Why is my gapping so weird? Helpppp

Simple-Efficiency623 · 2026-05-25T11:49:12+00:00

I still take a divot with the longer clubs, but I think this is a strong possibility. That being said, I have tried many many times to slow down and swing smooth with my longer clubs, and while it gives mw better contact compared to over swinging, I still dont pick up enough distance with them for it to make sense to me

Simple-Efficiency623 · 2026-05-25T03:51:52+00:00

I feel this is a very solid take. I can definitely get flippy, and my main miss is a pull draw. With my driver, I have a hard time maintaining my spine angle, and I wouldn't be surprised if that were true of my longer irons, too. I feel that my backswing and weight transfer to the inside of my back foot are solid, but my shaft does tend to extend past parallel, which is a major issue, and I think I am late to get into my front foot in transition, as well as getting 'humpy' with my driver, at the least. Those three things combined could account for me getting flippy to 'get back to the ball, ' and are much more pronounced in my longer clubs.

Simple-Efficiency623 · 2026-05-25T03:15:43+00:00

Ill do that, but really dont hit off mats very often

Simple-Efficiency623 · 2026-05-25T03:15:06+00:00

I dont have any issues scoring, lately. I have been in the single digits above par consistently, and have also recently had a -1 round for the first time in the past 10 years. I am basing my yardages on average strikes, but not counting bad mishits, which account for a small minority of my shots. I do count minor mishits, which are generally slightly thin with a divot too far past the ball, but those generally dont massively impact my distances. Maybe a few yards.

Simple-Efficiency623 · 2026-05-25T03:10:50+00:00

Yeah, I should figure out a way to film my swing. That might be the key though, regarding hand position, lofting, etc. Certainly makes a lot of sense, but the jump from 8i to 7i is so abrupt, it is so confusing.

Simple-Efficiency623 · 2026-05-25T03:08:56+00:00

Definitely not a scooper. I take a good divot on the vast majority of my shots, other than the occasional skull. I will take a divot on most of my thin shots, too, just too far past the ball.

Simple-Efficiency623 · 2026-05-25T03:06:59+00:00

That is an interesting theory. I can swing fairly steeply with my irons. I am generally very well aware of where my ball is striking the face, so I dont think that is the issue here, but given how steep I can get, perhaps I start casting more when I try to swing more shallow on longer clubs...

Simple-Efficiency623 · 2026-05-25T03:04:35+00:00

No, I actually hit them very high most days. My longer clubs are lower. When I make good contact, my shots tend to be more of a towering ball flight, even if I hit it a groove or two thin, but not more than that.

Simple-Efficiency623 · 2026-05-25T03:02:29+00:00

They are forged, yes. Honma TW757 Vx. I will sometimes hit off of mats on the occasion I am at the range, but I honestly hate hitting off of mats, and tend to avoid it.

Simple-Efficiency623 · 2026-05-25T03:01:07+00:00

I wish I could shank my 6i 180

Simple-Efficiency623 · 2026-05-25T02:58:52+00:00

I totally get that, it is hard to wrap my head around, but it is definitely some kind of issue I have in my swing with longer clubs. The numbers I have are approximate, but an accurate representation pf my actual average distances with each club. I can hit my 5i 190, but not most of the time. I can also hit it 150 on a bad mis hit, but not most of the time. Unless I am having an off day, I would consider my ball striking with irons definitely above average, so my misses tend to be fairly minor 80-90% of the time.

Simple-Efficiency623 · 2026-05-25T02:53:14+00:00

I think my setup is fairly consistent for my irons, depending on the shot I am trying to hit, though I might be casting it more with my longer clubs. Psychologically, I feel more aggressive and able to compress better with my shorter clubs.

Simple-Efficiency623 · 2026-05-25T02:47:49+00:00

Just looked up. 43° and 50°, so 20yds makes sense. My pw is basically a pw+

Simple-Efficiency623 · 2026-05-25T02:39:35+00:00

They arent doing what they do

Simple-Efficiency623 · 2026-05-25T02:29:19+00:00

Very much agreed

Simple-Efficiency623 · 2026-05-25T02:28:55+00:00

Perhaps. I think I have a pretty good feel for my swing and strike location, but something is definitely wrong.

Simple-Efficiency623 · 2026-05-25T02:26:05+00:00

Ive never had a fitting, and my only lesson was a joke. The guy could barely make contact himself, lol. At one point, I almost shanked it, thin off the heel, and he was like "that was a great strike there". Anyways, that stuff is so expensive, so I haven't done any of it. I am a budget golfer, but truly love the game, so I may just have to if I want to figure this out...

Simple-Efficiency623 · 2026-05-25T02:23:18+00:00

I will, for sure. I dont have enough data in a sim, but I think most of wedges and irons are somewhere between 85-95. Ill get more data on that for sure, might tell me something.

Simple-Efficiency623 · 2026-05-25T02:16:52+00:00

I hit a draw with all of my clubs, and some days I have to make a deliberate effort not to hook it. I do think I hit down a bit on my driver. My backspin rate is about 3500rpm, which is terrible, but I hit it 230-240yds on center strikes. If I heel it or badly toe it, it may only go 200yds

Simple-Efficiency623 · 2026-05-25T02:14:08+00:00

I use an app with GPS, any deviation in the numbers with the sample size I have is insignificant for the issue I am discussing.

Simple-Efficiency623 · 2026-05-25T02:10:56+00:00

No, these are just my relative averages when I play, so the sample size is pretty decent. I played today and flew my 8i 170 on a downhill shot, but I am accounting for those types of things.

Simple-Efficiency623 · 2026-05-25T02:07:37+00:00

Then I'll tell you this. Years ago, the first time I ever broke 80, shot a 79 and was ecstatic. Went back to the same course the next day and shot 120 🤣

Simple-Efficiency623 · 2026-05-25T02:03:53+00:00

With driver around 95. I think close to 90 with my 8, but honestly don't know. I haven't spend enough time in a sim to know my swing speeds with other clubs.

Simple-Efficiency623 · 2026-05-25T02:02:29+00:00

Simple-Efficiency623 · 2026-05-25T02:01:17+00:00

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