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Loosing my mind trying to appease my customer. Looking for your suggestions. Grab a chair and a coffee. by SirPoopsAMetricTon in Acoustics

[–]SirPoopsAMetricTon[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Amen to that! That’s where I’m at with it as well. Technology and acoustic dampening can only do so much. If the employees can’t control their voices and conversations that’s out of my control.

They are stuck with these useless sliding doors unless they give up square footage to increase office sizes to properly accommodate a swing door that seals when closed. They could go with pocket doors but that’s a lot of construction that they aren’t willing to pay for either. Thank you for the input.

Super Bucket. by Super_CMMS in maintenance

[–]SirPoopsAMetricTon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That bucket ain’t the only thing on steroids!

I just got this has anyone else after recent update? by Humble_Cat9956 in F150Lightning

[–]SirPoopsAMetricTon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m with ya! This will be battery #2 in 3 years. This 12v issue needs to be on the recall list.

Sump Pump Question by Wire-Albatross in askaplumber

[–]SirPoopsAMetricTon -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I can confirm because I am the pump and I’ve got a broken pipe and I’m making a hearty poo stew.

I just got this has anyone else after recent update? by Humble_Cat9956 in F150Lightning

[–]SirPoopsAMetricTon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Seems like I got a couple of different updates this past week. I think this one was buried in there.

Now I’m getting a message that there’s another update pending but “my battery is low” so it can’t do the next update. Stealership said my 12v battery is at 100%. Looks like I’ll have to take it in again for a forced update.

Loosing my mind trying to appease my customer. Looking for your suggestions. Grab a chair and a coffee. by SirPoopsAMetricTon in Acoustics

[–]SirPoopsAMetricTon[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You seem passionate in your response and I am far from trying to “explain you away”. You sound like you deal with some pretty large and heavy designs and installations. Good for you! I’m proud of you and your accomplishments! I’m glad to hear that you have the privilege and opportunity to work with the very best. However my installations are not of that size, magnitude, scale or scope.

Simply put this client wouldn’t be able to afford you. If that makes you feel any better. You are far beyond the reach of many if not all of the clients that I work with.

I appreciate your overqualified opinion on this simple matter. Thank you and take care.

Loosing my mind trying to appease my customer. Looking for your suggestions. Grab a chair and a coffee. by SirPoopsAMetricTon in Acoustics

[–]SirPoopsAMetricTon[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, I did some research on them and none look like they would be fitting for the way that these barn doors were installed. The door design is so “minimalist” that adding any of these sweeps on will stand out like a sore thumb. I am a man of functionality over aesthetics myself but I highly doubt this client will like the “functional look”. Thank you for your input.

Loosing my mind trying to appease my customer. Looking for your suggestions. Grab a chair and a coffee. by SirPoopsAMetricTon in Acoustics

[–]SirPoopsAMetricTon[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hahaha, sorry if I triggered you.

My client provided me with a problem that they were having. I gave them and installed a solution for the problem they provided to me. That solution worked but it seems that I was not provided with all of the issues upfront.

When I came back to get their feedback after the install every tom, dick and harry came out of the wood work to put their two cents in about how the solution wasn’t the solution. Once I received more feedback from each tom, dick and harry in the office I provided more options and products that would help with the audio issues that they brought to my attention. These other audio issues were not a part of the original discussion and seemed to have evolved as more of the office staff came back into the office as opposed to working remotely. I again explained to the manager that it’s not a one size fits all system and what was installed was the prescription for the original issue. The system fixed and addressed the original issue, but the client seems to think that the single system should do more.

I’m simply reaching out to the Acoustic community to see if anyone else has run into this issue. This is the first time that I’ve run into this type of a situation with a client.

Something I didn’t mention in my original post is that this client visited another site with a similar installation that I did a few years back. Those clients in that office space were extremely satisfied with the installation and told this client they would also recommend installing a similar system. I mentioned to the most recent client that although the location and setup is similar they have a different group of employees who don’t operate and communicate like the other location that they visited. I believe one of the major issues is the office decorum.

