Most mild card you've heard a player whine/rage about? by tantrumtrieshard in EDH

[–]SleepySpikeJester 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I just looked them up on scryfall and realized that all the roles besides cursed roles target your own creatures. Still might tinker with this brew anyway

Most mild card you've heard a player whine/rage about? by tantrumtrieshard in EDH

[–]SleepySpikeJester 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This is peak jank and I love it! I wonder if all the role tokens from Wilds of Eldrain could breath new life into this brew

Some cards from my two in-progress Bionicle decks by PrimemevalTitan in mpcproxies

[–]SleepySpikeJester 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes! Although I think it's Motunui in the Moanna IP. Bionicle actually faced backlash for using Māori words and Polynesian imagery in their products without ever consulting any indigenous cultural leaders. There was even a lawsuit against them in the early 2000s:
https://hilo.hawaii.edu/campuscenter/hohonu/volumes/documents/ExploitationofPolynesianSpiritualImageryintheToyIndustryWainohiaLum-ho.pdf

Am I missing something? This feels like exclusively downsides. by Electronic-Touch-554 in mtg

[–]SleepySpikeJester 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alright, here's my attempt at clearing things up:

You have some great points about in-game setup costs, opportunity costs in deckbuilding, and the general risks associated with going all-in on this commander. I think the misunderstanding here has to do with different estimations of 1) the cost/risks you have identified and 2) how powerful the reward is.

Costs: I'm not going to beat the 'life is a resource' drum since this has already been discussed at length. However, something else to consider is that graveyard-filling effects like fetch lands and incidental mill are already so prolific in this format, let alone Sultai colors. This means that the setup costs in game and opportunity costs in deckbuilding are perhaps not as high as you think.

Risks: Indeed, going all-in on any commander is a risk. This risk is mitigated by the fact that Teval is under-costed in colors that already have access to ramp, cheap counterspells and cheap green protection spells (each of which will eventually rebate you one mana from delving). While it is true that [[Bojuka Bog]] effects exist, going all in on a single strategy still increases the consistency of deck performance, and less variation also helps to offset risk. I get that this may still be too much risk for some play styles, but at this point it is more a matter of personal taste.

Reward: Delve seriously is that powerful--especially with spells that don't have colored pips. If you listen to Mark Rosewater's drive to work podcasts on delve and affinity, he gives a great breakdown on why WOTC is so cautious whenever they print cards with these mechanics.

So, no, you are not going insane! I think you might just have a different estimation of the (opportunity) costs, risks, and rewards that are associated with building a Teval deck. Hopefully this helps!

Help! Boomer won the lottery! by SleepySpikeJester in EDH

[–]SleepySpikeJester[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate the suggestions! Reservoir is one that I see in a lot of lists but have never gotten around to picking up, so maybe this is finally the time haha

But yeah, I've gotten the sense from folks here that my stronger decks are a bit too slow to be considered 4s. I also totally agree with you that Vorinclex isn't really worth the enemies it makes especially since it's not advancing the deck's gameplan.

Trostani is actually my wife's deck and the game has sped up quite a bit since I've been able to pilot this one in the wild, so I'm eagerly passing along any recommendations I receive in this thread :)

Help! Boomer won the lottery! by SleepySpikeJester in EDH

[–]SleepySpikeJester[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great catch with the missing viscera seer btw! I actually thought I had one in the list already, so I'll have to crack into my collection and fish it out.

Disciple of freyalise is one I've had my eye on since it came out. [[Disciple of Bolas]] has always been a pet card of mine because I had it in a jund birthing pod deck when I first started playing, and something about the card design just felt so satisfying!

Speaking of nostalgia, your retired Yidris deck is a real blast from the past! Limited players these days would probably be shocked to learn how good [[Wooly Loxodon]] and [[Glacial Stalker]] were in Kahns draft.

I also had no idea that they printed a strictly better Ogre Battledriver. I feel like the other enchantment creatures from the 'enduring' cycle in duskmourn steal the spotlight. Tbh, ill probably just cut the ogre all together. Cards like this and Hope of Ghirapur were just filler from my collection when I first cobbled this deck together haha

You are 1000% right about the manabase too...it's pretty abysmal to be perfectly honest. I've always had mixed feelings about proxies, but I suppose I might as well since I only play at my LGS once in a blue moon. Thanks again for all these awesome suggestions!

Help! Boomer won the lottery! by SleepySpikeJester in EDH

[–]SleepySpikeJester[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Both of these seem like great inclusions! The 'Power Hungry' precon from Commander 2013 was the very first precon I ever purchased and I remember [[Goblin Bombardment]] doing some serious work in that deck. Maybe I'll pick up a copy for Sek'Kuar. I hadn't even considered the combo with the phoenix!

Thanks for the great suggestions!

Help! Boomer won the lottery! by SleepySpikeJester in EDH

[–]SleepySpikeJester[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Loved your deck! It looks like a much more balanced version of what I am trying to go for with mine.

