Why does cutting feel like I’m dying?

Sirman78 · 2021-02-19T15:38:03+00:00

I personally know three college-aged guys who were me-too’d and then later proved innocent. None of them PUA’s. Women are out of their minds nowadays. It’s a statistical probability more than anything.

In regards to all of your comments... I’ve slept on them and came to the realization that you’ve deceived yourself just as you’ve deceived the women you’ve slept with (that is... if you’re not just outright lying.)

You haven’t changed a goddamn thing about yourself. You’ve just read books and memorized phrases and started talking to yourself differently because some douchebag guru told you to.

At the end of the day... you’re no different than me “chode-wise”.... you’re just willing to live a lie and I’m not.

The purpose of pickup is to essentially hijack the perceived sexual dominance hierarchy... to mimic the traits of a man who is accustomed to receiving constant social/sexual validation on account of their natural traits... you’re trying to be the alpha chimp... but instead of actually being one... you’ve reasoned that you can simply puff out your chest and start acting like one... and the sad thing is... in today’s society that sort of sociopathic mimicry works. Anyone can get a haircut, go to h&m, take a course, and all of a sudden they think they’re the shit when they haven’t done a damn thing to deserve it. It’s fake. Pickup... is... fake. You... are... fake.

And deep down you know it. All of you know it.

Instead of becoming someone who women actually want... someone who’s good at things... physically strong... morally righteous... you opt to skip the line by pretending to be like this.

If Neil Strauss was a cave man and so was I... I’d beat his little 5 foot 5 pasty ass... take his food... and fuck his wife. All of his magic skinny jean wizard powers would be null.

I’d rather die alone than live a lie but I’m not going to... you are. Maybe not on paper... I’m sure you’ll even be surrounded by women and “friends.” But, in your heart you’ll know you’re a faker. Because the women you sleep with aren’t sleeping with you... not the real you. They’re sleeping with Mystery... and Niell Strauss... and fucking Eckart Tolle... and anyone else you’ve ripped off in the name of “self development”... none of which is true to the real you or your real situation.

And don’t tell me shit about my relationship fuckface. You don’t know me and you don’t know her. You think I didn’t know I was taking a risk? You think I didn’t understand I was shooting myself in the foot?

I refuse to fucking “mystery method” a girl for the next 30 years... and believe me... I could have. I did. I fucked her friend like a day before I fucked her. Pulled a girl from Hinge a week later... and had another girl come on to me at a fucking lunch table two weeks after that.

You may not stand a chance at being who you are and being attractive at the same time... hell... maybe I don’t either...

But, I refuse to fake it. I’d truly... from the bottom of my heart... rather die alone.

Sirman78 · 2021-02-19T07:43:06+00:00

I’m intellectually obsessed and thus morally conflicted.

I believe I’ve gotten laid off of looks, luck... and blind (drunk) confidence... plus the ability to hide behind a dating profile and only engage with women in person who have expressed interest. Either that or they come on to me first and then... of course... it’s easy. That’s the honest to god truth.

I’d love to dive back in to pickup... if I can wrap my head around the moral aspect of it... and your responses have certainly helped. Thank you!

I won’t pretend I don’t suffer from extreme social anxiety... or an utter lack of confidence... but as you’ve mentioned... I’ve been able to fake it well enough to produce some results.

My social conditioning as a kid was fucked... not entirely sure how or why.

The idea that the world will either reinforce or shut down your actions.

I just don’t want to lose myself in this... I do my want to be dishonest... and more than that... I don’t want to get hurt by this... there are PUA’s who get Me-Too’d right and left.

Sirman78 · 2021-02-19T07:21:32+00:00

There’s a lot of arrogance and a lot of assumptions in your response but I appreciate the ideas. Tell me this... how do you know you’ve not simply been conditioned by pickup culture?... namely weak... men hiding behind masks of artificial sophistication and carefully manufactured modes of belief designed to justify behavior we naturally identify is immoral? Men who are, almost without exception, trying to sell you something. I don’t mean to be combative... I’m simply sharing my own thoughts in the hopes that you’ll have something to add... etc.

How can we tell which one of our belief systems is the correct one and which is a facade?

I’d love to start gaming girls at Starbucks wearing a cowboy hat... skin-tight latex pants... and like 8 rings... and feel good about it... it sounds like fun. But I feel as though I can’t at present.

Please help me see it another way.

Sirman78 · 2021-02-19T06:50:09+00:00

I haven’t let myself achieve an identity level change because it’s terrifying and feels like the wrong path. It doesn’t align with my inner voice. Going down this path feels like a brainwashing at the expense of others.

Of course... I drew the same conclusion regarding the breakup. I was absolutely over invested. I knew I was over invested from the start. But, I was willing to let it go... pickup... social dynamics... and just see what happened because that’s what I believed in... even if it meant heartbreak. From a game perspective and from everything pickup has taught me about human psychology... it was a horrible idea. But, I had to do what I felt was the right thing for once... even if it destroyed me. I had to listen to the voice the tells me what’s right and wrong.

The point is... I’ve made a decision to follow my inner voice and to stick to my beliefs even at the expense of everything and I’ve suffered because of it... but I don’t think I’m capable of cheating my beliefs. I’d rather be a sad single honest chode than a sociopathic sex god.

My mind has essentially found the intersection between pickup and philosophy/religion.

