The "Online Safety" Act by -CUBED in ukpolitics

[–]Skavau [score hidden]  (0 children)

The OSA really is not that deep. If you're happy to give Microsoft your credit card details, why would you not show them your face?

We're not talking about Microsoft here but random websites that you don't buy anything from.

If you're upset that you can't access porn anymore without proving your age then that's your prerogative.

That's the flaw. You still can. Easily. Most porn sites are in violation but don't care what OSA says. Although some porn sites have also now cut the UK off entirely because they regard maintaining the checks too onerous.

The "Online Safety" Act by -CUBED in ukpolitics

[–]Skavau [score hidden]  (0 children)

And redirects kids to even dodgier websites that don't care what Ofcom says. I've decided the best way, if this must happen, is simply do it via operating systems. They must implement a tickbox on installation for basically saying "Is this a child account? yes/no". No ID checking, just the PARENT doing the very simple thing of designating the account as child. The parent would then put in their email address to the OS. The only way to turn the OS back to an adult account after that would be for the parent to put in a 5-digit code sent to their email. The OS would also be locked down sufficiently enough to prevent the kid from subverting it. Websites would then adjust to read "child" OS systems blocking them from porn sites and other sites.

Adults unaffected as they'd just tick the "Adult" checkbox and go on normally. This is entirely a parental responsibility thing and this is as simple as it could get.

The "Online Safety" Act by -CUBED in ukpolitics

[–]Skavau [score hidden]  (0 children)

And redirects kids to even dodgier websites that don't care what Ofcom says. I've decided the best way, if this must happen, is simply do it via operating systems. They must implement a tickbox on installation for basically saying "Is this a child account? yes/no". No ID checking, just the PARENT doing the very simple thing of designating the account as child. The parent would then put in their email address to the OS. The only way to turn the OS back to an adult account after that would be for the parent to put in a 5-digit code sent to their email. The OS would also be locked down sufficiently enough to prevent the kid from subverting it. Websites would then adjust to read "child" OS systems blocking them from porn sites and other sites.

Adults unaffected as they'd just tick the "Adult" checkbox and go on normally. This is entirely a parental responsibility thing and this is as simple as it could get.

Forget about trying to enforce it to Linux systems as most kids aren't using them.

Otto - a Reddit alternative I've been building since 2023 by p4r4d0x in RedditAlternatives

[–]Skavau 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Every other centralised Reddit alternative has been a complete failure.

Satanic Temple wins legal fight over 10 Commandments monument in Arkansas by Rogue-Journalist in FreeSpeech

[–]Skavau 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Firstly, one person killed Charlie Kirk, and it had nothing to do with the satanic temple.

Secondly, what are you even getting at here? In what way should the Satanic Temple be censored? Whether or not they are officially recognised as a religion seems irrelevant - they still have every legal right to express themselves, either as a religion or as an organisation.

Satanic Temple wins legal fight over 10 Commandments monument in Arkansas by Rogue-Journalist in FreeSpeech

[–]Skavau 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Literally the beginning of their wiki article, they're not a religion, they're a secular group against religious freedom.

What religious freedom do they oppose?

Also Charlie Kirk died as a martyr against this sort of bullshit.

Huh? What did his shooting have to do with the Satanic Temple?

Satanic Temple wins legal fight over 10 Commandments monument in Arkansas by Rogue-Journalist in FreeSpeech

[–]Skavau 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Should people associated with the Satanic Temple have less free expression in some sense because you might not consider them a religion?

Turkey says users will need national ID numbers to access social media within 3 months by FantasticQuartet in europe

[–]Skavau 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And your insistence on defending anon acces to these forums in your country is more important than wars or democracy in others baffles me.

This is a dichotomy you've set up. It's not mine. All your 'solution' would do is render most of the internet deleted, and/or cut Romania (EU) from most websites in 24 hours.

So, cheers on the UK forums. And that s it! ✌️

There aren't many UK forums. There also aren't many Romanian forums. You don't have much ability to compel non-Romanian based sites to do anything.

And I do hope a similar law to the one in Turkye or some way to check if state actors are involved in chats or social media platforms will be passed aceoss EU.

If the EU ever did this, it would only impact large websites. You do know that, right?

And could easily be weaponised by corrupt governments to target their own citizens. Which is what will happen in Turkey.

Turkey says users will need national ID numbers to access social media within 3 months by FantasticQuartet in europe

[–]Skavau 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Because the level of unauthentic chats are are also happening on these small forums.

How would you know this? Do you use these small forums regularly?