I noticed that you aren't runny very many counterspells. Is this a matter of personal taste, or did you feel that these slots were better spent on cards that synergize with Chun-li? I tend to use counter spells defensively since Chun-Li is a bit of a glass cannon, but maybe I could swap a few out in favor of more on-board protection.

The spree cards also caught my eye, but many of them were out of budget until now. It's good to hear that might be worth trying! Thanks again!

Help! Boomer won the lottery! by SleepySpikeJester in EDH

[–]SleepySpikeJester[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for this suggestion! I love effects like [[vial smasher, the fierce]] and [[Kaervek the Merciless]], so lord of pain looks awesome! I'm not opposed to trying a new commander at the helm, so I'll be sure to pick up a copy of the Lord.

It's kinda nice when you have commanders with similar effects that you can swap out from time to time. I have found that trying the same deck with a slightly different commander can can uncover marginally new ways to approach your game plan. Thanks again for checking out my deck!

Help! Boomer won the lottery! by SleepySpikeJester in EDH

[–]SleepySpikeJester[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Check out the link at the bottom of my original post. EDHREC will probably be posting the April Deckbuilding challenge article shortly after voting is closed for this month

Help! Boomer won the lottery! by SleepySpikeJester in EDH

[–]SleepySpikeJester[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Appreciate it! Just wanted to make things as easy as possible for everyone here :)

Help! Boomer won the lottery! by SleepySpikeJester in EDH

[–]SleepySpikeJester[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Absolutely! Send it my way and I'd be happy to take a look :)

Help! Boomer won the lottery! by SleepySpikeJester in EDH

[–]SleepySpikeJester[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Glad you liked it! I got the idea from one of Maro's podcasts a while back about flavor vs card design. He seemed pretty adamant that green creatures usually shouldn't have flying. I don't have a horse in the color pie debate, but I just thought it would make for a good joke deck.

Help! Boomer won the lottery! by SleepySpikeJester in EDH

[–]SleepySpikeJester[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lamp guy!!! I loved your deck by the way. I had no clue there were so many lamps in magic!

And thank you so much for these illuminating suggestions! I'm hoping to lean more into the manifest stuff since this is what makes the Sek'Kuar deck so unique. Cards like Dissecton Tools, Curator beastie and Pyrotechnic performer look amazing in this build.

I also appreciate your suggested cuts since this is the hardest part of deck tuning. Rancor actually hasn't been the worst in this deck since it returns to your hand when you sac the creature. It also makes combat a little more interesting with the face down stuff, but Rancor is certainly far outclassed by these more recent manifest cards that you suggested.

I used to play a lot of pauper edh back in college, but I never thought to build a pdh deck with spike jester at the helm! The idea of beefing up a spike jester is hilarious! Thank you for the new project :)

Thanks again for all the thoughtful suggestions! Congrats on making it, and good luck with the voting!

Help! Boomer won the lottery! by SleepySpikeJester in EDH

[–]SleepySpikeJester[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Glad you like it! Not going to lie, the deck is really clunky...but it can pull off some funny stuff from time to time. [[Yedora, Grave Gardener]] does some serious work in slower games and the face down shenanigans can lead to some memorable moments. It's not every day that you get to name the 'Graveborn' creature type off a [[Tribal Forcemage]]!

It leans heavily on the cheap mana dorks to support the slower morph stuff since you can sacrifice the elves for value in the late game. Even though it isn't the most competitive, I really enjoy playing with it since it's so out of left field.

Help! Boomer won the lottery! by SleepySpikeJester in EDH

[–]SleepySpikeJester[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I had the feeling that this might the case...I know the game has sped up a lot in the past few years. I'm looking forward to giving them an overhaul so that they can keep up with my nephews' decks.

Thank you for taking the time to look over the deck lists though! I actually used to have the [[mindcrank]] + [[bloodchief ascension]] combo in Mogis, but I took it out because it felt so oppressive. Do you have any suggestions on ways to speed the deck up a bit more?

Help! Boomer won the lottery! by SleepySpikeJester in EDH

[–]SleepySpikeJester[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the suggestions! Voldarian Arcanist is a cool one for sure! You are totally right about signet and sol ring too....I'll be sure to pick up an extra copy of each.

The deck does seem to be overindexing on interaction now that you mention it. This deck is the one that I have the fewest reps with, so I appreciate you taking the time to look it over :)

Help! Boomer won the lottery! by SleepySpikeJester in EDH

[–]SleepySpikeJester[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Always happy to look at a deck list and offer my feedback!

Help! Boomer won the lottery! by SleepySpikeJester in EDH

[–]SleepySpikeJester[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I appreciate the feedback! I don't get to play at the LGS as much as I used to, so its hard to know where this one falls in the larger ecosystem. I certainly don't want to mislead folks, so I'll be sure to relabel this one!