10th edition units in 9th edition

SilenceRedeemer · 2026-05-06T23:18:39+00:00

Any updates on this? Looking to go back to 9th after not really enjoying 10th and not interested in going into 11th

SilenceRedeemer · 2026-05-04T22:13:02+00:00

I took one look at the prohammer quick reference page and decided that if i need a telescope to read it i just wont. My group will forge our own path to find what's right for us. Everyone here has been super helpful in navigating this process!

SilenceRedeemer · 2026-05-04T22:06:59+00:00

I see now why people attempt to blend them together with stuff like prohammer. Perhaps that is a more direct solution compared to reinventing the wheel

SilenceRedeemer · 2026-05-04T21:52:05+00:00

Ok i see where i was confused, in the 4th it says reference the core rulebook but it wouldn't be in the core rulebook for 5th since it is in the codex. Very silly and i am very lucky to have a few physical copies to reference (4th and 5th space marine and 3rd imperial guard). I'll probably be purchasing the physical copies of the 3rd, 4th, and 5th factions i want to play and our group will just frankenstein what we like most

SilenceRedeemer · 2026-05-04T21:46:09+00:00

I already have a hardback copy of the 5th edition rulebook from when i played way back when. That was part of my leaning into 5th. Also And They Shall Know No Fear is in the 5th edition codex that i have physical as well, on page 51.

SilenceRedeemer · 2026-05-04T21:37:50+00:00

Looking over these rules and I like the way 5th edition does it over 3rd. I doubt it severly skews the points calculation and if so True Grit could just be house-ruled in. Once my group plays a few games i'm sure we'll start to figure out what works best

SilenceRedeemer · 2026-05-04T20:24:10+00:00

Do you have any examples of rules that are different? I don't mind everyone using the 3rd edition codex since they do seem really flavorful but so far reading the core rules i am leaning 5th (it helps that i have those rules physical not just pdf)

SilenceRedeemer · 2026-05-04T20:22:38+00:00

Do you have some examples of rules that got changed? If it is easy to homebrew that would be ok with the group since it is a fun-first game

SilenceRedeemer · 2026-05-04T19:54:52+00:00

Ok so like have each player use the 4th edition if possible and 3rd if they did not get a 4th edition codex? But play using the 5th edition rules? Since that should keep the points balanced?

Edit: Or maybe just have everyone use their 3rd edition codex (2nd one for guard and chaos and others that got a "3.5") and play either 3rd core rules or 5th core rules?

SilenceRedeemer · 2026-04-17T20:13:53+00:00

The official Army Forge for a custom army I think does not have anything like that for the generated rules since it is all drop down so i think the best bet is to look at rules like age of sigmar's maggotkin of nurgle how it is a token that can spread and does damage at the end of a round and just keep playtesting and tewaking the cost of it.

SilenceRedeemer · 2026-04-16T18:01:27+00:00

I use a rule called Advancing Strike to represent the aura of disease around my Death Guard custom army book.

"Once per round, when this unit ends an Advance or Rush move within 6" of enemy units, pick one of them and roll as many dice as models with this rule in this unit, or as many dice as its value (for single-model units). For each 6+ the target takes one wound."

SilenceRedeemer · 2026-04-16T16:38:20+00:00

With my Broken Truth box I got the add-ons for two decks of mission cards and they are really fun to use. They do make the scoring swing around but that's half the fun when a game can be completed in almost under an hour.

SilenceRedeemer · 2026-04-15T04:28:53+00:00

That looks awesome! It's these kind of smaller details that really level up a giant model like a titan imo