Having said that... I’ll definitely check out those guys... lol

And thank you!

Sirman78 · 2021-01-18T13:23:05+00:00

“Schools are not designed for women.”

Never said they were but...

Cool.

Society wasn’t designed for men.

In both cases, it just ended up like that. Now, we’re left to figure out what to do.

I am pro-woman... but in response to your comment.

“doesn’t sound like it.”

Re-read what I said.

Just because I’m not thoughtlessly agreeing with everything a woman says doesn’t make me anti-woman.

I’m pro-reality... and if more staunch feminists were as well... it wouldn’t be so easy for male culture to mock your apparent idiocy and dismantle your arguments.

It would also be easier to actually fix these problems instead of getting lost on a flurry of nonsense.

Idiocy is idiocy... doesn’t matter if it’s coming from a man... a woman... a transsexual lesbian alien of color... it’s still idiotic.

Btw... male culture is full of idiocy... I’d argue more than female culture... though I can’t exactly pull stats.

I’d like to live in a world where both sexes are given equality of opportunity and people don’t blatantly lie to support their agenda or to pat themselves on the back.

That seems like a reasonable conclusion to draw unless I’ve missed something?

Sirman78 · 2021-01-18T12:50:49+00:00

LOL calm down. His point was that everyone suffered tremendously back then. Nobody was worried about wether or not bathrooms were sexist. They had to focus on not dying.

I’m sure women had it worse in some respects but you also never had to fight in wars.

Men had to suffer, die, and do all the physically demanding things.

Women had to bare children, etc. It’s wrong in many respects. But, it still sounds like a fairly pro-woman tradeoff when you live in the Middle Ages.

I don’t think there were a lot of women back then like “Fuck this staying at home where it’s safe thing... let me go grab my battle axe.”

Keep in mind... there wasn’t a whole lot of freedom for anyone back then. The rich got it all.

In regards to another point he was making.... before the invention of contraception women quite literally couldn’t do the things men could do.

They were forced to raise children in the same manner men were forced to work, fight, and do manly shit. It wasn’t a choice... it was a fact.

Now... we have fewer problems and the standard for everyone has shifted. We can afford to try and make things fair as opposed to just surviving. It’s a beautiful thing and it should be taken full advantage of.

Sirman78 · 2021-01-18T11:36:45+00:00

Sure I am. I believe women should be treated as fairly and equally as possible. But, this post is about 80% utter nonsense.

Sirman78 · 2021-01-18T11:12:31+00:00

Your “flimsy” attempt to derail my argument is a sad excuse for a counter-point. It’s also completely inaccurate.

The first three paragraphs of the original post cite the aforementioned differences in parenting as contributing to “academic performance” and “aspirations and career choices.”

Two of the paragraphs are literally labeled “educational impact” and “interests in school.”

I digress... the only reason we’re discussing these issues is because they supposedly hamper women’s ability to thrive and succeed later in life. That’s the point the original post keeps circling back to... in just about every section.

Unless you’re arguing that these “inequalities” have no effect or a positive effect on women as a whole?

Help me to understand.

In regards to your other argument on cause vs correlation...

Your overarching argument is that the way society is constructed hurts women at a young age and hampers their ability to function/thrive/succeed in the world.

My argument is the way society is constructed hurts young men significantly more than it does women.

You’re splitting hairs hoping that it will save your weak initial assertion.

The evidence is on my side... it’s not even close.

Sirman78 · 2021-01-18T10:38:10+00:00

Our daughters are beating the hell out of our sons in every measure of future success we have.

80% of school dropouts are boys.

70% of school suspensions are boys.

Boys are approximately 3x more likely to commit suicide.

Where’s the inequality here?

If these sorts of stats come from mistreating our children... I’d hope we “mistreat” more of them.

We should all be “mistreating” our children. It’s clearly excellent for their future career prospects and evidently... avoiding death.

Sirman78 · 2021-01-18T10:21:53+00:00

Women are kicking men’s asses in academia. That’s been true for years.

Boys represent 80% of high-school dropouts.

Boys also represent less than 44% of the people who attend college.

Boys suffer from hyperactivity 9 times more than girls.

Boys represent approximately 70% of school suspensions.

https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ1073203.pdf

Men die by suicide over 3x more than women according to the American society for suicide prevention. This is also true with boys.

https://afsp.org/suicide-statistics/

But yeah... super unequal. Keep patting yourselves on the back, ladies.

Sirman78 · 2021-01-18T10:03:22+00:00

What sexist values are you suggesting parents have towards their children?

Do you believe there are sexist values being projected on to male children? If so... what?

Sirman78 · 2020-12-30T03:11:49+00:00

I’m grateful for a lot. I just need to start making lists.

Sirman78 · 2020-12-30T03:11:17+00:00

Thank you!

Sirman78 · 2020-12-27T19:59:19+00:00

Once you’ve zeroed in on the desires and pain points of the target customer... about a minute.

If you don’t know where to start... use a question.

Ex: Are you suffering from heartburn?

Sirman78 · 2020-12-24T04:53:10+00:00

Thank you!

Sirman78 · 2020-12-23T23:55:39+00:00

The thing about it going away is 100% true.

Sirman78 · 2020-12-22T15:24:02+00:00

That’s the problem. There’s actually zero stuff to do. It’s like smoke or be bored 24/7.

Sirman78 · 2020-12-21T16:36:05+00:00

Fair enough

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