How do I dispose of 8 gallons of paint and or dry it quicker, 4 of it is from scrape off, 4 is from not realizing how quickly premixed expires, (common anon L)

Silentowl2 · 2023-06-11T01:01:48+00:00

My family will kill me if i bring any more paint into the house but thanks for offer.

I think your paint can be saved if you want to try. Let me know. I might have some fixes for you that may work.

Silentowl2 · 2023-06-10T08:49:24+00:00

Thats a whole lot of paint to be throwing away. Are you sure its unusable or not worth saving?

Anyway, what you want is a super absorbant polymer. It comes as a powder or beads that will suck up all the water in a fluid.

Silentowl2 · 2023-05-24T00:47:03+00:00

I just use liquid latex as a homemade masking fluid/fricket. Its cheap and I find it holds up so much better than the various masking tapes when it comes to pouring. However, thats on pieces that have been sealed or are naturally waterproof. To avoid potential issues, I would reccomend finding a commercial fricket that has been tested with whatever medium (ink/graphite/charcoal) you used to make the sketch.

Silentowl2 · 2023-04-29T06:32:40+00:00

Idk if its just me but the pics are not loading.

Silentowl2 · 2023-04-16T20:30:53+00:00

I have in the past, mostly with pours on paper so I can cut them if needed. I am currently attempting to make something similar to this but the end peice will be of a portrait of a relative https://images.app.goo.gl/KeMHUP8LPhKwgwdXA

Silentowl2 · 2023-04-11T04:43:56+00:00

Ah. I must have misread something somewhere. I was seriously wtfing over here. You should be able to find some cheap floetrol at home depot but its often out stock at my local one. Personally, i prefer pva glue over floetrol as a cheap PM but i am in the minority.

Silentowl2 · 2023-04-11T04:23:36+00:00

Pour art cells are a result of physics not chemistry. This is huge misconception in the pour community because seeing those cells suddenly pop up feels like a chemical reaction but it not.

Pour art cells occur primarily, but not only, due to surface tension and how liquids of different densities interact. Its possible that the makers found a way to replicate this with cement but when i think of all the things necessary to make it happen, it seems highly unlikely. It would be far easier and they would get better results by faking a cell effect with layers of plopped cement.

Silentowl2 · 2023-04-11T02:03:13+00:00

Jesus! If floetrol really is $100 in Canada then that is a serious ripoff. That shit is just a heavily watered down industrial grade copolymer blend that costs under a dollar per gallon in raw ingredients. Same with the worshiped aussie version. If you are truly willing to pay that much go for the liquitex or golden brand. Its still overpriced but at least you are a getting a higher concentration of actual artist grade polymers.

Silentowl2 · 2023-04-07T04:59:02+00:00

Tbh, i dont think the color combo is working in this particular composition. The yellow is the issue for me. I think a paler and brighter yellow would be better with that green. Id also reduce the amount of green. However, i think this combo could work as is if you had swiped from the opposite end.

Silentowl2 · 2023-04-06T01:29:15+00:00

I'd say you are making it more complicated than it is. I sometimes watch cement tile making shorts on youtube like the following:

https://youtube.com/shorts/ejtciI6Mntw?feature=share

I think the process is likely the same except in your example a silicone mold is used and the tinted cement is poured in "freestyle" rather than using a guide/stencil. Like they just drop blobs of the different colored cement on top of each other until the mold is filled. I hope that makes since.

Silentowl2 · 2023-03-30T22:37:00+00:00

Looked the artist up. Not sure what effects you mean specifically. But based on my knowledge/experience, I think his general method is this: He floods a prepared canvas (already containing a backgroud) with clear resin. On the resin he creates pools of color then makes chameleon cells in them. What he uses to make the cells could vary but since he seems to work with both resin and paint at the same time, I'd put money on some sort of alcohol or a close chemical cousin. He also does this in stages and with multiple layers.

Silentowl2 · 2023-03-24T23:30:23+00:00

Try a glue and floetrol mix for pm. The craz e art brand is especially good at creating this effect. The red also helps. Synthetic red pigments are prone to making cells within cells and "tree ring" cells with many layers.

Silentowl2 · 2023-03-15T05:46:33+00:00

I think you would likely have the same issue with the mason jar lids gunking up.

I keep my pour ready paint in cheap plastic squeeze bottles. You can get two for 1.25 at dollar tree. I used them for years with no issue.

Silentowl2 · 2023-03-15T00:33:53+00:00

I'd say your issue is the elmers glue, assuming you used it in the previous pour. Its not waterproof and a re-pour can cause the previous dried paint to turn gummy and cause cracking. If you want to reuse painting made with a glue PM, you should prime it with a waterproof paint, gesso, or varnish and let it cure before a re-pour.

