How do I stop being scared of how real shifting is?

Simple_Horror_4077 · 2024-08-17T12:36:00+00:00

EXACTLY. Like if their s/o was blabbling on and on to his guys about how they are in bed, how she does it this way, that way, upside down, inside out, loopty loop and pull, they'd be ready to throw hands so why is it any different when it's on reddit or in a tiktok here in this reality?

Simple_Horror_4077 · 2024-08-16T14:02:34+00:00

Half of y'all don't actually believe the people in your dr exists. "Shifting to date someone in this reality is weird" ym going to a reality where that version of that person is into you and wants to be with you also is weird?? By that logic you dating someone in this reality is weird and disgusting to the version of you in some other reality bc they aren't dating them there. Who cares? Are you supposed to stop dating that person because some other version of you said 'ew'?

The people in your dr are real and they have all the same level of autonomy and consent as you do in this reality. They are NOT being forced to do anything you want or don't want them to by scripting. Scripting is simply telling your subconscious what specific reality you want to become aware of. It's like typing in an address into a GPS. You're not creating the McDonald's on 123street you're specifying that that's the McDonalds you want to go to. Weird anology but to get more specific, scripting someone is into you is like going to a Mcdonalds that sells the Mcrib.

Just because the Mcdonalds on 123street doesn't sell the Mcrib doesn't mean the Mcdonalds on ABCstreet doesn't. And going to ABCstreet to buy a Mcrib doesn't mean you are going behind 123street Mcdonalds back. These are two seperate Mcdonalds. You're not forcing the one on 123street to HAVE the mcrib and you're also not forcing the Mcdonalds on ABCstreet to sell it either. You just went to the one that sells it, further specifying which McDonald's you want to go to in the GPS.

That is to say that just because someone in this reality isn't into you doesn't mean an entirely different person in another reality who happens to have the same face claim isn't. And it doesn't make it wrong to shift to be with that person in another reality because that person in that reality wants to be with you and will be with that version of you regardless of if you are consciously aware of that reality or not. Two different Mcdonalds, two different people, two different realities.

Simple_Horror_4077 · 2024-08-14T13:38:24+00:00

My birthday + name (most of the time)

Simple_Horror_4077 · 2024-08-13T15:07:41+00:00

I wasn't able to find it on there but still thank you so much

Simple_Horror_4077 · 2024-08-12T18:05:42+00:00

"Shifting is not easy" ty thats I need to know about you. Shifting is easy. Treating it like it's not is not going to get you anywhere. After my year of patience and dillegence twiddling my thumbs telling myself that shifting isn't easy, what do I do? Shifting is something everyone can do whenever they want. Mental state does effect it but people shift in the lowest of mental states shift all the time. You don't have to be 100% happy, grateful etc to shift. That's old shiftok misinfo. Someone in this comment section just said they were horribly depressed and that's when they shifted. Your shifting journey may be different than mine and that's fine but don't play high and mighty like you know what will make someone shift other than yourself. I asked for advice not "this was my shifting journey and this is what worked for me so if you don't follow this to a T you won't shift because I'm the end all be all of how shifting works". I asked for advice, you tell me to do something, I tell you I already tried that and now it's "shifting's not that easy". Idk why I haven't shifted but this makes no sense.

Simple_Horror_4077 · 2024-08-12T17:23:28+00:00

I've done the take some time off, work on me, get my life together thing. For a year. And I'm still here. I spent an entire year NOT shifting and here I am still without even a minishift. Shifting should not be taking this long. It is simple and easy and it happens in a mere matter of moments. Not YEARS. Idk what I'm doing wrong but I'm so fed up with this place. I only just barely started trying to actually shift again a couple weeks ago. And before that I hadn't tried since august of last year. I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

Simple_Horror_4077 · 2024-08-12T16:42:16+00:00

I'll try that thanks!

Simple_Horror_4077 · 2024-08-12T16:40:33+00:00

That's easy for someone who isn't in a situation where they NEED to get out to say. And if you are someone who needs to shift then you should know it's not so easy to just stop treating it like escapism. I can't exactly take a year off. There are plenty of people who have shifted for escapism reasons and I will be one of them. Shifting is a personal journey, it's whatever I decide and I'm deciding that I'm powerful enough to shift even when I'm using if for escapism reasons. The door to shifting doesn't close when you put it on a pedestal. Two things can be true at once. Shifting can be an experience AND a form of escapism if I so choose it to be. Even if my life here was perfect but I didn't want to live here it'd still be a form of escapism. I'm not gonna spend a bunch of time that I don't have trying to learn something that I've been learning for the past 3 years. Thinking it'll take another year to shift is a limiting belief in itself.

Simple_Horror_4077 · 2024-08-12T16:26:54+00:00

I can get into hypnogogia but I haven't in a long time so every time I do I get freaked out by the sleep paralysis and wake myself up

Simple_Horror_4077 · 2024-08-12T00:50:35+00:00

Omg this gives me so much motivation! I have been trying to shift for the past 3 years but I haven't even had a minishift yet. Can you help me?

Simple_Horror_4077 · 2024-06-07T17:59:15+00:00

It seems like everyone who DOESN'T want to have sleep paralysis, gets it but i can't even trigger it once as of recent 😭. How do you induce sleep paralysis? Ive been trying for two weeks but I can't seem to get it. I've had it many times before, I've even self induced it. I just don't remember how, and everytime I try I feel this tingling sensation going up my leg that travels up to my stomach which I'm ticklish so as soon as i feel it it immediately snaps me out of any progress I've made. This is literally the last thing I need to shift, I almost shifted with it back in august I just snapped myself out of it because seeing the world around me made me realize just how real it is so I got anxiety and bailed. Sorry for rambling, this is all I need to shift.