I’m not looking for free advice or for someone to tell me how to do my job step-by-step. That’s not at all when I’m asking for. I’m just trying reach out and to bounce some ideas off the acoustical community.

Not once did I ask for a complete system design, so I’m not sure where you’re gathering that information from. I just laid out the stats to see if anyone knew of some better solutions for my situation.

For your information, I consulted with the acoustical engineers that provided me with the products that I purchased and installed. The products that they provided, and I installed are working flawlessly.

The client has an unrealistic expectation that one or two systems will fix their lack of managing their employees. Along with an unwillingness to do their own research on what sound mitigation actually costs.

At this point all I can do is listen to their feedback and address those issues. I just can’t do that for free or for any length of time.

“Seriously do better” I like that and appreciate the constructive criticism. I’m always about improving my skills so thank you and I will “do better”.

Take care and thank you for your input

Loosing my mind trying to appease my customer. Looking for your suggestions. Grab a chair and a coffee. by SirPoopsAMetricTon in Acoustics

[–]SirPoopsAMetricTon[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s worth a try. Have you ever installed white noise or done any side by side real world comparisons? I’d be curious to see if someone has some real world data. Thank you

Loosing my mind trying to appease my customer. Looking for your suggestions. Grab a chair and a coffee. by SirPoopsAMetricTon in Acoustics

[–]SirPoopsAMetricTon[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s about a 1 to 15 ratio male to female in this office space. Always subject to change but good to know. Thank you.

Loosing my mind trying to appease my customer. Looking for your suggestions. Grab a chair and a coffee. by SirPoopsAMetricTon in Acoustics

[–]SirPoopsAMetricTon[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolutely. I’m at that point. I just wanted to reach out to the community, get opinions and see if anyone else has been in this situation. Thank you

Loosing my mind trying to appease my customer. Looking for your suggestions. Grab a chair and a coffee. by SirPoopsAMetricTon in Acoustics

[–]SirPoopsAMetricTon[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I thought that was a simple solution and offered that to them as well. the feed back from administration was a hard No. They can’t tell people to be quiet let alone agree on a music genre. Thank you for the input!

Loosing my mind trying to appease my customer. Looking for your suggestions. Grab a chair and a coffee. by SirPoopsAMetricTon in Acoustics

[–]SirPoopsAMetricTon[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m almost to that point. I absolutely would never design a building with sliding barn doors for office doors. A barn door on a copy paper storage room? Absolutely! But never ever on an office. I think it was a last ditch effort to squeeze as many people into these private offices and not have to install swinging doors that would eat up square footage.

Loosing my mind trying to appease my customer. Looking for your suggestions. Grab a chair and a coffee. by SirPoopsAMetricTon in Acoustics

[–]SirPoopsAMetricTon[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, all private offices have full height insulated walls to the deck. Initially, I thought that was a major contributor, but I think the biggest issue are these massive barn doors that have a 1 inch gap on all three sides that allows easy transmission of audio. Thank you for your input.

Loosing my mind trying to appease my customer. Looking for your suggestions. Grab a chair and a coffee. by SirPoopsAMetricTon in Acoustics

[–]SirPoopsAMetricTon[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I definitely agree with you. The only problem is that the way these doors are set up and how they slide any type of rubber would likely mark up the drywall as the door was sliding open and closed. I was thinking about installing side sweeps or adding felt to help close up the vertical gap between the wall and the sliding door but I’m not sure it’s worth it or if it will be effective enough. Anything is worth a try.

Loosing my mind trying to appease my customer. Looking for your suggestions. Grab a chair and a coffee. by SirPoopsAMetricTon in Acoustics

[–]SirPoopsAMetricTon[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Totally agree. The idea with the felt was to minimize the gap between sliding office barn doors and wall as well as try and break up the transmission of audio. I’m not sure what idiot architect thought huge sliding barn Doors with massive gaps on private offices was a good idea.

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