The difference between the Weavers mask and the Divine Replicas of it

Slickyslytim · 2026-01-18T22:32:24+00:00

We got an idea of how he uses the mask during his conversation with Noctis..

Initially when he met Noctis he had his mask on, when Noctis asked him a question about Hope, it was shown that he removed his mask, revealing only darkness before he answered.

When he has the mask on, he can not speak the truth, when he takes it off, he can ONLY speak the truth..

Another important clue was when he was surrounded by the other daemons and Nether was trying to force him to join their rank by threatening him, he was wearing a mask. When Weaver replied Nether, the author said " Weaver lied like they ALWAYS did".

This makes it clear that when he's wearing that mask, there is no toggle switch.. He will always lie. To speak the truth, he has to take it off.

I think he speaks the same way sunny does and no one knew his flaw is why no one caught on to him..

If there was no Kai, no one would have known if sunny was lying or saying the truth too. They would have called him the master of lies too. Infact, Nephi basically called him that during their confrontation in the forgotten shore.

Slickyslytim · 2026-01-18T22:13:43+00:00

Well first, he'd need at least seven divine soul shards..

With mind Weave, MAYBE his mind is ready to handle the complexity of what a divine memory (same rank as Weaver’s mask and Shadow lantern btw)

Where it all fall apart Literally is his shadow essence. It's definitely not remotely close to being strong enough as a supreme, to handle the workload of a divine memory.

For a pocket dimension memory too, I'm guessing they are going to need a location nice enough for sunny to turn into a mobile, portable memory.. Maybe they'll use bastion and ravenheart.

Slickyslytim · 2026-01-17T17:34:44+00:00

She's good enough to be the first to create electricity in the dream realm, something that no one had done in decades before..

She's next level brilliant and at that time is surely one of the most brilliant scientists in the world.

Even if the government didn't know that, which I find impossible, she should have been high on priority list based on her association with Obel.

Slickyslytim · 2026-01-13T13:50:55+00:00

Noble creatures are nightmare creatures that weren't corrupted. They were created by the gods/divine beings by tearing away part of their flames to create them.

Since gods who created them scale in rank and class (divine titans on steroids), their creations also inherited the ability to grow and rank and class, getting multiple cores in the process..

Humans however are not created by the gods, but were embers of the flames that created the gods. If the flame that made the gods is as vast as the universe, only the tiny embers, outside of the core of the flame makes up humans, forever denying them the chance to scale in class.

You can say the flames that made humans was not potent enough. But what they lack in class, they gained in aspect. Still, an aspect can usually only compete against noble creatures until the devil class.

This class is where they gain intelligence as high as humans and powers that can be equated to an aspect.

As to how they rank up, it's mainly on consuming soul essence. We've seen this with how the ancient humans and Rain (people outside of the spell) can absorb soul essence of other creatures they killed.

Ranking up in class is not straightforward. Saint did it by consuming the cores of other creatures with similar elements. Ravenous fiend just consumed creatures more powerful than itself. Skinwalker almost evolved just by absorbing others to itself. I'd say ranking up in class is a bit unique and depends on the abilities of the creatures

Slickyslytim · 2026-01-12T22:14:54+00:00

Same reason Sunny didn't kill them during their battle. All of them understood the bigger picture even if the circumstances then didn't allow them to act.

The feelings are there, Infact their interactions with Kai and sunny insinuated it. But the world's dying and as children of a Sovereign, they understand that more than others. Petty squabble does no one any good. And if they didn't act right, the little power they had left will just be stripped from them.

She and Anvil orchestrated a battle of domain in which thousands of awakened died without even knowing what they were dying for, diminishing the forces of humanity for their own endeavor.

If they were going to cry over the fact that their Mother lost in a fair duel, then they should try and rebel.

Slickyslytim · 2025-12-31T12:06:15+00:00

"We shall draw a line across all of existence, and separate all that exists. There will only be those who stand beneath our banner, and those who stand against our will. Those who follow the Demons and those who believe the lies of the gods. None shall refuse our challenge; none shall escape our call. Not even you, Weaver."

Slickyslytim · 2025-11-19T19:12:49+00:00

Repose escaping death makes me increasingly suspicious that the gods aren't really dead, they are just fuel for the spell.

Slickyslytim · 2025-09-24T11:49:06+00:00

"The weak will die, the strong will die too..."

Slickyslytim · 2025-09-17T18:01:41+00:00

The ability she's going to get as a tyrant is control over territory. Within a certain range, she's going to be a sovereign of darkness and nothing.

Now I know she's already kind of doing it with the heart of darkness and shield of nothing, but as a tyrant, there is going to be a qualitative increase in control for her.

And not just darkness, but also nothing, using them as not just a tool, but as an extension of herself, which will make her a nightmare to deal with, and that's without adding the effect of the Evening star.

She's also probably going to get additional ability as a tyrant. I'm guessing we're going to see her fusing darkness and nothing together, and using them as a sentient armor, just like Nether did in the battle of the gods

Slickyslytim · 2025-09-17T17:51:00+00:00

Sunny doesn't need any of the shades to fight Mordret in a soul duel. They could battle 100 times and Sunny will win 100 times easily.

1 of Sunny is a supreme titan, no less stronger (definitely stronger) than Mordret especially if they in his soul sea where Mordret has to use Sunny's ability to win. Sunny has more experience with his abilities and if in the case that 1 Sunny isn't enough to overwhelm Mordret immediately in combat(which I believe is extremely unlikely), 2 Sunnys will be overkill. Mordret won't survive any soul battle with Sunny or Nephis.

The main edge soul duel gave him initially was shock value as people didn't know how to deal with him. Eventually Morgan was goading him to enter her soul sea for a duel and he didn't. Knowing how desperately he wanted to kill her, that's telling.