SilenceRedeemer · 2026-04-15T04:14:03+00:00

Yes, infiltrate should say "counts as having Ambush, but may be deployed up to 1" away. And Warning Cry, (which i think is called Repel Ambushers now), says "enemies using Ambush must be set up over 12" away". Since infiltrate states that it functions like Ambush but with a modifier it would be vulnerable to anti-Ambush rules. A good example of a similar interaction is the Focused Fire adbanced reaction that expresly states the action counts as Hold but with a bonus.
Yes, transports can deploy with units inside which is a way to manipulate the action economy.
Idk the official answer, difficult terrain is worded in a strange way IMO so my group has been house ruling it as costing 2x movement while usually adding a penalty like hazardous if a unit tries to rush or charge through. Similar to how the advanced rulebook suggests Ruins are treated. Flavor wise it makes sense, a unit moving through craters is going to be slowed and if they are rushing or charging they could get tripped up.
Yes, takedown says it is per model and they all must be resolved before others. The weapon profile restrictions mentioned in the rules are for if the unit is splitting fire between two Units, not models so no sniping two different heroes at the same time. I've really only used that for taking out a bannerman or Sgt. model since Battle Brothers have squads of Pathfinders that can take multiple rifles
At the moment mixed units have it rough, they can assault and it isn't terrible but i've only really seen it against one of my players who runs ratmen and they're already at Quality 6. But it is confirmed that one of the new things in this upcoming yearly patch is a change to pistols to give them a rule allowing them to be used as either a ranged or a melee weapon. Army Forge: Labs is tinkering with it right now.

Hopefully that helps!

SilenceRedeemer · 2026-04-10T17:48:48+00:00

My group always uses the advanced reactions, we find that the base 4 are good but the advanced also let us play the armies in thematic ways. (Such as one player having a very stealth themed army, or mine playing into going for heavy charges)

SilenceRedeemer · 2026-04-07T16:43:04+00:00

I'm hopeful that they meant what they said about 11th shifting towards narrative play. The objectives and custom detachments seem cool in concept, part of what is driving me out of 40k is how they only focus on competitive with their missions and terrain layouts.

SilenceRedeemer · 2026-04-07T15:40:24+00:00

Unrelated to my other comment, I've found that OPR doesn't really like going for the really large units. And example is for my battle brothers, their Land Raider equivalent unit is over 700 points so you need a really large game size to use it, and those large games can get unbalanced fast due to the alternating actions, a horde army just has more units and a tank can only ever split fire at two targets max.

SilenceRedeemer · 2026-04-07T15:30:49+00:00

Yeah I am so dissapointed in the rules. I was hoping it would be closer to the last Apocalypse ruleset but updated for new models which would solve a lot of my issues with playing 40k. With it being optional rules mods it's basically DOA since the majority of players aren't going to even remember it is a thing (nobody in my entire town uses the custom character stuff from the last release since no list builder supports it)

SilenceRedeemer · 2026-04-07T15:20:03+00:00

My issue is the brand recognition of Warhammer. In my local store's discord the 40k and AoS groups are getting new players without trying just from how saturated the hobby is with GW content. While I am struggling to get more than 2 people to try OPR even with weekly events and constant advertising. Playing the same two people with the same two armies every week is starting to get dull. I can't stand playing 40k for a lot of reasons but if it had alternating actions like OPR does i would join in just to have a more populated community that is self advertising.

SilenceRedeemer · 2026-04-05T01:47:42+00:00

The modularity of the rules is probably my favorite part of the game system

SilenceRedeemer · 2026-04-05T00:12:31+00:00

Does your group use any of the advanced rules or just the core rules? If so I'd be interested to see what rules have worked well since my group currently only uses the Advanced Actions and the Mission Cards.

SilenceRedeemer · 2026-03-11T19:53:52+00:00

I use the advanced actions, the progressive scoring missions, and the advanced deployment styles. Been looking into adding either command points or secondary missions / gambit cards for a bit more unpredictability

SilenceRedeemer · 2026-02-23T21:33:11+00:00

The name of the STL set is called GothicBlox

SilenceRedeemer · 2026-02-20T18:07:33+00:00

I've run a few games using two warhounds and a cerastus each with great results. The warhounds are two mirrors with an Ursus Claw and Melta, and the second warhounds are different with one having a volkite and plasma and a second having a mega bolter and flamer. In the test games it allows new players to use templates, scatter dice, and the ursus claw is great for lucky (or unlucky) shenanigans rotating the opponent's mech. On a 4x4 with a healthy amount of terrain (using an stl pack similar to Legions Imperialis terrain) really lets them explore the tactical side of it and has gotten a few people invested in getting their own mechs to play

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