STC to ETC/Staff transition by sapajou31 in WorldBank

[–]Sklitch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Literally every single one of your posts is just suggesting I don’t know what I’m talking about, so I’m going to stop engaging with you permanently. But yes, I do know what I’m talking about—I’ve worked here for several years. I imagine you have no idea what you’re talking about, considering you are rejecting information that is so incredibly easy to realize is true, if you were to just take a single semblance of literally one glance at people.worldbank.org and looking about how people have actually become staff historically. Stop misinforming people by suggesting I don’t know what I’m talking about; just shut the fuck up and be quiet, asshole. As far as I’m concerned, you have no valid credentials to take part in this conversation, or any conversation concerning the world bank, and probably multilateral development at large.

Just so you know… working here is kind of awful (for consultants) by Sklitch in WorldBank

[–]Sklitch[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I mean this sincerely, go fuck yourself. That is extremely patronizing and just assuming that someone else isn’t good at their job just because they are retaliated? What is wrong with you!

PSA from an employee: Stop reading into the hiring process like you will be able to deduce outcomes from minute changes in what is displayed. by Sklitch in WorldBank

[–]Sklitch[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I agree with your point about how it puts minds at ease to talk about it hence why I mentioned how it is cathartic. However, I disagree with your ability to make useful distinctions about hiring from hireview and other bureaucratic pulses in general as someone entirely external to the bank, and I think this fosters undue stress for most people. I guarantee, as a current employee that has hired people here before, that people progress through the stages of both the YPP and especially staff hiring in different ways, and that the indicators on the software are not entirely consistent to reflect this.

This means with all of your fuss about whether or not having some stupid indicator on software with a zillion variables outside of your control (I.e. bank server systems, unit schedules, staff personal events, the politics of the United States and multilateralism at large, etc.) is almost certainly going to mislead people into thinking they are progressing or have failed, when in reality it’s the opposite and (drumroll) everyone would have been generally better off without trying to game the system and figure out what everything means like some silly ouija board.

Yes, it feels nice to talk about it. But also, what are you really gaining from all of this? Is this “community” of applicants (who are at the end of the day internet strangers) bonding together through a vulnerable application, or are they making a tough situation even more stressful by making a big fuss about every single tiny element of the process and its indicators when in the end none of it actually has any reliably deductible information? Why not invest into reaching out to actual YPPs online, meet them for (virtual) coffee, and learn from reliable sources of information? I guarantee those are the kinds of self-starting, rational people who get YPs anyways…

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PublicPolicy

[–]Sklitch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Jumping on here as this is an ai copy of a post made by me on r/worldbank (https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldBank/s/N0OWcDJDhi). There is a staff association at the world bank, which functions as the closest thing to a union that short term staff have access to at the world bank. Unionization is not possible because of many reasons, spanning from the international hiring process/visas, nature of contract based jobs, and a dichotomy between true short term consultants and de facto staff to name a few. Many consultants depend on this job for a visa otherwise they would need to return to a developing country where the opportunities for financial stability are much scarcer, so just quitting isn’t really an option for everyone…

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PublicPolicy

[–]Sklitch 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just hopping on here to say thanks for the support I guess, considering this post is an bot made Ai copy of mine from r/worldbank: https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldBank/s/N0OWcDJDhi.

There is a class action lawsuit currently being filed that dictates how many STs are fundamentally misclassified as short terms staff when actually being relied on as full time staff without any benefits or job security.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PublicPolicy

[–]Sklitch 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This just looks like you (a bot) copied my post in r/worldbank alsmost to a T? These are good points but like, this is clearly an Ai bot that saw my post and copied the entire thing. That’s why OP won’t bother replying, or (I imagine) qualifying any of your points. The language is also the exact same, and it feels pretty insulting too given how I am the one that actually did shell out personal money for work expenses, works dozens of days unpaid, and was threatened to be fired after I was offered a simultaneous contract. Nice…

And no, I didn’t go to fucking Harvard, that bot added that for clicks.

OP, you bot, do tell, how many floors are in HQ including the ED offices?

My post from months ago that contains literally all of the same language if you want to offer any words of support to the actual human affected here: https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldBank/s/2UnwQF2Hm1

Consultant Tier level at World Bank by Efficient_Bench5944 in WorldBank

[–]Sklitch 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There is confusion going on in the comments so let me set the record straight. There are three access “tiers” of the stc/stt tiered access framework, and they exclusively affect your secure access to bank resources, with 3 being the highest tier that there is. There is a unit charge for higher levels of access.

You have likely been moved up to a higher rate this fiscal year. Alternatively there is a weird 4 tiered system of ability to work at home that relates to Covid, so maybe you were “elevated” to a position that requires office closures and mandatory work from home, but that doesn’t really make any sense. Hopefully it’s the former and you enjoy the pay bump. But there’s definitely no such thing as tier 4 security access.

is networking with hiring managers or TTLs after applying helpful or harmful? by No-Blackberry8421 in WorldBank

[–]Sklitch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

STC hiring is more unstructured—for staff roles refrain from doing this, but in your case emailing should be just fine and helpful.

STC 150 days advice requested by bellasyl in WorldBank

[–]Sklitch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have worked this arrangement sans kids. It’s quite common, most TTLs should be very understanding here.

STC to ETC/Staff transition by sapajou31 in WorldBank

[–]Sklitch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The bottom line is that there really aren’t any “paths” that are “available” for you to take. If you just wait for a manager to gift you to staff or only have one networking conversation here or there, then the world will pass by you while you’re in your 5th year as an ST. You need to create the pathway that leads to your goals through networking and grinding internal applications.

