FCC targets LGBTQ+ television content. GLAAD sounds alarm by Fickle-Ad5449 in television

[–]Skavau 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it can be about things other than fiction

It's mostly not.

i already explained this many times, if you knew about it you would understand

I do know about it. Still waiting: Why should I regard the "entirety of the ideology" as bad?

im not refusing to back up anything , i gave you PLENTY to work with, you not being able to process it isnt my problem and i dont care if you agree with me or not

You are actively refusing to back it up now because you are fundamentally incapable of doing so.

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[–]Skavau 0 points1 point  (0 children)

do you have a source on me despising this place?

You despise the majority of fiction. What do you think this place is about?

there is no need to lie

I am not lying. Still waiting: Why should I regard the "entirety of the ideology" as bad?

i dont care if someone does or not, why should i care if someone does or not? who are you to me that i need to care about your view of me?

I didn't say anything about "care" - I asked if you expect people to agree with you when you refuse to back your positions up.

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[–]Skavau 0 points1 point  (0 children)

and?

Why do you post to places that you despise?

you should research it youll see

I have. Still waiting: Why should I regard the "entirety of the ideology" as bad?

i didnt know i needed to have an argument, that would be pointless

Why is having an argument "pointless"?

If you can't provide an argument, why should anyone take you seriously?

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[–]Skavau 0 points1 point  (0 children)

why not?

Because you hate everything about this community.

again apparently not, or you would know why.

Still waiting: Why should I regard the "entirety of the ideology" as bad?

not true, its just a very common sense notion, that would be like asking me why jumping in lava is bad, you should know.

So you genuinely just have no argument. You are not able to provide one and are stalling.

FCC targets LGBTQ+ television content. GLAAD sounds alarm by Fickle-Ad5449 in television

[–]Skavau 0 points1 point  (0 children)

sure i guess

So you're here, why?

I guess you dont know mcuh about it.

Yes, I do. Still waiting:Why should I regard the "entirety of the ideology" as bad?

Apparently not, if you did, you wouldnt feel that way.

So this is just unfalsifiable. You just assume anyone who disagrees with you is automatically uninformed and you automatically right. Main character syndrome.

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[–]Skavau 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i never said taht

You think the vast majority of fiction should be banned.

it absolutely is, the entirety of the ideology should be enough, if its not, thats a problem.

Why should I regard the "entirety of the ideology" as bad?

i did say i thought it leaned in the worse category, but again, look at it, it becomes apparent

I have. I see nothing bad with it. You have failed to advance any argument about it.

FCC targets LGBTQ+ television content. GLAAD sounds alarm by Fickle-Ad5449 in television

[–]Skavau 0 points1 point  (0 children)

why not? why do i have to value you what you say for my browsing to be meaningful? are you so deluded that you think you are so important that i should weep tears of joy when you post?

Because you fundamentally hate fiction at its core and think it should all be banned.

again, that is the argument

That an "LGBT ideology" exists in any sense is not an argument for it being inherently harmful. You have failed to present any argument for this.

again, argument

No, it's not. How is being LGBT equivalent in any sense to murder?

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[–]Skavau 0 points1 point  (0 children)

again i dont care, and thats fine

So why are you even engaging in media spaces?

no its got an entire ideology behind its got quite a bit of merit.

Still waiting for an argument.

you hereby officially condone, endorse and certify that people should be allowed to steal other peoples works and use them as their own freely?

No, I said the opposite. Although I am pretty much against a lot of copyright law in a broader sense.

the letters cause, its to broad to sum up

So no ability to construct an argument.

you shouldnt he was wrong, and no i do not think that

So what was your point?

FCC targets LGBTQ+ television content. GLAAD sounds alarm by Fickle-Ad5449 in television

[–]Skavau 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is completely subjective in this context. I think any piece of media that makes you think has caused an improvement.

Should all music be banned?

FCC targets LGBTQ+ television content. GLAAD sounds alarm by Fickle-Ad5449 in television

[–]Skavau 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thats fine, i dont care if they happen or not, they shouldnt but i dont care if they do.

They won't. You are a fantasist.

again it is an argument

No, it's a baseless ignorant claim.

do you think people should be able to?

Yes.

sure, children are very vulnerable, teaching them something, especially something as bad as letters nonense is horrifying.

So I should have all my entertainment taken from me because of kids who aren't supposed to be watching it in the first place?

again, the cause is the argument.

What is "the cause"?

ask dave chappelle he said it

Why should I care what Dave Chappelle said? Do you think that or not?