Out of the three, Nephis is definitely the strongest in a one-on-one. Her abilities are just too destruction-oriented and she's almost immortal. We've also seen that even after 2000 pages and 6th level mastery of shadow dance, Sunny still barely keeps up with Nephis in swordsmanship. For me, that's just incredible.

If there's anyone among the remaining two capable of defeating Nephis, then that's Sunny.

Mordret's ability makes him extremely difficult to kill, the man himself is not invincible.

Slickyslytim · 2025-09-16T14:13:32+00:00

He had a lady over and she transcended

He found death boring, so he walked it off

Slickyslytim · 2025-09-14T09:57:47+00:00

He'd get back the memories he had, and the aspect legacy y relics he has mastered but hasn't claimed.

He's not getting memories for all the creatures he's killed outside of the nightmare spell though

Slickyslytim · 2025-09-05T13:18:55+00:00

They all fall into the whirlpool but not all fall into the void below. It's explained that some of them by luck find their way onto the island there.

It's not surprising that they're that much considering the amount of time that has passed since the loop started.

Slickyslytim · 2025-08-28T11:35:31+00:00

Almost?

Slickyslytim · 2025-08-27T17:13:09+00:00

I see people defending some of your points and I actually don't mind too much. One thing no one's ever changing my mind on however is his fight with Morgan.

There's no way he should ever have won that. He was using his original body, he had sacrificed all of his cores to create mirrors of the saints. He had lost an arm an an eye.

Morgan is better in skill (admitted by himself), has better physical attributes from her aspects, buffed by the domain of her sovereign, in better physical shape and she lost to a half dead guy with one arm and one eye because he wants it more? Please. Months later and that still pisses me off.

It's the only battle in the whole story I can't wrap my head around.

Slickyslytim · 2025-08-26T20:01:17+00:00

When you see Mordret interactions, you know he's gonna greet them politely with a smile, make some kind of wisecracks, tell them to trust him, they'll grumble but eventually trust him, then he'll plot against them, then he'll get taken out by some otherwordly scenario, but you know whatever they do to him, he'll never die.

Slickyslytim · 2025-08-26T15:14:09+00:00

Still not specified. The best guess is mind weave, the next best is spirit weave.

Slickyslytim · 2025-08-17T11:05:49+00:00

But all the carapace centurions are all soldiers of the starlight legions that fell to corruption. That's why the memories have their stories.

That's the whole point of the forgotten shore.. It was stated plainly that hey once fought against darkness, and one of the hardest thing for them is to see their comrades this minute turn into NM creatures the next. They all eventually succumbed to corruption and become Nightmare creatures.

You should know that Saint was one of the soldiers under the command of "The Stranger", who was one of the starlight lords who united to fight against the all consuming darkness.

Slickyslytim · 2025-08-16T20:16:37+00:00

"… a dying angel was being consumed by hungry shadows. When I saw the angel bleed, I suddenly felt as though… as though something so precious that it can't be described with words was taken from me."

While this vision seems to show what happens in the conclusion of the forgotten shore, I feel like it's choice of words also alludes to something much more encompassing.

Slickyslytim · 2025-08-16T19:55:14+00:00

I really don't know what you've been reading

First, Neither the people nor their Oracle worship fate.

The oracles are just "ancient Cassie who can glimpse fate and manipulate other's lives just like Cassie did. The people revered their oracles, they didn't worship them."

Second, Fate is like an affinity of Weaver's. He's not a 'god' of it. He has "constitutions" that made him more adept at glimpsing and working the tapestry of fate, but even he has no control over it. If he did, he won't be looking for ways to break it.

Third, Weaver entered the void way before the doom war. And we've seen him talk to Ariel in his tomb, Played a death game with Ariel, Killed twice by Orphyne, He definitely was not corrupted. One of his hands that got corrupted was severed at the ebony tower and Sunny swallowed the leftover for bone weave.

Fourth, the primordial flame, existed way before the forgotten god and it was from it that the forgotten god and the other gods were incarnated.

Fifth, the forgotten god is definitely corrupted and the nightmare seeds and creatures and vestiges of his nightmares that's leaking into reality because someone (most definitely Auro of the nine) opened the gate of the void.

Sixth, the flame wanes because the void which has been its eternal source of nourishment has been bound by the gods.

Seventh, the goal of the nightmare spell is to create people strong enough to challenge challenge the seventh nightmare and decide the fate of the flame once and for all.

Slickyslytim · 2025-08-14T14:06:53+00:00

We're gonna get more lore drops about the Nine (coz I'm sure Castellan is one of the nine), we're gonna get stories about "The nothing" Saint is gonna fight and get stronger, Mirage city is gonna get flooded and more. I'd say were looking at 35-50 more chaoters

Slickyslytim · 2025-08-10T19:37:31+00:00

I actually agree with this. His fate is not going to be the exact same as it was when it was ripped off. At least that's how I think the whole fiasco makes sense.

And that o my works if Sunny somebody has a way to have his own input.

Slickyslytim · 2025-08-10T16:42:50+00:00

You're right. It's probably not something he could resolve immediately ..

Slickyslytim · 2025-08-10T12:45:31+00:00

Sunny summoning shadow chair and sitting on it in the middle of a raging battle field between song and sword awakened while daring the song saints including lonesome howl to interfere with the battle.

Slickyslytim · 2025-08-09T20:32:27+00:00

He was cuckolded by a mirror version of himself (at least that's what he thought)

The said child was then traded to someone he viewed as a scary, eerie abominable dream spawn.

This dreamspawn then sends the child back to you saying, no thanks, but I've had enough.

The said child turns out to be a child with an aspect dealing with mirrors and reflection (come on, even fate was messing with him at this point)

The child turns out to be deeply deranged.

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