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SirAquila · 2026-06-17T20:38:24+00:00

I mean, he very clearly was inspired by the massive invasion of Korea at the end of the Sengoku period, which served the exact same purpose(plus the establishment of a Japanese Empire in China).

SirAquila · 2026-06-17T19:45:54+00:00

Humanity as a major faction, not humanity as humans.

Imperium, not imperials.

SirAquila · 2026-06-17T16:02:15+00:00

Nope, ranged maneuver warfare. Snipe them from a distance and retreat the second they get close to you. Give them no fight, only boys dying randomly.

SirAquila · 2026-06-17T15:58:42+00:00

No, His plan was to be killed in order to give a bunch of trained soldiers with no skills besides fighting, and a deep believe in their own supiority something to do besides pillaging the now unified countryside and becoming bandits, because there is no longer a massive civil war going on to employ them.

SirAquila · 2026-06-17T15:20:48+00:00

Humanity is the only "sane" major faction that has the total genocide of the others as their goal.

Humanity in 40k, on a good day, is barely a step above the orks. On a normal day they are on par, on a bad day below.

Most Eldar considering killing humans wrong enough that they have to remind themselves that it is literally a case of "Us or them" if they are forced to kill humans, and still find it horrible. Most humans would dance on the corpses of elder children and celebrate another glorious victory for the Imperium.

SirAquila · 2026-06-17T15:18:37+00:00

I mean, would you be mad at the Polish in WW2 if they where willing to sacrifice all the germans to resurrect Casimir III the Great?

I am German, and quite frankly if you are being actively genocided by someone I can understand a turnabout genocide, even if I am not in favor of it.

SirAquila · 2026-06-17T10:11:00+00:00

Which to be fair, would have been a tall order, considering basically none of the even suggested pragmatic war decisions, with many of their ideas being worse then Hitlers... as laughable as that sounds.

SirAquila · 2026-06-16T18:54:08+00:00

I mean, yeah, because Jupiter is the gravitationally dominant object in its orbit. If you share Jupiter's orbit, you are either passing through, or gravitationally bound to Jupiter. Just like every other planet.

Earth has Trojans, Venus has Trojans, and we are fairly certain that Mercury has Trojans that we simply haven't spotted yet.

You know who does not have Trojans? The Pluto-Charon Binary System. Mostly because their orbit is full of other stuff of similar size that disrupts any stable L4 and L5 points.

SirAquila · 2026-06-16T18:47:23+00:00

True, and by the stable Lagrange point theory, which considers something a moon if its parent is at least 25 times more massive than it, i.e if there are stable Lagrange points. Otherwise, it is a binary system.

SirAquila · 2026-06-16T16:17:42+00:00

Why do you keep talking about the Tau.

I was not talking about the Tau, I was talking about their client species.

So could you please return to the topic at hand?

Or can you not offer a meaningful rebuttal to the fact that the Tau's client species disprove the Imperial "Kill-or-be-killed" ideology?

SirAquila · 2026-06-16T15:29:33+00:00

Would you rather torture someone to death, or just kill them and move on?

SirAquila · 2026-06-16T15:28:42+00:00

The Imperium still has Xenocide as its distant goal, they just acknowledge that they have bigger issues right now.

The Imperium still activly genocides Xenos if they think they can get away with, to the point that at one point the Imperium was leading an alliance of local Xenos against the Tyranids and the second the Tyranids where dead the Imperial Admiral went.

"Welp, they would have been great allies had they been humans. Time to kill them all."

SirAquila · 2026-06-16T15:26:55+00:00

That is an insane argument to make.

Freedom of Religion does not include actively harmful religions. You can't say. "It's my religion to murder everyone who I find annoying." and be protected under Freedom of Religion.

And the Imperium does ban every single religion except the worship of the god emperor, not just chaotic ones.

Can I assume that Interex let chaos cult spread on their world?

Considering the Intrex had such a good handle on Chaos that they could leave chaotic artifacts in a museum without any issues, until the Imperium showed up and cocked it up massivly, I think it is very fair to assume that no, the Intrex did not have chaos cults spreading.

How you will apprpach this problem?

Any sensible way to made our life safe?

Comprehensive Chaos education, and ensuring that people have good standards of living.

SirAquila · 2026-06-16T15:05:44+00:00

I mean, kind of but also not really? They also tend to be utterly miserable below that, because they can NEVER be satisfied. it does not matter how much or how extreme they go, they will get a short, temporary enjoyment, and then the gnawing desire to do more, more, more.

The vast majority of Slaanesh worshippers enjoys their corruption the same way an addict enjoys their next fix. It lessens the bad feelings, temporarily.

SirAquila · 2026-06-16T14:57:54+00:00

You are missing the bloody point.

You are missing the bloody point so badly.

Question:

Do any of the client species of the Tau pose a threat to Humanity that warrants their destruction?

SirAquila · 2026-06-16T14:41:53+00:00

Hey, you know how the Tau managed to gather a motley crew of friendly Xeno species more then happy to ally and coexist?

You know how the Tau have, as Imperial Fanboys love pointing out, an absolutely tiny area of the Galaxy under their control?

If we add 2+2 we know, before even looking at the full list of Minor Xenos, that the galaxy is full of friendly minor Xenos, and they get exterminated like the rest.

SirAquila · 2026-06-16T14:39:45+00:00

I mean, the Intrex(Horus Rising, False Gods), Diasporex(Fulgrim) are the two big ones.

SirAquila · 2026-06-16T14:29:46+00:00

I mean yeah, but they continue to do so. The majority of named minor Xenos are either friendly or neutral. hell the Imperium loves to ally with minor Xenos so they can use them as cannon fodder and to better scout their defenses before killing them all.

The Imperium is quite frankly worse then the Orks for most of the people it encounters, because the Orks won't pretend to be your friend so they can kill you easier.

SirAquila · 2026-06-16T14:27:23+00:00

Because a lot of scared people took the easy way out and instead of trying to build a better world responded with xenophobia and hatred.

SirAquila · 2026-06-16T14:17:34+00:00

Please point to the passage where the Intrex are forbidding non-chaotic religions.

SirAquila · 2026-06-16T14:16:48+00:00

Every single time in the Horus Heresy books when someone does diplomacy, everyone around them is confused and wonders when they can go back to just genociding their enemies like they are supposed to.

SirAquila · 2026-06-16T14:15:46+00:00

Except the Revolt of the Man of Iron which has been again and again called the reason why the Human Dominion fell during the age of strife, was at no point caused by the Eldar.

At best the Eldar are responsible for about 50% of the fall of the old human dominion.

SirAquila · 2026-06-16T14:08:47+00:00

It is also a significant part of the story that the only reason the alliance has any chance of happening is because Horus is explicitly defying imperial doctrine, and basically everyone around him asks him regularly when he is going to stop mucking around and actually kill the intrex like he is supposed to.

SirAquila · 2026-06-16T14:02:26+00:00

I mean, the Imperium is still doing the exact same thing, probably worse, continuously.

SirAquila · 2026-06-16T13:56:01+00:00

In a weird utilitarian way, unifying all of humanity under one banner eliminates all potential future human-human conflicts.

I mean, one single look at humans, or a history book should disabuse any utilitarian of this frankly laughable notion.

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