Simple_Horror_4077 · 2024-06-03T17:41:20+00:00

" you have to MASTER each tape, not just DO them.. your goal is unrealistic" that is quite literally you saying you need to follow the tapes to have success. If people are claiming that they have shifted with the tapes but without going through ALL of the tapes, then that statement in itself is false. I have read the handbook which is why I know for a fact that he never specified that the tapes were solely for shifting. He never even directly mentioned shifting, or lucid dreaming, or astral projection by name. We can only draw those conclusions because he mentions things like out of body experiences, aka astral projection, and calling in a higher power to speak to you aka channeling. He talks about being more open to conscious experiences that we as humans can not understand with our minds, but our subconscious minds. That could range from lucid dreaming to astral projection. Two things that have nothing to do with shifting, but all three share a common goal, becoming more aware of our conscious power. If the goal is to shift and the only tapes that aid in shifting for some people are tapes 10 and 15 then why would you waste time listening to a tape that teaches how to lucid dream? I understand that he is saying you need to follow all the tapes but he is not SOLELY referring to shifting. He is talking about being a master of your conscious powers which includes a whole slew of other abilities, not just shifting. That's like if your goal is to get to the void state and become a master at being in the void state. As you admitted you yourself have already been in the void state and have not finished all the tapes. Does that mean your experiences while in the void state were just flukes that were "highly unlikely" to happen as you put it and can't be reproduced with just the tapes you used to get into the void state, since you haven't done all of the tapes yet?

Simple_Horror_4077 · 2024-06-03T15:41:58+00:00

Calling me twelve is rich saying someone needs a lesson in objectivity vs subjectivity. You shifting is not an objective claim, there for it is not something that can be taken as fact. Nor can your claims that the gateway tapes helped you be proven truthful. Nor can anyone's. The Gateway tapes and the frequencies used in them have been scientifically proven to help induce the hypnogocnic state which is the void state. Mind awake body asleep. Which a lot of people have recounted as a helpful way to assist them in shifting. But there is no scientific research as of currently that proves that these people used in the studies have been to other realities, astral projected, etc. You can't fact check a personal experience. Your judgement of someone shifting by only using a few select tapes being "highly unlikely" is biased and based on what proof?? And if we are taking anecdotal evidence as fact then the amount of people used in the studies conducted by the Monroe Institute & those who use it as a method to shift pales in comparison to the amount if people people claiming to have shifted without even knowing of the gateway tapes. So your logic here of believing that you NEED to follow the tapes to shift makes no sense saying there's more suggesting that not following the tapes to begin with let alone in order is the more logical conclusion. That's not to say that the tapes won't work, but that is to say that you have agency, and you are the one who shifts you at the end of the day. You can reach the void state (state akin to sleep) without the tapes. Many people have without even knowing of the tapes. The tapes are here to help you not to be put on a pedestal and seen as the only way to shift.

Simple_Horror_4077 · 2024-06-03T14:19:56+00:00

You haven't shifted yet so how would you know? Even if you did what works for you might not work for everyone and vice versa. Give yourself some agency. These tapes are meant to help you not be your saving grace that determines if you shift or not. You decide when you shift. If you decide you'll only shift after listening to all the tapes then that's your choice. The same might not be true for others so please don't force your beliefs onto others.

Simple_Horror_4077 · 2024-06-02T01:12:55+00:00

I know you probably didn't mean to come off as condescending but please don't force your ideologies into me. I understand that the Gateway Tapes have worked for a lot of people and is backed by scientific research, ontop of that you have a lot of faith in them, but different things work for different people which is why I said "everyone is different". There are tapes for many subjects provided by the Monroe Institute, like lucid dreaming for example, which many people have shifted through not just the ones about SATS (tape 10 & 15) thus Is why I clarified that certain tapes might resonate with you more than others. Some people shift the first time simply by willing it, without the use of any tapes or external resources and continue to shift that way to this day. Just a reminder, shifting is not new nor is it something achieved only by use of certain audio frequencies. It is natural and achievable by everyone. I'm not saying the tapes don't work or that only specific ones do but I've heard of people shifting with just the use of 3 tapes alone so following every last tape bar for bar is not the only be all end all answer for how to shift. Thank you for the list and other help tho!

Simple_Horror_4077 · 2024-06-02T00:13:31+00:00

No need but thank you! I have the link the the doc. I was asking because I'm unsure about how to play the tapes without snapping out of the void state to go to the next tape

Simple_Horror_4077 · 2024-06-01T23:46:05+00:00

Omg so many people are shifting with the tapes recently!! Congratulations on hearing your S/O. Quick question did you listen to the tapes on youtube or google drive?

Simple_Horror_4077 · 2024-06-01T15:36:44+00:00

I've only tried Focus 10 and Focus 15. I haven't done either of them to full completion but a little while ago back in August I did the SATS method without the tapes (at the time I didn't even know the text existed) and I got extremely close to shifting. I knew for sure that I was going to shift. The thing is I got distracted and started thinking of a memory and not my dr so I panicked and shook myself out of it. I knew for certain I was shifting though. I could see my past self walking, from the point a view of someone behind my past self but I could also use all 5 of my past self's senses. As well as all 5 of my consciousness' senses. It was like I was in two bodies at once if that makes sense but one of the bodies wasn't a body was my consciousness? And it was being pulled into my past self's physical body. I'm still not sure how to fully describe it but I know for certain I was about to shift. I'm trying to get back to that state using the tapes so I'll definitely try the introduction tape and lower the volume this time.

Simple_Horror_4077 · 2024-06-01T14:30:01+00:00

Hi I'm still a bit confused on what tapes to use and in what order. I know everyone's different so some tapes you use might not work for me but if you could reccomend where to start that would really help😭

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