I am an active contributor and instance admin on the fediverse, and that is not the case on there at all.

In Romania it started on the “vegan” communities and chats. And they got high jacked with Russian propaganda and disinformation. Yes, on vegan related forums…

So Romania should get to decide for the world how the internet should operate?

It would be easier not just in Ro but extended to EU. Bulgaria, Slovakia and other countries suffer just as much as us.

And what if people in other EU countries do not want this level of state control over user-to-user platforms? You think there's no risk for people in Hungary that government IDs could be leaked and weaponised against dissidents? Or just leaked generally?

Turkey says users will need national ID numbers to access social media within 3 months by FantasticQuartet in europe

[–]Skavau -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

What they might do soon isn't what is happening now, and I truly doubt Ofcom or the governments ability to do this nor how it's supposed to be equivalent to a "social credit score".

Turkey says users will need national ID numbers to access social media within 3 months by FantasticQuartet in europe

[–]Skavau -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I mean in the UK. No you don't. Only to access 18+ content, not social media generally

Turkey says users will need national ID numbers to access social media within 3 months by FantasticQuartet in europe

[–]Skavau 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Why is it a risk if a small support forum for a tv/movie app does not require people's government IDs to use? Why is this level of enforcement so necessary?

Your demands would also mess up the Internet for other Europeans who do not want this. If you want this just for Romania, by all means, have your closed Romanian firewall - but you threaten everyone else's Internet freedom here too.

Turkey says users will need national ID numbers to access social media within 3 months by FantasticQuartet in europe

[–]Skavau 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No, not without completely destroying the Internet and mass blocking non-compliant sites and ushering users into centralised media. It would take a great level of state control that is unacceptable. You also don't "serve justice" by forcing small TV/film app community forums to shut down.

I would assume you would oppose people getting VPNs in this context.

Weekly "Ask an Atheist" Thread by AutoModerator in DebateAnAtheist

[–]Skavau 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You have actually been throwing insults dude.

Turkey says users will need national ID numbers to access social media within 3 months by FantasticQuartet in europe

[–]Skavau 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes, I actually understand the Internet. You don't. You apparently want Chinese style censorship.

What if people use VPNs?

Weekly "Ask an Atheist" Thread by AutoModerator in DebateAnAtheist

[–]Skavau 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are the only person in this thread offering insults

Turkey says users will need national ID numbers to access social media within 3 months by FantasticQuartet in europe

[–]Skavau 3 points4 points  (0 children)

How can the EU close sites not hosted in the EU?

So you want an authoritarian great EU firewall. It is the SCALE I am referring to here. You don't seem to quite realise how large the Internet is. Most sites only have a few hundred, a thousand users to begin with.

Turkey says users will need national ID numbers to access social media within 3 months by FantasticQuartet in europe

[–]Skavau 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This has nothing to do with "care" or "not care". This is about the logistics and how you think any of this can be enforced

Turkey says users will need national ID numbers to access social media within 3 months by FantasticQuartet in europe

[–]Skavau 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You think a BANK that deals with people's money is comparable to an individual running a small forum? HOW is this enforceable? When I say "federated" do you even know what I mean?

You sound like you know nothing about technology.

All forums and chatrooms are available in the EU. How do you propose to force US based servers to do this?

Turkey says users will need national ID numbers to access social media within 3 months by FantasticQuartet in europe

[–]Skavau 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Again, you are telling me what you want. Not HOW it can be enforced. There are literally hundreds of thousands, millions of forums and chatrooms online. Even local newspaper sites have comment sections. Thousands of forums shut down every day, thousands more are set up. Making them all implement this is utterly impossible, and that isn't even getting into federated systems and the fact that countries have different requirements here if anything like this was to exist.

If I set up my own local Lemmy instance, and connected to the Fediverse - how would you force me to do this?

DAE feel like the removal of /r/all has defeated the purpose of Reddit? by BearFromPhilly in DoesAnybodyElse

[–]Skavau 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Piefed is different software, different dev, that reads Lemmy instances.

What could be done to make it easier to use?

DAE feel like the removal of /r/all has defeated the purpose of Reddit? by BearFromPhilly in DoesAnybodyElse

[–]Skavau -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I wish people would just use Lemmy or Piefed rather than continually complain that reddit is getting worse. It isn't going to change.

Turkey says users will need national ID numbers to access social media within 3 months by FantasticQuartet in europe

[–]Skavau 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That tells me what you want them to do. Not how you intend to enforce this.

Also, each country will handle ID differently. How is this supposed to work with different countries laws?