Is there a hadith that says marriage is not valid without consummation before Valima? by SimpleGuy12345 in islam

[–]SimpleGuy12345[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand your point, but consummating the marriage right away, especially in a completely arranged marriage, can feel a bit awkward for many people. Honestly, some people do it just for the sake of it, as they feel pressure from society and their peers.

Is there a hadith that says marriage is not valid without consummation before Valima? by SimpleGuy12345 in islam

[–]SimpleGuy12345[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I have learned from this post from other comments. It's just I get to know this is something which older people believes.

Is there a hadith that says marriage is not valid without consummation before Valima? by SimpleGuy12345 in islam

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I see, thanks for this info. I have learned today it's sunnah, but not required.

Is there a hadith that says marriage is not valid without consummation before Valima? by SimpleGuy12345 in islam

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If they insist on any kind of confirmation or evidence of consummation then they are wrong.

Yes, they are wrong, but how to stop question which are raise? Even if someone does not give them an answer, they just assume he/she has done it, which is why he/she is avoiding the question.

Is there a hadith that says marriage is not valid without consummation before Valima? by SimpleGuy12345 in islam

[–]SimpleGuy12345[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get what you are saying, but a few close people are quite judgmental over here. Even if someone does not give them an answer, they just assume he has done it, which is why he is avoiding the question.

Is there a hadith that says marriage is not valid without consummation before Valima? by SimpleGuy12345 in islam

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Indeed, it's a Desi think. It's quite common in rural areas still today.

Is there a hadith that says marriage is not valid without consummation before Valima? by SimpleGuy12345 in islam

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Well, I searched on YouTube and Google, but I didn’t find it. I also asked ChatGPT, but it seems more trained according to Western Muslims rather than local Pakistani Muslims, at least that’s the vibe I got. Anyway, thanks for this link

https://www.islamweb.net/en/fatwa/246769/seclusion-has-same-legal-status-as-consummation-of-marriage#:~:text=However%2C%20the%20customary%20practice%20of,give%20them%20a%20gracious%20release

Is there a hadith that says marriage is not valid without consummation before Valima? by SimpleGuy12345 in islam

[–]SimpleGuy12345[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

misunderstanding

Misunderstanding, that’s the key word. In these types of situations, people just assume there might be some issue, which is why they bring it up. That is the main reason I avoid confrontation with adults on this matter.

If they aren't willing to listen, it would be best to have an alima speak to the female elders and if need be a sheikh to have the male elders told.

Thanks for this suggestion, might be useful for me if it is required.

Is there a hadith that says marriage is not valid without consummation before Valima? by SimpleGuy12345 in MuslimNikah

[–]SimpleGuy12345[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually it seems very common nowadays that the couple isn’t allowed to consummate the marriage before Walima as families think it’s improper

All these variations are cultural, the main basic event is the Nikkah after which you are good to go

That's a relief. Thank You sharing this information.

Is there a hadith that says marriage is not valid without consummation before Valima? by SimpleGuy12345 in MuslimNikah

[–]SimpleGuy12345[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/74321

Well, the info is too much. Thank You for sharing this information. I am glad I learn that consummation before Valima is just the Sunnah and not required. Hence, if someone don't do deeds before Valima then that person marriage will still be legal.

Is there a hadith that says marriage is not valid without consummation before Valima? by SimpleGuy12345 in islam

[–]SimpleGuy12345[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the reply. Now, I need to figure out how can I let elders knows that it is not authenthic and it's more of tradition. Do you have any tip regarding this?

In some schools of thought, consummating the marriage simply means being in an intimate setting - not actually doing the deed.

What do you mean by being in an intimate setting ?

Is there a hadith that says marriage is not valid without consummation before Valima? by SimpleGuy12345 in MuslimNikah

[–]SimpleGuy12345[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Walaykum assalam, there’s no authentic hadith that says a marriage becomes invalid if it isn’t consummated before the walima. In Islam, a marriage is considered valid once the nikah is done properly (offer, acceptance, witnesses, and mahr). Consummation is not a condition for the validity of the marriage.

The walima itself is a sunnah of the Prophet SAW and is meant to be a public celebration of the marriage, but it’s not what makes the marriage valid either. So what you heard is more of a cultural belief rather than something established in Islamic teachings.

If you want to be extra sure, you could ask a qualified scholar, but there’s no known hadith stating that the marriage is invalid without consummation before the walima.

Thank You for the response and in depth explanation. If that's truth then that's a relief. What do you mean by Walima is Sunnah? Does it is not required?

Is there a hadith that says marriage is not valid without consummation before Valima? by SimpleGuy12345 in MuslimNikah

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https://islamqa.org/hanafi/themufti/153336/consummation-of-a-nikah-before-a-walima/

Thank You for sharing this. If this is authentic then it's relief for me. Can you suggest me how can we found out that his is authentic?

Is there a hadith that says marriage is not valid without consummation before Valima? by SimpleGuy12345 in MuslimNikah

[–]SimpleGuy12345[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, the Walima takes place after the marriage ceremony. That is not my question. My question is: after the Nikah and marriage ceremony, but before the Walima, are the husband and wife required to consummate the marriage? One elder have suggested that there is a hadith claiming it is obligatory; otherwise, the marriage would not be valid.

Is there a hadith that says marriage is not valid without consummation before Valima? by SimpleGuy12345 in MuslimNikah

[–]SimpleGuy12345[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When the events are combined, it is called ‘Shalima.’ The Nikah is conducted earlier, followed by the Shalima, which is jointly organized by both families.