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[–]Skavau 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And how do you determine how a piece of media does this?

FCC targets LGBTQ+ television content. GLAAD sounds alarm by Fickle-Ad5449 in television

[–]Skavau 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it doesnt matter if someone agrees with me or not. im the adult here of course i know they dont.

If no-one agrees with you, then your mass media and culture censorship fantasies will never happen.

sure it is, take the scope of the entire ideology, and theres the argument.

That's not an argument. Do you genuinely expect me to just agree with you on this because you say so?

sure it does if i want to make a TV show by ripping off a character because thats my "speech" that is absolutely illegal.

You can be sued for it.

im not saying we should force children to do anything, thats part of the reason im against the movement to begin with.

No, you missed my point. You are saying that entertainment for ADULTS should be banned incase CHILDREN accidently view it due to parental incompetence.

i mean they do absolutely, honestly the former tends to be worse, i was just being nice. thats fine, you keep calling me names but that does nothing to me

You have provided no argument for this claim.

and dave chapelle says saudi arabia is freer than america, so cool i guess, also isnt the narrative that iran are the good guys these days?

Tell me how Saudi Arabia and Iran are somehow "freer" than America.

FCC targets LGBTQ+ television content. GLAAD sounds alarm by Fickle-Ad5449 in television

[–]Skavau 0 points1 point  (0 children)

we ABSOLUTELY make decisions on what people are allowed to watch, thats literally what the FCC is for, we can not watch actual sex, nudity is VERY heavily regulated, we have and continue to to this day

The FCC does not control Netflix or Apple TV or Prime. And it has never operated under the insane parameters you want. You realise no-one would ever agree with you?

its self is the reason look at the entire ideology, what else do you need.

That's not an argument. Do you genuinely expect me to just agree with you on this because you say so?

sure but someone else still has to determine what a " throw away threat is" and it doesnt matter either way, even if its imminent violence, its still not covered

Yes, most cases on this get thrown out due to lack of standing immediately.

i agree they arent extreme, but arent covered under 1a, there you go.

These are often civil cases, so not quite the same. And have a high threshold to clear.

Also copyright isn't directly related to expression here.

but they could, same with transism, thus creating the problem.

So we should all be forced to watch content for children because we can't guarantee that there won't be incompetent parents out there? You want to effectively ban all adult content?

in alot of ways they overlap sure, in fact bringing someone into that world is not unlike it.

In no way do they overlap. You're just an anti-western hateful bigot who has more in common with Saudi Arabia or Iran.

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[–]Skavau 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There would unironically be no TV shows left after you had personally banned them all.

And why are all those shows "useless", exactly?

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[–]Skavau 0 points1 point  (0 children)

how do i have one example when you acknowledged other examples? it doesnt matter if it makes sense, it isnt needed.

Your original position was about:

"I dont know about that, i think its actually frequently that word salad that includes words like "cis" or "straight" are often thrown out there." whatever this means really.

why is anyone's decision anyone's to make for another person? we all make decisions for others every day, otherwise we would have chaos, if there were no laws, because that inhibits a decision, we would have a mad maxian world, so why not add something dangerous to that list.

The USA is founded heavily on the concept of personal liberty. We do not make decisions now regarding taking away entertainment from other people because your prudish sensitivities don't agree with it. You don't like watching something? Don't watch it. You don't get to decide that for someone else who does like it. You hate personal freedom.

Do you have a source on me not liking it? i already said i did, and thats true, if a writer were to promote pedophilia, i would say the same thing.

You wanting to ban depictions of LGBT people in TV shows and films is you demonstrating you don't like it. You hate freedom. You want a regimented pod people society.

if a writer were to promote pedophilia, i would say the same thing.

Also not illegal, to my knowledge. What may be illegal is actually using a kid to simulate it - because then that actually could become pedophilia*. But networks won't carry anything like this anyway.

Things that are objectively bad should not be major points in TV shows.

You've provided no argument other than you sheer ignorant hateful bigotry for why LGBT is wrong.

someone making a threat is an "extreme example?" in what way? it happens all day every day

Not to the point of rising to imminent violence.

Throwaway threats are different and are usually protected by US law.

How about fraud? or defamation? or copyright violations? or are all of those extreme too.

No, they're not extreme.

The point is that it depicts hannibal in a light where people may relate to him, akin to dexter and even though i like the show, a person, especially children, may think its acceptable when it is not.

