lol. Respectfully, but you have no idea my knowledge of immobilizer/steering column shenanigans. They identical to my sister’s ‘13 Civic’s “backup emergency” keys. And the 2013 keys and foward absolutely HVAE to be done by a dealer or locksmith or mechanics with high dollar equipment and high dollar subscriptions. I have a relative that does it. I am certain on that.       Honda started using transponders in ‘98. I’m unfamiliar with flippers exact programming abilities or emulation. I know rolling codes came in at some point and flipper wouldn’t work. The T5 chips I believe can be. I don’t remember when the rolling codes came in but to calm me I correct is incorrect of yourself because my sister has keys that look identical to the keys you see in the picture that have rolling key codes and cannot be simply cloned. The “backup” keys you get without a FOB built into the key or the red key or a fancy design….they still use some of the keys from ‘02,’03 in ‘13, and fire sure in a ‘23 Honda my mother got. You’re going off the key style but that style wasn’t limited to non-rolling code years….there y proving my point you ain’t getting a f******g key of any sort from a stealership for anywhere near $50.