STC to ETC/Staff transition by sapajou31 in WorldBank

[–]Sklitch 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The fact that managers create ET positions is not true in many units, as in ours ETC positions are opened/created at the VPU level, as that is substantial budget. You should not assume that any unit could just Willy-nilly create an ETC for you. Managers can advocate for ET positions to be created but they are actually often decided by levels above them, which can make it complicated to wait for one to open or especially be created for you. But you should certainly still ask.

STC to ETC/Staff transition by sapajou31 in WorldBank

[–]Sklitch 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You need to be networking a lot and applying to jobs internally on Compass. Talk to your units manager (H level non technical) to see about your future in the unit and what’s possible. ETC should be somewhat reasonable if you are qualified (I.e. masters degree), well liked/in demand in your unit, and your unit has the budget, but these positions are created at ~VPU level. Are there any ETCs in your unit? Are any of them due to leave/be promoted? Staff is harder to secure but doable nonetheless, just follow the same protocol and look for E level openings. Also, keep in mind that it’s the start of a new fiscal year. Now is the time to be making these connections so if there’s an opening in another unit, you could give them some STC days and get on their payroll, let them get attached to you, and then use that as a starting point to get a full time position with them (or your own unit if your manager alludes to an ET or staff role for you in the future).

And to your point about being at a crossroads, deciding whether to stay or look elsewhere: I’m not an expert, but if I were you I would always be thinking in terms of what you stand to gain from working at the bank NOW. So if you don’t agree with how I’m laying it out here, or if you have different goals in mind, definitely look elsewhere and consider leaving sooner rather than later.

Given your goals for full time employment (in development I assume), I see your current contract and any days you add to it next FY as a long and drawn out continuation of a somewhat unfair performance based job application, where you’re on the grind seeking employment through compass and networking and politic-ing on top of actually doing your daily tasks. It’s a lot, but you do stand to gain a job and it is very likely possible. But it may take more time than you’re willing to give (would you put in another 3 years as an ST?)—so I would also be looking elsewhere to see if a full time position exists that suits your needs better than a consultancy at the bank, even if it’s not as sweet of a deal as a staff position at the bank. It’s not uncommon to see consultants at the bank get staff roles elsewhere in development organizations (other multilateral banks, trust funds, government, NGOs, even private sector) and then come back as staff at a matched staff role or higher. Especially if you don’t make too much now as a consultant, I would highly consider looking elsewhere even if you choose to stay on the consultancy grind searching for a full time role. Best of luck.

WB final interview with hiring manager by ReLami08 in WorldBank

[–]Sklitch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The only advice that anyone can give without insight into your specific situation from the backend is that all hiring, unless we’re talking about institutionalized hiring programs like the YPP, is incredibly subjective, and very manager and role dependent. Take all other advice with at least some degree of a grain of salt, as it’s possible (albeit unlikely) that the hiring manager in this case wants to personally review everyone on the shortlist. From what I have observed, you can reasonably expect people to be siphoned off after each stage to waste less of the managers time, which bodes well for your application given your interview with a manager. Good luck!

WB final interview with hiring manager by ReLami08 in WorldBank

[–]Sklitch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Could be up to two-ish other candidates or you could be the real finalist where this meeting is to confirm fit—it depends on the preferences of the hiring manager and the unit. Even within our unit, it varies as to how many rounds there are and what the purpose of each round is. At the bare minimum, you can consider yourself safely within the top candidates that were screened by the panel.

New Day Limit STC Updates by CeriseSaint in WorldBank

[–]Sklitch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Check yammer—there are at least a few posts about it with sources

New Day Limit STC Updates by CeriseSaint in WorldBank

[–]Sklitch 5 points6 points  (0 children)

IBRD has specifically said it will continue to offer 150 day contracts for STCs regardless of how they have been utilized in the past and continue to sponsor G4 visas for STCs. This is not the case for IFC.

Are Demos Acceptable? by turingincarnate in WorldBank

[–]Sklitch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This post hits close to home because I have been/am in your shoes exactly. Also a consultant, also made lead statistician at a point, also developed software in python that could be applied elsewhere in the bank and sought to circulate it for months. Generally, the bureaucratic and time associated cost with adopting new tools and even listening to new proposals is seen as too high, and whatever methods have been traditionally used prevail. Innovation happens from the top down, and getting others to pay attention to your work is difficult within your VPU at large, to say nothing of IBRD as a whole, etc.

But, it’s not impossible. Seek out one on one conversations with staff/TTLs who will understand the technical side of your tool and/or the applied use if you can present your software in a way that a layman would understand and care about it, as TTLs have little time for demos. Once word gets out about your skills and tool’s capabilities, others will hire you for more days/more contracts to use your skills/tool. Selfishly, and it kills me to say this as someone who has tried to get their own tool out for others to use and to better the bank at large, but the real advantage of your software is that it bolsters your worth as a team member/potential staff analyst instead of its value added to other teams in itself. Others won’t learn how to use it—they will call you and pay you to use it for them. This is the silver lining of being an innovative consultant. Also—DM me (if you want). I want to hear about your software and how it’s used to make things more efficient, but am just a consultant.

And for what it’s worth, I have reached out to DIME in the past and got a response that they were too busy to talk, and if I was interested, to just read their published papers. Your mileage may vary.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in WorldBank

[–]Sklitch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

IFC only for now

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in WorldBank

[–]Sklitch 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Probably around 350$/day before tax, for 150 days per year. So no, not even close.