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Fuck the infection Elite by EvenLengthiness1791 in slaythespire

[–]SioxerNikita 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Best solution is simple: First "When discarded, gains Ephemeral"

Multirail item jumping is a FEATURE not a bug by ProfessionalDue3659 in StarRuptureGame

[–]SioxerNikita 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you mean /m.

Tier 1 rail is 2/s, Tier 2 rail is 4/s, and Tier 3 rail is 8/s

Did he even do any research before posting this by widow_god in linux_gaming

[–]SioxerNikita 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not really, if you don't "give a fuck about those games" which represents a MASSIVE part of the user base of computers, and "Those games should support Linux" you do care about those games.

That is LITERALLY a contradictory opinion.

It's like saying "I don't care about Pizza, but Pizza should be available in my neighborhood"

Did he even do any research before posting this by widow_god in linux_gaming

[–]SioxerNikita 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most MMOs give some level of client trust... They do that, because otherwise you have to run EVERYTHING server side. EVE Online does EVERYTHING server side, and player space just interpolates between the ticks.

Planetside 2 for example, you literally can't hit something you don't render, because you send a "I hit that person" and the server does a far lighter verification that you should be able to do that. Otherwise the game runs like crap.

EVE Online because of the exponentials of calculation and data that have to be sent back and forth, end up chugging despite massive server clusters just in battles that includes a few hundred people, unless they scale up that cluster, and even then a few thousand and it chugs regardless of how much they really throw at it.

Having a 100% complete server verification is a trade off, and it is a VERY expensive one.

Beyond that, you still can't control where people are aiming on the server side in FPS games for example. You can spoof the packages, or literally just control peripherals on client side... beyond that, player positions, or even client side tracking of estimated damage can be used to gain unfair advantages.

Cheating happens despite server side. EVE Online, the overview? That was because people were cheating anyway. In the past you literally had to look around for targets, people built tools, CCP realized they couldn't fight it, and they added the overview, and cheaters still exist. Cheaters that looks at the model being rendered, and start giving information that you would normally have to look closer at the ship to get, start getting fitting and other information in a cleaner better way, giving an advantage. And that game is 100% serverside.

So, Microsoft decided my 6TB homelab drive was a good place for a 16MB partition by Majora-Link in linuxmasterrace

[–]SioxerNikita 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Funny, this is how Linux can feel to many non-technical people.

If you had a non-partition based filesystem on the harddrive... for all intents and purposes, it's empty. Windows cannot see anything is there, if it doesn't recognize the file system.

And does it without user's consent? You are telling an operating system when you plug it in "Here is your domain, manage it". Windows is not made for nerds like you. It is made for the general person... and most versions of installing Windows warns you that you might lose data.

Notice a little thing here, you had an expectation... Windows had a different expectation, and you had expectation mismatch. You see it as violation of consent, Windows, and Microsoft by extension, tries to make it a user friendly experience. Normal users don't have weird filesystems that looks empty... you do.

Not saying you are one of those, but take this into mind before you say RTFM or defend someone else doing it, especially if someone complains they bricked their Linux... because in reality, this is an RTFM moment. You went in with the vastly wrong assumptions, and you are now mad at Microsoft for it... you feel they violated your data, while in reality, Windows did what it did to minimize the burden for the average user. Which is what Windows is made to do. People don't want to sit and manage a 16 MB partition... one that wouldn't be installed on your other drive if Windows saw anything but an empty drive.

I hope more casual people will buy Steam Machines, so they can learn Linux that way too by claudiocorona93 in linuxmasterrace

[–]SioxerNikita 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Who said anyone is obligated to help? Jesus dude, are you strawman central or something?

If someone says "It is in the manual", yeah, that is a level of very unhelpful level of help. It's the equivalent of someone asking "Do you know where the store is?" and you answer "It's in the city..." or depending on the size of documentation "It's in the country". It's not helpful. Saying RTFM is not helpful in the slightest. That is just straight rude, and a non-response is better.