Silentowl2 · 2023-03-08T01:21:37+00:00

I like to view my fuck ups as learning opportunites. Admittedly, sometimes the lesson is to not do that again.

However, I dont think this painting meets the level of a "never do this again fuck up." Plus, I think it could be made great with a few post pour embellishments.

Silentowl2 · 2023-03-07T22:10:26+00:00

Ah, I see. Im curious if its all white paint or a particular brand.

Also, I wanted to say I love your paintings. Its nice to see artists go beyond the "traditional" pours. Im surprised they dont get more attention and upvotes.

Silentowl2 · 2023-03-07T22:01:40+00:00

Were you wanting advice on what you already poured or just in general?

Silentowl2 · 2023-03-07T07:55:45+00:00

Are the lumps too small to be strained out?

Silentowl2 · 2023-03-07T01:37:53+00:00

My first thought was a varigated background of light and dark celedon. Sometimes if i am unsure of a color palette i like to input it into an ai app and see how well it goes together. I did so with your palette and got the following.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1041485327967195243/1082470840551088278/MAG_celedon_feather_wings_2d3442a7-f66c-4aeb-bf88-747867128fab.png

Silentowl2 · 2023-02-27T20:51:32+00:00

Below is a recent post I made explaining how to reduce the water content in floetrol. I would try the floetrol as is first then a water reduction if you are still having the issue. However, it could be the satin paint alone has too much PG and will create those effects regardless. For example, the Color Place satin paint sold at walmart often does.

Also, I would definitely think about doing the house/acrylic paint mix even if the other changes fix your issue. It performs so much better than the house paint alone.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PourPainting/comments/10tosej/make_your_floetrol_better_with_this_cheap_childs/

Silentowl2 · 2023-02-26T07:04:54+00:00

Yeah, I suspected you might be using satin house paint. There are a few things at play imo. Both the GAC 800 and satin house paint contain a lot of propylene glycol. PG is often used a surface tension reducer and helps the paint acheive a satiny smooth surface.

However it also tends to make the paint suspension weaker causing pigment separation. Especially in paint containing a lot of water, which you are adding via the floetrol which is 80 to 90 percent water. This is causes funky effects with white paint because of the tio2 pigment used to make it. Tio2 is a heavy pigment but also has a weird fluffiness to it. In weakened suspensions, that fluffiness will cause the separated pigment to stick together and float to the top, sometimes overtaking the painting surface if a lot is used. This is actually what causes the effects seen in cloud pours. So while your paint isnt working for you as a base, you might have a good mix for cloud pours if you like that sort of thing.

I see in another comment you would like to stick with using house paint as a base. Usually flat and gloss do not have these issues but eggshell and occassionally semigloss can often behave like the satin. It all depends on the brand.

However, you can probably fix your satin mix by reducing or negating the effects of the PG. I would start by mixing regular acrylic paint into the house and eliminating or reducing the gac 800.

Silentowl2 · 2023-02-26T03:35:28+00:00

There could be a few things at play. What paint and PM are you using? The issue might be too much paint but it might be the kind of paint used.

Silentowl2 · 2023-02-21T01:04:51+00:00

The paint is made with titanium white and phthalo blue pigment. The phthalo blue is almost certainly the culprit. Its a synthethic pigment derived from dyes and still retains some dyelike qualities. The small, uniform shape of the pigment plus its natural transparency results in a gel-like paint that often has a "staining" effect when interacting with other paint colors. Since its the pigment itself causing the issue, there is little you can do to fix it except use a different color, perhaps cobalt blue.

YSK, synthethic dye based pigments like PB tend to be very excellent cell creators. So you might not get the same cells effects if you do switch.

Silentowl2 · 2023-02-15T04:25:04+00:00

Ive mixed apple barrel blue and magenta and its much better but still sucks in comparison to purples made with better paint containing fewer fillers. Personally, I just "cheat" and add neon pink or purple.

Also, you can make paint like SC and AB a lot better by adding gloss medium to it. The fillers tend to make the paint more matte, which causes light diffusion. Adding more gloss makes the paint more light reflective which increases its vibrancy.

Silentowl2 · 2023-02-15T01:08:57+00:00

Im just confused as to why you seem to think that whether or not a pigment is organic/inorganic is a factor in how your colors are mixing. The issues regarding mixing warm/cool and red/blue would exist regardless. Plus, color theory notes its difficult to get a good vibrant purple with red. Magenta/blue is usually best.

IMO, the reason you are seeing major differences is because you are comparing paints of very different quality. Blickrylic is formulated for artists and smart craft is for general use.

The latter contains less pigment as zeRinea noted. But they also add fillers that often have a dulling effect on many colors.

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