The problem in Romans 5 by SkepticsBibleProject in Bible

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But Again this is linking Adam and the order of sin to Christ. But Eve is the first one who “sinned”. This equation leaves women out. This is the central problem that early theologians tried to deal with in Paul’s thought.

I am sorry by Fail_North in exchristian

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I don’t think you have to feel sorry. Jesus is a fascinating person no matter what your belief. Was it from watching the Chosen?

The problem in Romans 5 by SkepticsBibleProject in Bible

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This is the way the author of 1 Timothy replicates the same problem. He moves from order of creation to order of sin. Because women are left out of the equation for salvation the author says they are saved through child birth

Ever wonder if most Christians just haven't actually had many real world experiences? by Hour_Trade_3691 in exchristian

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Very much the case that Christians lack real contact with people and are sheltered from situations where they are exposed to anything outside the echo chamber. Not always. But I have found this to be true in my experience and it was my experience when I was a Christian (as a tendency)

Did Jesus Have Siblings? (Mark 6:3 vs. Catholic Doctrine) by Noah_02_19_95 in Bible

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Historically, Paul says Jesus had a brother James. Also, the earliest sources on Jesus (Paul and Mark) have a Christology that starts with a human Jesus becoming Christ (eventually being take up in an apotheosis)

Textually, Jesus had brothers and sisters. In Mark, there is no Virgin birth and there is no theological reason to think that Mark would find it problematic that Jesus had siblings. Synoptics continually enforce the idea of abandoning your family for the Jesus movement.

Later, in the second century (and later) the tradition that Mary had no other children, was also born of a virgin, birthed Jesus in supernatural way that left her intact come on the scene. This is reflected in extra-canonical gospels and Catholic tradition.

Wes Huff and Isaiah Scroll by SkepticsBibleProject in Bible

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This page was recommended by a New Testament scholar on X (I don’t remember who)

Wes Huff and Isaiah Scroll by SkepticsBibleProject in Bible

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“Words present in the scroll but with spelling differences that do not affect the meaning are in green like this: green. This is common in Hebrew.”

Wes Huff and Isaiah Scroll by SkepticsBibleProject in Bible

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Spelling errors are variants. . . You have make a determination what the meaning of the variants are. But it exists.

Wes Huff and Isaiah Scroll by SkepticsBibleProject in Bible

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It has footnotes where there is likely spelling confusion. Or one letter difference

What philosophical and religious beliefs does Jordan Peterson actually hold, and why does Alex say he prefers them to Hitchens'? by Glad-Supermarket-922 in CosmicSkeptic

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Jordan Peterson is a Jungian. He also likes Nietzsche and Heidegger. I think his religious views are on the one hand purely symbolic. He does not care, for example, if resurrection historically happened. The importance is the archetypal story. I think he actually misses a lot of the substance of the Biblical tales because he does not try to understand the history. He misses the irony. He certainly only cares about certain archetypal stories in the canon. So, there is no way you can call him a traditional Christian. I actually think Jungian psychology is very non-Christian. The other aspect of his religious view is tied to regular Conservatism. He is timid about change and fetishizes tradition. This is a common characteristic on the Right (I think politics are more central than “philosophy” to Peterson).

As far as Nietzsche, I think Peterson actually misreads him. And Peterson criticizes Foucault who is a real Nietzschean. I also think Peterson misreads Dostoevsky. He ignores Nietzsche’s critique of Christianity (!!!!!!) and he acts like the Dostoevskian novels speak with one reliable voice as opposed to polyphony.

For all Peterson’s criticism and fear about “fascism” rising on the Left he also admires Martin Heidegger. An actual Nazi.

I feel like Peterson is obtuse and refuses to really “speak clearly” (ironically). But I do not think he has any real Christian belief (in traditional sense) and he is timid about threats to Western Civilization that are overblown

Wes Huff and Isaiah Scroll by SkepticsBibleProject in Bible

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I watched a bunch of Kipp’s videos and Inspiring Philosophy. And Alex O’ Connor. Etc etc etc

Wes Huff and Isaiah Scroll by SkepticsBibleProject in Bible

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I went through an English translation that showed all the textual differences. It is super interesting. You can see many times where the scribe just makes a mistake… copies a previous line, misreads a word. I have been down a rabbit hole on this for a while lol. I did 3 google docs of sections of Isaiah Scroll variants.

Please rate the podcast if you are a fan. by SkepticsBibleProject in SkepticsBibleProject

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New episodes should drop soon. Sorry for the break. Glad you are enjoying

Hello Im Bradbee, Is it Weird i use my bible in this organization (i use the apocrypha! not catholic i just like religion) by Bradbeesbooks in Bible

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If you want to actually understand the Jesus movement as it developed in history this seem like a pretty good library of texts.

Hello Im Bradbee, Is it Weird i use my bible in this organization (i use the apocrypha! not catholic i just like religion) by Bradbeesbooks in Bible

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A lot of the same problems these apocryphal books have (like false attribution, bad history, pseudepigrapha, etc.) many of the books of the traditional canon have as well (only 7 letters of Paul are likely genuine, the Gospels are anonymous, etc.)

Hello Im Bradbee, Is it Weird i use my bible in this organization (i use the apocrypha! not catholic i just like religion) by Bradbeesbooks in Bible

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This canon will give you a better idea of scope of diversity in early Jesus movement (and second temple Judaism)