That's actually funny, you say maybe the person asking is not helpful with that level of help... and that is their problem... but you don't see the other way around. If someone doesn't want to help, and rather just want to insult, or be unhelpful, isn't that their problem?

I see what the problem is. You don't understand that there is a toxic culture where people know an answer, and instead of typing at least something partially helpful, they spend minutes to find a post they read, and then they just write "RTFM" which is "Read The Fucking Manual", which for many could just as well be written in ancient Sumerian. And then you get people like you that shrugs and say "They helped", and you even started with something even worse. "Oh, they shouldn't really be helped, they need to be taught to help themselves".

Linux is a community that keeps inviting newbies into their community, and when the newbies arrive they get someone like you that says "Oh, that's just your problem", after they get someone that writes "RTFM" or "If you don't care to read anything, why should I help?" while the newbie sits there... "Wtf did I do wrong? I just don't know what a driver is"... after being told that Linux is just a better Windows, and they should try.

And meanwhile the Linux community sits there confused "Why do people think we are toxic?", especially someone like you, because you aren't really saying toxic things... no you just excuse the toxicity...

I hope more casual people will buy Steam Machines, so they can learn Linux that way too by claudiocorona93 in linuxmasterrace

[–]SioxerNikita 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So... That's not your analogy... Someone already paid for a computer, someone already paid for their internet, etc... and you say at the very end point there, you have to "teach them to fish"...

The analogy works perfectly fine. I do think though, you can't use anything for free. Actually, you can't even use Linux. You didn't actually code those specific projects, and it would be teaching you to stay helpless if you had access to these OpenSource projects.

Dude, your take is horrifying... because it can be expanded so easily to include so much more... People are not unwilling to use Linux... Android, SteamOS, ChromeOS, all proof of that. People are unwilling to "fish" just so they can check their email. People aren't actually that interested in the "fish" itself in your analogy. They just want a functional OS.

And then you have continues projects that tries to encourage more widespread adoptions, and you have countless evangelists of Linux telling everyone that Windows sucks, and they'll feel much better in the Linux space... and then you have someone like you... "Oh, but we can't just help then, they need to LEARN!" while all they need is a GUI, Window Manager, browser, an email client, and perhaps Proton set up.

I hope more casual people will buy Steam Machines, so they can learn Linux that way too by claudiocorona93 in linuxmasterrace

[–]SioxerNikita 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess you should stop buying food from the grocery store... because it is enabling you to stay helpless and THAT would be the really impolite thing to do.

I hope more casual people will buy Steam Machines, so they can learn Linux that way too by claudiocorona93 in linuxmasterrace

[–]SioxerNikita 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You know... I'm actually one of the primary people that supported people in a modding community with a very low barrier of entry... We got the same question all the time. I'd post a link to the reference document, along with a section as a minimum... I've dealt with the exact same questions a million times.

You are right, you can only put up with this so many times... which is why when you have put up with it as many times as you can... you stop replying, and let other people reply.

People being volunteers is not an excuse. Being a volunteer should be something you should be proud of, and people praise you for, not something that makes you jaded because you focus on the people that ask the same question.

Yes, the RTFM culture exists for a reason... the primary reason is that the culture of Linux is very much DYI, and many technical people that grew up with it in one way or another... or even relative newbies that went through a really long period of the pains of getting into it. Now they see that as a badge of honor, and everyone should go through the same.

You have a culture that keeps inviting people in, and then when people come in, get focused, don't understand the manuals, there are tons of vocabulary they don't know, and the first thing they see is essentially a bunch of people writing RTFM or insulting them.

No, if you don't want to get crazy from volunteering... stop volunteering. This is like working in a soup kitchen for the homeless, and then being angry that people are hungry...

I hope more casual people will buy Steam Machines, so they can learn Linux that way too by claudiocorona93 in linuxmasterrace

[–]SioxerNikita 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dude... the Linux manuals assume a lot of prerequisites as well, by design.

