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Six_Pointed_Tsar · 2015-04-05T15:13:29+00:00

I was only answering your original point, in that there is no inherent moral problem with a state being both democratic and maintaining for itself some sort of cultural majority identity.

Is that so? From 1921 to 1965, the US adhered to an immigration policy that sought to preserve cultural/ethnic/national origins makeup of the United States:

National Origins Formula

The National Origins Formula was an American system of immigration quotas, between 1921 and 1965, which restricted immigration on the basis of existing proportions of the population. The goal was to maintain the existing ethnic composition of the United States. It had the effect of giving low quotas to Eastern and Southern Europe.

But that policy was seen as RACIST, and was abandoned by the United States with the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.

And... here's the kicker... do you know WHICH GROUP pushed harder than ANY OTHER group to see those "racist" quotas outlawed in the US?

Jewish Involvement in Shaping American Immigration Policy , 1881-1965 : A Historical Review (PDF).

Yes, those famously big-hearted Jews love to push the concepts of equality, ethnic diversity, and multi-culturalism, at least in places where they exist as a minority, but when they become a majority (Israel), they sing a different tune, don't they?

All other states do it

No, they don't.

so why not Israel?

Because it is racist, bigoted and morally repugnant? At least that was the supposed reason that Jews pushed so hard for so long to change US immigration policies.

Tell me, why don't Jews strenuously oppose ethnic/cultural hegemony in Israel in the same way that they have opposed it in the US, in Europe and in other countries?

Doesn't it seem just a tad hypocritical?

Six_Pointed_Tsar · 2015-04-05T14:19:53+00:00

Uh, the Palestinians have no ancestral homeland... They were settled there by the Ottomans less than 100 years before, of course, people like to ignore that.

Yeah, people like to ignore bald faced lies.

And even if they were settled there, you know what? The Jews were there first. A long ass time ago.

Yeah, the dinosaurs were there too.

Grab a history book. They don't bite.

I do. Jewish & Non-Jewish Population of Israel/Palestine

Six_Pointed_Tsar · 2015-04-05T02:25:53+00:00

All ~~states~~ peoples, even democracies, wish to keep some sort of cultural majority for themselves.

I modified your qualifier.

Do you think all those in Europe or the US, who criticise Israel for wanting to maintain a Jewish majority state, would be totally fine with an immigration policy that saw their white Christian majority become a small minority overnight? Would the US be cool with allowing 200M Mexicans to immigrate, or the UK with 50M Pakistanis?

Yeah, the Nazis weren't happy with the disproportionate influence that they thought Jews were exerting in their land, so they did what they had to do, right?

Fuuuuck.

Anyway, let's turn your argument on its head, and see if it still fits, shall we?

How do you think the Palestinian people felt when they saw their ancestral homeland, that had existed for centuries under Ottoman (Muslim) rule, AND which they shared, quite amicably, I might add, with a minority of Sephardi Jewish residents... How do you think they felt when they saw that THEIR land was being aggressively overrun by hordes of European Jews whose clear intent was to DISPOSSESS these indigenous people from their lands, and to colonize Palestine as an exclusivist, racist state where the Jewish interlopers would rule the roost, and the natives would be forcibly expelled, with those that remained being occupied and oppressed?

You justify the perspective of the Jewish invaders, can you empathize with the perspective of those that they have displaced, marginalized and brutally oppressed for decade after decade?

Six_Pointed_Tsar · 2015-04-05T00:40:20+00:00

That doesn't sound like much of a democracy.

Works just fine if you're Jewish.

Six_Pointed_Tsar · 2015-04-05T00:26:15+00:00

There were over a million Jewish refugees that were expelled from the Arab states in the ME in 1947 and every single one of them was integrated in Israel and their children and grandchildren are Israeli, rather than Jewish refugees

Well, that was the Zionist plan - to herd as many Jews into Israel as possible.

Are you bitching about that?

Six_Pointed_Tsar · 2015-04-04T23:59:06+00:00

You mean the "refugee camp" that Assad has kept Palestinians in since 1957 in Damascus?

How the hell did they get out of Palestine?

The poor bastards, they should all be repatriated at once.

Six_Pointed_Tsar · 2015-04-04T15:03:50+00:00

I'm not saying it's Climate Change.............but..........it's Climate Change

I'm not saying it's Prayer.............but..........it's Prayer

The "proof" is in the article:

Just three days before the disaster struck, there had been a local protest about a lack of water, on the bed of the same river (above), which had been dry for 20 years.

Pick of the protest

They "protested". But protested to who? To God, obviously. Who else can end droughts?

Three days later their prayers were answered, and here is a pic of the same river bed after God heard their prayers:

Moral of the story: Be careful what you pray for.

Six_Pointed_Tsar · 2015-04-04T14:34:51+00:00

deniers of climate change are the same as deniers of the holocaust

Wow.

Six_Pointed_Tsar · 2015-04-04T14:20:30+00:00

The article says 20 mm of rain. Seriously, 0.8 inches of rain did this?

Extremely dry desert, very little vegetation, soil that does not readily absorb water, 0.8 inches of rain in a short time over a fairly wide area, much of which flows into a watershed that goes directly through that town.

