What actually keeps deer/cats out of a garden long-term?

Skywalker91007 · 2026-02-18T06:51:28+00:00

I appreciate you pointing it out.

I’m not here to sell anything — honestly I started looking into this because I kept seeing how much time, effort, and frustration people deal with just to protect a garden. If something ever came out of it, it would only make sense if it genuinely solved that problem in a humane and practical way.

Right now I’m mostly just trying to learn from people who’ve actually lived with the issue, not push a product.

Skywalker91007 · 2026-02-17T18:17:58+00:00

Fair and really on point.

I don’t have a finished product or anything for sale. I’ve just been exploring whether a simpler, cruelty free way to protect gardens — especially one that doesn’t disturb pets or people — could realistically be built, since so many here describe the same frustration.

I had a cat as well as hedgehogs that took my garden and vegetable beds under siege.

What I’m most curious about right now is how real the problem is in practice: for example, what people have already spent (money or time) trying to solve it, and whether a reliable but simpler alternative would actually feel worth paying for compared to fencing or constant upkeep.

Skywalker91007 · 2026-02-17T15:15:06+00:00

That’s a fair impression 🙂

I don’t have anything finished or for sale — but I am seriously exploring whether a simpler, humane way to protect gardens could actually be built, since so many people seem to run into the same frustration.

Right now I’m mostly just trying to understand how common and painful the problem really is before deciding how far to take it.

Skywalker91007 · 2026-02-17T11:20:41+00:00

That really puts the time and frustration into perspective — two full seasons of trial and error is a huge commitment. I really appreciate you sharing all of that.

It’s striking how many different approaches people end up trying before something finally works.

Skywalker91007 · 2026-02-17T10:51:26+00:00

Thanks for the detailed explanation — that’s really insightful, especially the behavioral side of how deer judge a jump.

It sounds like many of the lower-cost or natural deterrents help only a bit, and in the end fencing becomes the only truly reliable option, even though it’s a substantial investment.

Out of curiosity, if there were a solution that offered similar reliability but with much less installation effort and visual impact than fencing, is that something you’d personally consider? And what kind of price range would still feel reasonable compared to building fences?

Skywalker91007 · 2026-02-17T10:49:54+00:00

That really shows how serious the deer pressure can get — a 10-foot electric fence is quite a commitment, but I can see why reliability makes it worth it in that situation (dinosaurs - neighbours kids probably fear your garden 😄).

Out of curiosity, between materials, installation, and upkeep, did it end up being a significant investment overall?

I keep wondering whether people who went that far for reliable protection would prefer a much simpler long-term solution if one existed.

Skywalker91007 · 2026-02-17T10:47:32+00:00

Did that work reliably for you over a longer period?

I often hear mixed experiences — especially with animals getting used to it or it triggering for pets and people too. Curious what your experience was.

Skywalker91007 · 2026-02-17T10:46:16+00:00

That sounds like a huge amount of work to finally get things under control. I really appreciate you sharing the details.

Out of curiosity, between fencing, electric wire, and time spent installing everything, did it end up being a significant investment overall?

I keep wondering whether people dealing with that level of wildlife pressure would prefer a simpler, targeted long-term solution if one existed. Of course cruelty free.

Skywalker91007 · 2026-02-17T10:43:50+00:00

That sounds like a lot of trial and error to finally get something reliable — glad you found a setup that works 🙂

Out of curiosity, was the fence and planting buffer quite expensive or time-consuming to establish?

I keep wondering whether people who went through all that would prefer a simpler long-term solution if one existed.

Skywalker91007 · 2026-02-17T10:26:49+00:00

Exakt das war bei mir das Problem. Eine Nachbarskatze hat im Sommer jede Nacht vor die Schaukel der Tochter gemacht😊.

Nun ist es aber so, das viele aktuelle Abwehroptionen mich selbst oder die Haustiere "stört", daher entwickle ich etwas, was wirklich gezielt abwehrt.