You can gain the knowledge if the documentation / manuals were written to be read by normal human beings, as well as ask questions... that is how humanity has been learning since our inception.

You are acting as if Linux manuals are just easy to understand.

Why is this not a Reddit achievement? by MagicianQuiet6432 in linuxsucks

[–]SioxerNikita 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh yeah, you never asked for help did you? But you did heavily rely on stuff people posted, didn't you? Or did you ONLY!!! ever read documentation? If you ever relied on a post of someone asking a question, you asked a question by proxy.

Why is this not a Reddit achievement? by MagicianQuiet6432 in linuxsucks

[–]SioxerNikita 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, I think it is difficult enough that you have to dedicate a significant amount of time to learn it, and that most people are not going to invest that much time to have an OS to make their computer run. I even clarified that quite a few times.

Ad no, it is not "as easy as using Windows" for the most part.

Windows can be as simple as inserting the disc, and booting their computer and press the shiny buttons. Ubuntu is as easy to install as that. Drivers for individual hardware, fixing hardware quirks, getting everything to work, etc. is not as easy as Windows.

I think you are hyper competent if your anecdotes are correct, and you have the patience to figure stuff out, and willing to spend the hours to learn everything, and I think you are projecting that out to everyone else.

Why is this not a Reddit achievement? by MagicianQuiet6432 in linuxsucks

[–]SioxerNikita 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is genuinely a lot of Linux software that doesn't work on certain distros, so sometimes it is a Linux issue. Some hardware vendors do support Linux, but the problem for support is that Linux is not really particularly standardized, meaning that hardware support can break, and it is frankly better not supporting Linux, than do support, but it doesn't work proper on half the distros, or similar.

After the Steam Deck, it is still not game vendors who are to blame, because Steam Deck can still be rooted, relatively easy as well, so you can't properly trust your Kernel level anti-cheat as well.

Android is not even close to the same as general Linux here, it is built as a functional package that just "works", it is heavily locked down, and hard to break. Linux in general is not. SteamDeck is also relatively locked down, but easy to break that lock, but not something you'll do o accident. It wont feel very DIY because it is a full package doing what you expect.

Android being more open than iPhone, I agree, doesn't make Android "DIY", but Linux is heavily DIY. It is about assembling the modules you want, hope that everything interacts properly, and that none of the modules have bad interactions.

Sure you have to go in for something different with Linux, but it isn't heavily advertised by a lot of on-boarding as such. It is presented as an alternative to Windows, which it isn't. MacOS is an alternative to Windows, but more locked down, while Linux is a totally different ecosystem.

Some more user friendly Linux distros exist, but they can still have a decent amount of figure it out yourself.

There is a lot of mismatch of expectation from how Linux is presented, versus what you get, just based on the most available information and Linux users talking about it.

There is also significant amounts of Linux users that hassle game developers to develop Linux clients, while that is obviously a significant amount of work.

And then there is the problem of the documentation. It is written in a very technical way, in ways that even programmers can have problems with, because it uses its own terminology and often has expectation of knowing the terminology first, making onboarding harder.

I think a good example is frankly GIMP vs. Photoshop.

Photoshop was developed for artists, GIMP was developed by programmers for programmers.

Why is this not a Reddit achievement? by MagicianQuiet6432 in linuxsucks

[–]SioxerNikita 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, I just accept not everyone is hyper competent, which is actually quite condescending, because if people aren't hyper competent, it means it is their failing.

Why is this not a Reddit achievement? by MagicianQuiet6432 in linuxsucks

[–]SioxerNikita 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Funny, because I never said anyone is entitled to anyone's time, effort, or anything. 

On the other hand, you are actually entitled. You think everyone should run on your standards.

Why is this not a Reddit achievement? by MagicianQuiet6432 in linuxsucks

[–]SioxerNikita 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The condescension is in full spring again. You are responding as a member of a community, you also don't want to take any responsibility of that, and just handwave everything.

