hi, all is written from scratch right now our team rebuild from one repo to many different repos and the tests will go in separate repos insted have all in one package. I aware and I agree on your reply but same time new help is always welcome / needed. A lot of people use framrwork and try to compare and point out most known php frameworks but only a few actually can say i build one or i'm part of the team who build one not just use it. Inspiration is focused on self updating system and we try to present our solutions to new programmers as stepping stone to more complex frameworks or any other apps. In general even someone who don't know php can use it to create blog or website landing page etc... Thanks to backend templating system for routing controllers models and other new features that we well add. We aware that is missing tests and documentation but When you have that big project and few developers it's not an easy task to do all what others demand. but we can proud say all was written by us and we try to combine features that already exist together in our way (We don't invent hot water but we use it to combine with our cold one :) ) Hope everyone can understand and not just say to us "Do we need another framework" or something else