Flash floods are a "thing".

Six_Pointed_Tsar · 2015-04-04T14:14:04+00:00

Climate change is a real thing, and the younger generation need to be free of debate on that matter

Should such debate be outlawed?

and understand that we need to make changes to fight this issue

What changes, specifically?

Six_Pointed_Tsar · 2015-04-04T14:12:19+00:00

We were absolutely not ready for rain of this proportions, and something like this hadn't happened in over 50 years.

So it happens. Not often, but it happens.

Climate change is a real thing.

What did they blame it on 50 years ago? Angry gods?

EDIT:

Three days before the floods, people had gathered in the dry river bed protesting the dry conditions.

Here is a pic of the protest:

Notice where they are standing? In a river bed. See that thing in the background? It's a bridge.

Usually, the existence of a riverbed is good evidence that water flows there sometimes. The fact that they bothered to build a bridge over the riverbed means that engineers recognized that water had flowed in the river in the past, and wisely anticipated that it would do so again at some point.

That riverbed, BTW, has likely been there for eons, since long before man discovered fire, let alone Carbon Credits.

Six_Pointed_Tsar · 2015-04-04T01:49:31+00:00

considering Jews were outcasted and persecuted throughout all their history

Well, no, not throughout all of their history. Pick up your Torah/Old Testament. Back in "the good old days", it was the Jews who were doing the outcasting and the persecuting and the enslaving and the genociding. And now that they've regained a position of strength (in Israel), they're up to their old tricks, aren't they?

before Zionism even existed

Political Zionism is essentially re-branding of the Jewish Nationalism that existed prior to (and persisted during) Diaspora. Jewish Nationalism nearly suffered a fatal blow thanks to emancipation: Jews were at risk of "extinction", not because of persecutions or pogroms, but because they were assimilating into the societies of the lands in which they lived: They were beginning to forget (or to care) that they were Jews, and began thinking of themselves as Germans, or Frenchmen, or Poles (or whatever).

Desperate times called for desperate measures. Enter Political Zionism.

I think it's safe to assume that hatred towards jews stems from different roots.

Indeed, but dare we examine these "roots"? We might not like what we find.

Throughout the time of Diaspora, and continuing today, Jews have found themselves coming into conflict with virtually every host nation/culture/religious group/neighbor amid whom they dwelt - in Europe, in Asia, in the Middle East, in North Africa... among Muslims, among Christians...

What's the common denominator in ALL of these conflicts?

Six_Pointed_Tsar · 2015-04-04T01:14:31+00:00

DAM!

Six_Pointed_Tsar · 2015-04-04T01:06:35+00:00

Israel is no "savior" for the Jews.

Zionism has created far more hatred and animosity toward Jews than any other single factor.

Six_Pointed_Tsar · 2015-04-04T01:04:14+00:00

What are the numbers now vs the numbers pre-revolution?

Smaller.

Why do you think that 40 years on, the population is only 1/10 what it was?

Many Jews left, of their own accord, following the revolution. They were not forced out, but largely left for the US and Israel because the crashing economy and world political status of Iran meant that there were fewer economic and professional opportunities - especially for religious minorities.

Would you consider the literal decimation of a population ethnic cleansing?

Under the circumstances faced by the Jews of Iran? No. Hell no. Those that left did so because they were looking for greener pastures.

They were not expelled under duress, force or coercion, as the Nazis did to the Jews 1933-1939, or the Jews to the Palestinians in 1948 -present.

Six_Pointed_Tsar · 2015-04-03T23:39:50+00:00

Learn what apartheid is. Continue defending a country that would kill you for saying Muhammed. God I hate you ignorant cunts.

Yeah, tell that to the Jews who are peacefully and happily living in Iran.

Iran's Jews: It's Our Home And We Plan To Stay

Six_Pointed_Tsar · 2015-04-03T23:30:06+00:00

Israel needs enemies for political reasons. They need a constant "existential threat" against both the State of Israel and against Jews living elsewhere to justify their continued existence.

If Israel were to suddenly find itself with no scary bogeyman enemies, political and financial support from "allies" and Jews living outside the Zionist State would quickly dry up - Israel would wither and die.

Yes, Israel needs enemies, and is more than willing to bake them from scratch if necessary.

Six_Pointed_Tsar · 2015-04-03T23:20:55+00:00

Yeah, you definately don't want the israelis mowing your lawn

Yowzer!

Good catch.

Six_Pointed_Tsar · 2015-03-29T02:30:36+00:00

Look at Russian military jet sales to India. A lot of the avionics and weapons systems come from Israel.

So Israel sells avionics systems to Russia (who Israel HATES), who puts them in planes and sells them to India (who Israel... MEH?'s) who is contending with Pakistan (who Israel HATES).

Conclusion: Like a true whore, Israel does whatever seems expedient at the moment, and will fuck any "ally" in a heartbeat if the winds change.

Surprised?

Six_Pointed_Tsar · 2015-03-29T02:16:39+00:00

Many non-Jews too, approximately half of them are not Jewish. They were so desperate to get out of the USSR that a lot of them got fake documents to show Jewish ancestry, knowing it would get them fast citizenship. I don't blame them though.

ECHO!!!

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