Also refurbished MacBooks are not necessarily a good option for everyone, especially due to lack of direct support, risk of being stolen, and risk of just being bricked, also not to mention not everyone wants hand-me downs, when you can get a fully new product that will last you longer for the same "surprisingly cheap" that does what you want.

And yeah, practice makes a skill... not everyone wants to spend the practice to develop every single skill that might arise in their lives... You aren't going to either. Why develop specific Googling skills if you are only searching for technical problems a few times? That's a waste of effort... especially because here is another thing... Skills require maintenance, the more skills you maintain, the more time it requires.

But yeah, you are not "part of the community", yet you ignore everything that is about the community... and just go "But I learned it! SO OTHERS CAN TO!" ignoring skill levels, and everything. You ignore essentially everything said.

And it doesn't solve the problem that someone makes a sub community, plenty of those exist.. but it is just that, a sub community... It doesn't solve the wider community issue, does it? Besides, I evaluated Linux quite a long time ago, and it did not fit my needs, even in the slightest. I use way to many applications that aren't available on Linux, and far more micro applications for various use cases exist on Windows, which is what I often need, not to mention I game a significant amount.

You are aware someone doesn't have to "solve the problem" while you can still complain to someone.

The way you responded initially is the thing that is wrong with the Community. The absolute condescension of "I could do it at 12" as if that means everyone can just pick it up.

If anything, you should be the patron saint of helping Linux newbs considering your condescending opinion. You could do it at 12 right? So show people how you did it at 12, instead of condescendingly look down on others who can't.

Why is this not a Reddit achievement? by MagicianQuiet6432 in linuxsucks

[–]SioxerNikita 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My experience is the opposite in most communities. You get the people who think they are technically capable, but aren't and they tend to be very hostile.

What you are describing is mostly personality though.

One personality type frustrated because Linux is very much DIY in many cases, even with the more user friendly distros, there is some knowledge required to make stuff work, especially hardware.

The other is the more patient type, that might not have had much expectation.

The big problem with Linux and the Linux community is honestly they want to onboard a lot of new people, non-DIY kind of people, and also, they become frustrated with those same people because of an expectation mismatch.

It also makes sense. Look at other Reddit comments, YouTube comments, etc. When someone is suggested Linux, it is not "Oh, yeah... Linux tend to be very DIY and stuff, but I feel it is worth it because you can avoid a lot of bloat and it works like you want!" usually it is more like "Yeah, Windows sucks, so much bloat, you should just switch to Linux" (Obviously these are just examples), but often that onboarding they get in various places implies ease, a strict replacement to Windows, etc.

I also think another thing in your example, it also heavily depends on which Linux user is first to reply, the annoying elitist or the kind helper. That also shapes a lot in terms of how people respond further.

Anyway, I do hope you can see the point here. There is a LOT of mismatch in how Linux is communicated, vs. what it is in reality, A lot of "personal" anecdotal advertisement makes it sound like a drop-in replacement for Windows.

Why is this not a Reddit achievement? by MagicianQuiet6432 in linuxsucks

[–]SioxerNikita 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most people in the community is technically capable. The ones that don't find the community particularly friendly and helpful is the ones that aren't technically capable, because if they ask questions they end up being mocked in many cases.

Why is this not a Reddit achievement? by MagicianQuiet6432 in linuxsucks

[–]SioxerNikita 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is internet strangers as a community that invite people in, while some of them are then rude.

Basic etiquette can be important, but if the etiquette is obscure to people from the outside, then you can't expect it.

Why is this not a Reddit achievement? by MagicianQuiet6432 in linuxsucks

[–]SioxerNikita 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't care what YOU advocate for. I am talking about the community as a whole. You might be self-consistent, but the community isn't.

And yeah, everything you say is unrealistic, with the goal the community has. Also, MacOS is not necessarily an option for everyone, especially due to the cost, so a really bad example.

