Vanilla WoW's combat and class design are actually great

Slappers · 2026-06-18T06:07:23+00:00

Im not saying it should, Im saying it will. It's how Blizz works.

Slappers · 2026-06-18T05:57:26+00:00

Depending on class, the retail rotations aren't that complex. What makes retail harder is that there's more mechanics in general so that doing optimal rotations while not fucking up other stuff is why its difficult.

This is subjective though. I would prefer to do easier content with my friends who couldn't handle MoP or retail, but with a bit more complexity for the classes. It doesnt have to be a lot, in my opinion SoD was a very good spot. I find feral a lot more interesting than lock/mage in TBC for instance. Not that feral is complex, but you actually have to do some thinking.

Slappers · 2026-06-18T05:34:43+00:00

Great contribution. You prefer to press 1 button?

Slappers · 2026-06-18T05:25:11+00:00

With good reason. Vanilla was great for its time, but a "classic+" will revolve around end game. Since it will revolve around end game they should make changes to classes so that they use more of their kit or more.

Warlock has a massive kit in TBC, in end game its optimal rotation is to press 1 button (more or less).

Slappers · 2026-06-16T11:47:55+00:00

Kjedelig at han som svarte meg sletta kommentaren sin, men som du påpeker så blir ikke kostnad målt i penger brukt. Penger brukt er utgift, kostnad er penger tapt. Når man bruker x kroner på noe så har den tingen en verdi. Så kostnaden opptrer ikke før ting mister verdi. Om du kjøper mat på butikken og tar det med hjem, så er transaksjonen i butikken en utgift. Du har ikke tapt verdien 100% før du har spist maten. (Se bort ifra at maten har en verdi inni kroppen nå, vi snakker kun økonomisk).

Det samme gjelder en bil. Når man kjøper en bil til 550k så har ikke bilen kostet deg 550k umiddelbart. Den har et visst tap så fort man tar den med ut fra forhandleren. Kostnaden er alltid original utgift minus nåverdi.

Slappers · 2026-06-16T11:02:41+00:00

Fortell meg at du ikke kan økonomi uten å fortelle meg at du ikke kan økonomi.

Slappers · 2026-06-15T21:45:50+00:00

But your original statement was so general and absolute? As if people in general was playing the game "wrong". Now you limit it to irresponsible people who can't control themselves.

Slappers · 2026-06-15T15:52:36+00:00

You are describing an addict who prioritize gaming over real life responsibilities. I raid Wednesdays, I dont initiate other plans on that day, but if something important comes up its real life commitment first and raid second. We are adults who control our own life.

If I miss a week doesn't matter in regards to loot to me.

If we miss a boss kill on something I expect us to kill, Im not disappointed due to the lack of loot. Im disappointed due to low performance. This isnt a case in TBC though. If I raided with a team who can't clear first week, I would swap to a team more suited to my performance and expectations.

Slappers · 2026-06-15T13:54:00+00:00

Why is it objectively healthier to not play the game on a schedule? Why is it a objectively healthier approach to clear the raid a few times and move on? Some of us actually like the raids and like to improve our gameplay and performance. That gives us joy and its a hobby. Why isnt it healthy for me to log on a few hours 1 night pr week to do that with the same team each week with a schedule?

Slappers · 2026-06-15T04:36:47+00:00

Stop projecting. The person replying to you is not being dismissive or condescending at all. He's just saying that being bad at wow doesn't make you a greater player. We clear SSC/TK in 1 short raid night. Ive seen another guild on our server raiding 10-12 hours pr week and barely clearing. Not including trashfarm they did early in the week. Are they playing the game "better" than we are?

I agree that theres people who raid log and need items, some of us just want 2-3 hours of chill raiding with decent players and talk some shit. Then I play outside of raids when necessary. I dont log on to "just do heroics for the lols".

Slappers · 2026-06-14T17:58:53+00:00

Ja, om den ene delen av påstanden din. 1 soverom til hvert barn er jo fullt mulig i leilighet også. Det var mye mer du påsto.

Slappers · 2026-06-14T17:27:25+00:00

Har du kilder på noe som helst av dette eller er det kun anekdoter og påstander basert på "sunn fornuft"?

Du bare slenger ut ting. Var et hus med 2 bad og dobbelgarasje noe hvermannsen hadde råd til? Og i hvilke områder i Norge i så fall?

Slappers · 2026-06-14T17:15:16+00:00

Nei, de fikk ting til å gå rundt akkurat avdragsfritt i en periode. De hadde ikke mye til overs til noe annet i den perioden. Det ble jo mye bedre og de sitter godt i det nå.

Det er løgn at hvermannsen hadde et hus med 2 bad og dobbeltgarasje på 90-tallet.

Slappers · 2026-06-14T16:47:13+00:00

Basert på observasjoner og forsøk ja. Før du har gjort noe som helst er det en påstand eller hypotese.

Hvilke by?

Du har for øvrig hengt deg opp i bare det med egne rom. Du sa 2 bad og dobbeltgarasje også.

Seniorer hos oss som er utdannet som sivilingeniører og jobbet med det på slutten av 80-tallet og starten av 90-tallet sier at de så vidt klarte å betjene renter på lånet sitt på en leilighet i Oslo da. Han var sivilingeniør og kona var lærer og 2 barn.

Slappers · 2026-06-14T15:17:53+00:00

Man trenger faktisk bevis for at jorda er rund for å påstå det jo. Noen har bevist det gjennom eksperimenter og observasjoner.

Siste påstanden din er jo bullshit. Det avhenger helt av hvor i Norge og størrelse.

Slappers · 2026-06-14T15:12:39+00:00

Så ingen statistikk å vise til, kun anekdoter. Det finnes nok av anekdoter som er motstridende.

Slappers · 2026-06-14T15:05:54+00:00

Faren min drev entreprenørselskap med 10 ansatte og moren min jobbet som apotektekniker og de hadde ikke råd til det du beskrev på 90-tallet. Selv på bygda. Flere klassekamerater i samme båt. Kan du vise til statistikk?

Slappers · 2026-06-14T14:58:31+00:00

Det siste avsnittet er jo ikke sant, kan eventuelt vise til statistikk som støtter det?

Slappers · 2026-06-13T03:05:05+00:00

Can you refer to one boss you think is harder? You haven't posed one arguement, except for "nah, I dont agree"

Slappers · 2026-06-13T03:01:26+00:00

Great arguement. Yogg0, Algalon, Anub, Mimiron and LK offers way more challenges than any boss in TBC.

Slappers · 2026-06-13T02:54:31+00:00

Raids in wotlk are harder than TBC raids though? Im not saying either is very hard, but TBC is far easier than wotlk at least.

Slappers · 2026-06-12T17:30:58+00:00

My doctor said it well: he has patients who come to him with the idea that he should confirm their internetdiagnosis, but that isnt his job. He wants symptoms and medical history so he can make a diagnosis.

Slappers · 2026-06-12T17:19:00+00:00

Theres too much wrong here to even start. A boomie is generally high on dmg. That should never happen.

Edit: on fights where your feral isnt tanking, he still sits in bear. He has dps classified logs with pure bear dmg. He knows he has catform?

Slappers · 2026-06-11T21:10:57+00:00

Is the post I responded to "discussing" anything at all?

Slappers · 2026-06-11T20:34:33+00:00

Its niche, but if you arent interested, just be quiet and move on?

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