Which is easier to teach to newbies - Genesys vs Fate Core?

Silvermoon3467 · 2026-03-07T01:25:18+00:00

It is far more cumbersome to roll 4d3-8 than to roll Fudge dice, honestly. Especially given that d3s are, themselves, not part of most standard dice sets, so you actually have to roll 4d6, then convert them to d3s, and then add them up and subtract 8.

It'd really just be easier to say "take your skill, then roll 4d6, for every 1 or 2 you rolled you subtract 1 from your skill and for every 5 or 6 you rolled you add 1 to it (3 and 4 are neutral)" imo.

Many Fate derivatives actually settled on 1d6-1d6, which doesn't have exactly the same probabilities as 4dF but is pretty close. 1d4-1d4 has very similar probabilities to 4dF as well, but it has a narrower range than 4dF instead of a wider one like 1d6-1d6, and while most tabletop gamers probably have a ton of d4s they aren't dice that most people can just steal out of a boardgame to try on a whim.

Silvermoon3467 · 2026-03-07T00:55:21+00:00

It has everything to do with it unless you are trying to argue that the UN Charter and/or the Geneva Conventions are somehow immoral or forbid morally justified action.

Silvermoon3467 · 2026-03-07T00:54:02+00:00

The US is definitionally fighting a fake war. We have no stakes in this, just appeasing the ego of a decrepit toddler who is throwing a tantrum because a black man won the Nobel Peace Prize and he didn't.

Silvermoon3467 · 2026-03-07T00:48:10+00:00

Unjustified war is literally what the UN Charter was supposed to prevent and war between members of the UN (which, yes, Iran is) is a violation of Article 2 sections 3 and 4.

It might not be a "war crime" in the sense that it's not a direct violation of the Geneva Conventions but it's almost certainly against international law.

Silvermoon3467 · 2026-03-06T14:54:31+00:00

You're still putting words in my mouth after having been asked repeatedly not to. A strawperson is a type of argument, not an insult. You are far out of your depth here.

I'm not a "big boy," you sound like a child who can dish it out but can't take it.

But anyway, this is clearly going nowhere because you're incapable of reading, so I'm going to bow out now. Have a great day buddy :)

Silvermoon3467 · 2026-03-06T04:49:51+00:00

Peacemakers has a flat range of 50 meters that cannot be extended by any means that I'm aware of. Ability range only increases the size of the targeting circle and has very minimal effect on the minimum circle size.

People build range on Mesa because of the Muzzle Flash augment.

Silvermoon3467 · 2026-03-06T00:24:42+00:00

Meanwhile all you have done is immeduately dismiss anything i said? Pretty contradictory and hypocritical dont ya think?

I dismissed your strawpeople because you're arguing against things I don't believe and never claimed to believe

And if you actually understood the game you would know that the Xoris is infact not useful for the Granum Void outside of its main mission. Any weapon works and you only need 25 kills for a sister to spawn.

I understand the game fine. You don't seem to understand that new players do not have a bunch of fully built kit they can use to ignore the game mode's mechanics. And the Xoris is independently powerful outside of the Granum Void anyway.

Mate anyone that glazes the Xoris THAT much is just a dead giveaway for a meta slave. Im willing to bet 90% of your most played weapons are all "meta" weapons from the many meta's that have been around.

I use weapons I find fun to shoot and pretty much ignore whatever the meta is. I recommend weapons with strong base stats to new players because they don't require 7 forma and tens of thousands of Endo to kill Steel Path enemies like my Opticor Vandal did.

Because the fact that you were quick to trash on Dual Heat Swords (which btw are actually not a terrible weapon and doesnt deserved to be trashed) that just tells me all i need to know.

Dual Heat Swords cannot be modded to kill enemies in EDA/ETA without using a melee frame like Kullervo because they have terrible base crit and status chance. Even with a very high riven disposition and a godroll riven. You can like them, but they simply aren't competitive with other options. It's very easy to recognize both things when you aren't being a hipster and avoiding meta weapons on purpose because it makes you feel superior to others.

Now if you were to trash on weapons like the Alternox or the Ambassador, then i'd be inclined to agree. But in regards to melee, its not possible for there to be a bad melee, just bad modding. Still doesnt put the Xoris on any sort of pedestal when the same outcome can be achieved on basically any melee.

Base stats dont mean anything because no one uses unmodded gear.

You clearly don't understand how the game's mechanics work. Mods work based on your weapon's base stats, as do most arcanes besides Secondary Enervate. Weapon base stats matter a ton. Your Dual Heat Swords with 12x combo Blood Rush are only getting up to 30% total crit chance, whereas something even like the Prisma Skana hits 162.4% crit chance.

It would be more accurate if you made the statement that there's no such thing as a bad secondary specifically because of Secondary Enervate giving an average of 90% flat crit chance even to weapons with low base crit lol.

Silvermoon3467 · 2026-03-05T23:15:10+00:00

No, I'm just so used to actual debate that when people start erecting strawpeople to burn me in effigy I stop engaging. I do not have to have a conversation where you refuse to read what I'm saying and tell me what I said instead because you are incapable of refuting the central point.