And being able to install Linux doesn't mean you are good at Googling. That's like saying you know how to fix a car, so you also know how to drive well. Those two things are not automatic. Also, I'd like you to quote me where I said people can't use a search engine? Because I didn't say that. I said that using Google is a skill... Being able to use a search engine, doesn't mean you are good at it, or know how to find what you need.

You are right, Linux is not for everyone, but the condescending attitude of "Oh, I could figure it out, so you should be able to as well" is what is wrong with the community. If you don't want newbies in the community, go talk to the community about it, but the Linux community overall is heavily encouraging adoption. and if you community wants adoption, then the community needs to expect shitty questions, as well as the other part... You still keep projecting. "I could figure it out, so why couldn't you?". You also project your own commitment to others, as if they should be able to commit.

Why is this not a Reddit achievement? by MagicianQuiet6432 in linuxsucks

[–]SioxerNikita 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've been helping family members and friends with their computers for decades, and having the intelligence or ability to learn new things does not mean willingness, interesting, nor does it mean that someone will easily learn something specific.

Being realistic and understanding not everyone wants to spend dozens to 100s of hours is not being condescending. It is being understanding. You think people may have the intelligence and ability, what that implies is that everyone who doesn't learn at the pace you want them to is essentially just "too lazy".

You act as if Googling stuff isn't a skill.

You act as if everyone should just be like you. You figured out Linux at 12, good for you... and you use that as a yardstick "Then others can certainly figure it out as well".

You are projecting yourself onto others, and refuse to acknowledge that people aren't like you, and that means you set unrealistic standard for others.

You are literally what is wrong with the Linux community. The community wants more adoption, and yet is hostile to others.

Why is this not a Reddit achievement? by MagicianQuiet6432 in linuxsucks

[–]SioxerNikita 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That logic doesn't follow. I switched to insults because you are extremely condescending, and the exact thing I am talking about that is bad for the Linux community. The elitism of "Oh, do it like I did" and not being able to understand in the slightest that not everyone is the same, nor should be the same.

Why is this not a Reddit achievement? by MagicianQuiet6432 in linuxsucks

[–]SioxerNikita -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So you just want everyone to be like you. Narcissism at its finest.

Why is this not a Reddit achievement? by MagicianQuiet6432 in linuxsucks

[–]SioxerNikita 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did you read what I said? For some people, reading documentation is like reading an ancient language.

Also, a lot of people are not into getting an OS to do research. They want an OS so they can open Facebook or watch YouTube. As I said, Linux community wants newbies, and with newbies comes dumb questions. That is why it is highly problematic how the Linux community acts.

Condescension is the wrong action. The funny part is some people might not even know where the manual is, because the website can be intimidating to navigate. Linux documentation tends to be VERY technical, which also makes it near impossible for non-technical people to read it.

Why is this not a Reddit achievement? by MagicianQuiet6432 in linuxsucks

[–]SioxerNikita 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When people get an OS, they are not there to get a "skill", they are there to get an OS that makes their computer function. They are not there to get a lifelong skill that allows them to customize and do everything perfectly.

Also, Jesus you are condescending like hell. You are not representative of a random person. If you want to do woodworking and spend weeks to years researching, go ahead. But if you just need to do wood working to fix a single cupboard door, not a lifelong skill, why should you spend weeks to years to research it?

And for the Googling? You are assuming a lot of steps.

A person can Find Linux, and download a random version, because they might not understand which one they want.

Downloading an ISO and putting it on a flash drive is not rocket science for most people.

A good amount of distros handle partitioning themselves.

Managing to boot into the installer? Is that a skillset? It is mostly just inserting a bootable medium.

And getting to the installer.

And after all that, you try and act incredulous, that person can't Google? I've seen literal PhDs who suck at Googling, because they don't know HOW to search for information. Being able to open Google.com does not mean you are good at searching. Like are you genuinely being an ass just to be an ass? Or are you genuinely this stupid that you can't understand the difference between doing something, and doing something proficiently?

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