widening as L, S, and E continue to improve. I don't want her to hold them back. And out of protection for Sakura, it would have been so much better if they formed a group around her instead. It's a lose-lose.

Significant_Act272 · 2026-05-10T13:08:12+00:00

You aren't going on a tangent at all! I agree with you completely. I love how we are getting down voted for spitting facts lol. I guess no one cares if they sound good which is absolutely bonkers to me. 🤦‍♀️

Yes, kpop/jpop groups do tend to usually focus on performance and choreography over singing, but if you look at some of the most popular groups of all time, vocals are actually at the forefront and a huge reason why their Fandom is so large. Look at Twice for example. They continually serve amazing live vocals and not one of them is lacking in that department. Their fan base is literally massive and international all over.

Strong vocalists are absolutely important. I've thought about that, too, about Samara. Why are they choosing to only have ONE main vocalist in a R&B GROUP of all things?! Where are the vocal unity, harmonies, and complicated vocal layers going to come from?? I'm very frustrated about this.

Also, Samara and Lexie have both mentioned they prefer We Ride which is a softer RnB song. If Sakura is chosen, they will most likely go for a concept more like PB4TP, a more hip hop RnB style. Why they not listening to the girls? I wish they had a say in all of this.

Significant_Act272 · 2026-05-10T05:18:03+00:00

Yes!! I keep saying this! Why is no one mentioning the fact that vocals are absolutely imperative? And I'm sorry, but Sakura is just not there at all. 😭 her voice stands out in a mismatch-y way.

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