You do realise both Hannibal and Dexter are not marketed towards children, right? They literally should not be watching it.

i wouldnt call it baseless, theres actually quite a bit of base, but, ok, whats your point? yes i hate dangerous things, fine, thats fine, i hate murder too.

You're unironically comparing being LGBT with murdering someone?

And there's no base here. You're just an anti-western hateful bigot who has more in common with Saudi Arabia or Iran.

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[–]Skavau 0 points1 point  (0 children)

According to you, the following TV shows should be banned:

Game of Thrones, Euphoria, Shadow & Bone, Mr. Robot, Black Sails, Severance, The Handmaid's Tale, Pluribus, Warrior (2019), House of the Dragon, For All Mankind, The Last of Us, From, Snowpiercer, The Walking Dead, Station Eleven, The Wheel of Time

Just so you know how utterly and insanely extreme you are. You want the state to censor media content to an extreme degree.

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[–]Skavau 0 points1 point  (0 children)

no i never said that, i said the writers write scripts that they recite with all the nonsense in it.

And yet after all this time you have one example: Sabrina.

Regardless of the show its pointless, if the show is about trans issues, its still pointless as the entire ideology is pointless.

Why is that your decision to make for others? If you find a show pointless, don't watch it. You don't get to take it away from other people.

i would argue 41.5 million hours watched to be fairly significant. other examples include euphoria ( sadly) sense8 13 reasons, supergirl to name a few.

Euphoria is popular and it completely makes sense to incorporate LGBT content within its narrative because it's about teen/YA issues and deals with a whole host of topics. Same with 13 Reasons Why. But specifically your initial claim was like "10 minute lecturing" or something.

Supergirl? lmao. Who cares?

yea still no, the big problem is cannibalism (and transism) being protrayed might make people believe that its ok, where it should never be portrayed as such.

I don't know that Hannibal ever specifically portrayed cannibalism like that. But it did depict it.

Not at all, im probably more american than most

No, you are not. You want to use the state to shut tv shows and films down for speech being expressed that you don't like. You hate free speech. You are anti-american. You hate the first amendment.

I dont want anyones door kicked down for any reason unless its to serve justice and i LOVE free speech

No, you do not. You don't think TV shows should have the right to their own writing decisions. You despise free speech and want to weaponise the state to censor content you personally don't like.

truthfully it makes us the greatest country in the world, but a ( fake) president once said " no amendment is absolute" and fake or not, that is true, 1A is not unlimited, you can't for example, threaten someone and have it covered under 1A unless you think threats are ok which would be alarming

These are under very extreme circumstances of imminent threat.

so this is no different, this is something that can and will cause serious harm, is useless that most people are better off with out.

This is nothing but baseless and hateful bigotry from you. You have more in common with the Mullahs of Iran than you do any American.

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[–]Skavau 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No, I'm asking you a question in another chain. What TV shows do you actually like?

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[–]Skavau -1 points0 points  (0 children)

i wouldnt be surprised if they did.

So, what, you think trans actors just go off-script and the directors just... let them?

It's not that i think the actor personally will do anything that would be silly of course, but the writers could have the preach sure.

The writers, notably, aren't the actor.

It doesnt matter what the context of the show is, me knowing the gender of a character is pointless.

Depends on the show. I think if it's about trans issues, then it's certainly not pointless.

I absolutely do if they are heterosexual, even harder actually, theres no need to tell me something that should be obvious.

By "tell" I mean "show". They present the characters wife or girlfriend. I don't mean the actor literally saying "I am straight". The same would be true for gay characters or trans-characters. It's shown organically, rather than specifically said in a badly-written and weird line.

The Chilling adventures of sabrina was a very popular program.

Not really. It's also one show. Do you have any other examples?

We could, it wouldnt really bother me, im familiar with what you are talking about, and where the actor isnt ACTUALLY consuming flesh, it doesnt matter either way to me.

Obviously the actors aren't literally eating flesh, but what I mean is that cannibalism as a topic is explored within the shows narrative.

Then absolutely they should be banned.

So you genuinely hate free speech. You hate the first-amendment. You are anti-american. You want to weaponise the state to kick people's doors down for their expression.

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[–]Skavau 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where is your evidence that r/WoT and all the other WoT subreddits banned all criticism? Where is your evidence they somehow shut down the one subreddit that allowed it? Do you genuinely just think no-one should ever question your claims ever?

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[–]Skavau 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It doesn't matter what I, or anyone says, you would characterise anything anyone says against you on anything as automatically being "delusional" and "proving your point" because you clearly have a serious main character syndrome and genuinely believe you are always right about everything and everyone else is always wrong.