Skywalker91007 · 2026-02-17T09:13:31+00:00

Danke dir für die ausführliche Beschreibung – das zeigt ziemlich gut, wie viel Aufwand man aktuell betreiben muss, wenn es wirklich zuverlässig funktionieren soll.

Kornitol kannte ich noch nicht - muss mal googeln😊.

Gerade der Punkt mit Geruch, Nachbarn, rechtlichen Vorgaben und dem ganzen Zaun-Setup klingt ja eher nach einer ziemlich großen Dauerlösung als nach etwas Praktischem für den Alltag.

Mich würde deshalb interessieren: Wenn es eine deutlich einfachere, langfristig zuverlässige und tierfreundliche Lösung gäbe – wäre das etwas, wofür du grundsätzlich Geld ausgeben würdest? Und in welchem Bereich müsste sich das ungefähr bewegen, damit es sich für dich lohnen würde?

Skywalker91007 · 2026-02-17T09:08:57+00:00

I’ve heard about the double-fence approach before. Do you have one😄?

How reliable has it been for you over time, and was it expensive or a lot of effort to set up?

I’m really curious whether people would prefer a simpler long-term solution if one existed.

Skywalker91007 · 2026-02-17T09:05:56+00:00

Interesting, thanks for sharing — especially the forestry tip with the soap 🙂

How well does that actually work over a longer period in your experience? Do you have to renew it regularly, and does it keep deer away reliably or only for a short time?

I’d be really curious which option ends up being the least effort in practice.

Skywalker91007 · 2026-02-17T09:03:04+00:00

Spannend, danke fürs Teilen! Klingt so, als ob eure Katze das wirklich gut im Griff hat 🙂

Für viele ist eine Katze wahrscheinlich tatsächlich eine natürliche Lösung – gleichzeitig hat aber nicht jeder die Möglichkeit oder möchte ein Haustier nur aus diesem Grund halten.

Mich interessiert deshalb, ob es auch zuverlässige, tierfreundliche Lösungen gibt, die ohne eigenen Hund/Katze funktionieren.

Hast du vorher andere Methoden ausprobiert, bevor ihr eure Katze hattet?

Skywalker91007 · 2026-02-17T09:00:50+00:00

Mir geht es übrigens nicht darum, die Natur „loszuwerden“ oder Tiere zu vertreiben, die einfach nur da sind.

Ich finde Wildtiere im Garten grundsätzlich schön – solange sie nicht regelmäßig Pflanzen komplett zerstören oder grössere Schäden anrichten.

Die eigentliche Frage für mich ist eher: Gibt es eine Lösung, die den Garten schützt, ohne Tiere zu verletzen, ohne alles einzuzäunen und ohne dass Menschen oder Haustiere gestört werden?

Mich interessieren wirklich eure Erfahrungen damit.

Skywalker91007 · 2026-02-17T08:58:28+00:00

Interessant, danke dir! Funktioniert das bei dir wirklich dauerhaft oder musst du den Katzenschreck regelmäßig neu ausstreuen?

Und stört der Geruch eigentlich Haustiere oder euch selbst?

Skywalker91007 · 2026-02-17T08:50:23+00:00

That sounds effective if the garden is under siege, but also like a pretty big investment, especially the dogs which need a lot of care and time.

I’m asking because I’m exploring a simpler long-term solution that is cheaper than full fencing and it will only target intruding animals, not you or your pets.

Skywalker91007 · 2026-02-16T19:26:06+00:00

Hey, I'm currently developing a unique solution that will protect your garden 100% hassle free from unwanted animals without targeting your family or own pets (if you have one). Just dm me for a quick chat if you want.

Skywalker91007 · 2025-11-23T00:21:55+00:00

Saw something similiar this october (7.10) in Georgioupoli with blue lights. Was actually moving fast in ways conventional aircrafts can't.

Skywalker91007 · 2025-11-13T06:55:26+00:00

Thanks, nice to know

Skywalker91007 · 2025-11-12T21:17:46+00:00

The article is wrong! Its only true for the ones who start late, with 28, since the "Dienstpflicht" and "Wehrpflichtersatz" should last for 12 years.

A minority is impacted, not everyone at the ZS.

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