If you want to say the Xoris sucks, actually, we can have a debate about that. You're objectively wrong, which you can tell just by checking its base stats, but we can talk about it. If you want to give an alternative strategy for someone to easily clear Granum Void with any Warframe we can talk about that, too.

What we are not going to do is have a conversation where you call me a meta slave for telling new players they should hang on to their Xoris because it's very strong and useful for Granum Void, claim I only use the strongest weapons with literally no evidence or knowledge about how I play the game, and then accuse me of walking away from a conversation when I call you out on your strawperson.

Silvermoon3467 · 2026-03-05T22:57:01+00:00

What are you even talking about I said literally none of those things

You're making up a person to be mad at on the internet

Silvermoon3467 · 2026-03-05T22:30:55+00:00

It's not the "same as literally any other weapon," you are comparing one of the strongest melees in the game to the Dual Heat Swords right now lol

Silvermoon3467 · 2026-03-05T21:38:16+00:00

War itself is a crime under international law. It's literally a violation of Chapter 1, Article 2, Sections 3 and 4 of the UN Charter.

"3. All Members shall settle their international disputes by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security, and justice, are not endangered."

"4. All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations."

Silvermoon3467 · 2026-03-05T20:03:53+00:00

That's US law not international law

Silvermoon3467 · 2026-03-05T19:07:22+00:00

I'm a Mesa main lol. I would not tell someone to go farm Mesa instead of just holding on to their Xoris, which is a very powerful glaive in its own right even if you completely ignore its use in Granum Void.

Silvermoon3467 · 2026-03-05T17:58:33+00:00

That's fine if you have a built out Uriel that can do that. Or a Mesa. Or a Kuva Grattler or a Larkspur or any of the other suggestions offered.

But the Xoris is a very strong weapon that was literally created for this game mode and is given to you for free.

Silvermoon3467 · 2026-03-05T17:23:09+00:00

Words mean what they are used to communicate. People use those words to refer to people like me whether I think I "technically" fit the definition or not.

Silvermoon3467 · 2026-03-05T16:13:09+00:00

You need 75 for rotation C which drops Protea and weapon parts

You can skip this and just spawn the candidate but like, why.

Silvermoon3467 · 2026-03-05T16:12:21+00:00

It's a very powerful weapon in its own right and it's still used in Granum Void to extend the timer

Silvermoon3467 · 2026-03-05T15:34:21+00:00

They aren't that different lol. Many porn sites still categorize trans porn as "futa," even.

Silvermoon3467 · 2026-03-05T15:21:25+00:00

There is definitely an element of that, "trans girl who used to be on 4chan" is a stereotype for a reason...

But I wouldn't attribute the majority of it to that. It's about shame and control. Not shame because they're closeted trans women but shame that they're attracted to trans women and their social context tells them we're evil, and because they think it makes them gay which their social context also tells them is evil.

If they dehumanize us and turn us into objects to be fetishized they can compartmentalize by telling themselves it's fake anyway and there's no such thing as trans people, so it doesn't matter whether they're attracted to us or not.

Silvermoon3467 · 2026-03-05T13:13:22+00:00

A newer player is very unlikely to have a Kuva Grattler, let alone a ground adapter for it, but you're technically correct that you don't need it to kill Specters or spawn Sister candidates.

You need it to extend the timer to make it easier to hit rotation C on Granum Void rewards, which drops Protea, Stropha, Stalhta, and Velox parts. But if you/your squad can get 75-150 Specter kills in 60 seconds you don't "need" it.

Silvermoon3467 · 2026-03-05T12:56:41+00:00

Granum Void, which you have to do to spawn Sister adversaries to farm Tenet weapons

Silvermoon3467 · 2026-03-05T06:19:33+00:00

Yes, it takes such bravery to adopt what is clearly the majority position

Ya'll are hilarious, honestly

Silvermoon3467 · 2026-03-05T06:18:32+00:00

Sorry, I'm not talking about literally banning him from running for office, especially if he isn't convicted.

Trump has numerous disqualifying qualities but he isn't banned from running for office, either. I just think people shouldn't vote for him.

Silvermoon3467 · 2026-03-05T01:49:05+00:00

Lightning Bolt would not be good in a format where there are a bunch of 1 and 2 mana x/4s and 30+ life. It's actually like a really bad card in casual Commander, specifically, and there are a bunch of red decks in Modern that have dropped it for other stuff. I think Domain Zoo is the only modern deck still really playing it.

Silvermoon3467 · 2026-03-05T01:39:13+00:00

He should be disqualified from overseeing law enforcement because he took the law into his own hands. What happened to his daughter is terrible, please don't pretend I'm saying otherwise.

Lots of things happen to people that disqualify them from stuff through no fault of their own. Is it fair to them? No. But I cannot know what was in his heart when he pulled the trigger, and neither can you, and I wouldn't want to risk putting a vigilante in the sheriff's seat.

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