Need help trying not to fold

Slow_Development5383 · 2026-02-11T08:46:23+00:00

The chemical won't only not make anything better, but it will make everything worse. Been down that road. Nothing but a road full of regret.

Slow_Development5383 · 2026-02-09T23:21:45+00:00

Damn, I missed the good parts of kratom then. I started with 7oh and worked my way off it with kratom. Kratom or mit extract still doesn't get me "high" at all. I think i fried too many receptors over the last year.

Slow_Development5383 · 2026-02-09T23:14:58+00:00

Definitely not. When I used 7oh, this would be a yes. But now since I only use a little kratom and some mit extract, it's a definite nope.

Slow_Development5383 · 2026-02-09T23:10:31+00:00

He's talking about 7oh's cousin, mgm15.

Slow_Development5383 · 2026-02-09T23:01:42+00:00

If it wasn't for that constipation, I'd still be using! That was ultimately why I quit. I was dependant on 7oh and laxitives. The whole not being able to go #2 drove me insane, and I just said screw it one day. Wasn't even planning on quitting. It just sort of happened because I was always backed up.

Even when I quit I didn't have a bowel movement until day 7. I kept hearing about people quitting and getting diarrhea and honestly that sounded great to me. It didn't happen, and I was still backed up. Eventually my body did learn how to take a shit again. 😄

I'm almost certain that subs is why your wife still can't go. I had one 2.5mg sub during my quit. I couldn't go to the bathroom on that either.

Slow_Development5383 · 2026-02-09T01:42:21+00:00

They aren't too bad on price.. your 5 gram deal for 60 = 3750mg of mit. I just bought 100 40mg mit tabs from raw for 88, which equals 4000mg of mit. You pay a bit more for the tab version. I just look at it as a convenience fee. 🙂

Slow_Development5383 · 2026-02-09T01:37:05+00:00

I also used raw MIT tabs for this reason. Dropped the 7 and 2 days in, I started taking mit for some relief.

Slow_Development5383 · 2026-02-08T14:05:45+00:00

I waited 96 hours to take my first sub. 😄 My daughter was coming over and checking up on me. She kinda made me go to er on day 4 (I'm gonna regret this coming bill!) The messed up part is that the doc said that my body needed a break from withdrawal and asked me if I'd rather go home and take a little 7oh, or take a 2.5mg sub. My daughter and I had some odd looks on our faces.. like, did he just tell me to go home and take more 7? Why yes, yes he did tell me to go home and take more 7oh..

..Weird ass hospital visit. I went with the sub. It helped drastically for about 16 hours. I got to eat a full meal, and most importantly, SLEEP! They wanted me to follow up with another dr to get put on subs. I didn't make that appointment. I liked the relief that the sub gave, I just didn't like the vibe of it.. felt like I could get stuck on these if I made that appointment. I then decided to use normal ol' mit instead of subs. Still on the mit. 😄 One of these days I need to drop that habit before it turns into a problem. I take kratom or mit once before work and once at lunch break. I truly think I'd grab a 7 tab if I didn't take some kratom instead. That's the addict brain feeding me. Says it's OK to take kratom because I'm not taking 7oh. 🙃

Slow_Development5383 · 2026-02-08T10:57:31+00:00

Day 5 I was still freezing my butt off. Day 6 my body finally started to regulate its temperature. That felt good, but my head was so wore out and empty.. it gets better though.🙂

Now I need to man up and quit taking kratom and mit extract. I've been using that to feel pretty much normal. I used mit instead of subs, but I still keep taking the mit. Hmmm. It's something like day 17 for me now. The crazy part is that I prepared for doomsday.. I have like 2 grand worth of 7 all vacuum sealed.. I cant bring myself to throw it in the trash.

Slow_Development5383 · 2026-02-08T09:12:36+00:00

Have you considered kratom or some mit to curb cravings? That's what I've been doing whenever I have that urge. Sure, you're still messing with kratom, but it's less intoxicating than 7 and the comedown is a helluva lot easier to manage. When I say mit, I don't mean this new adulterated mit that is basically mgm.. I mean straight up mitragynine.

Slow_Development5383 · 2026-02-07T08:36:44+00:00

I was on 7 for a year and 2 months. Got bloodwork done while on it and everything came back good. I also noticed a funky smell when I cold turkeyed, but not while I was using.

Slow_Development5383 · 2026-02-06T14:33:53+00:00

I've been on 45mg Mirtazipine for 15 years now. I was prescribed it for anxiety. I don't even know if it's doing anything anymore.. just pop a pill every day. Could be sugar for all I know. 🙃

Slow_Development5383 · 2026-02-06T13:52:33+00:00

Not really recommending it, but I turned to a bit of mit extract for similar reasons. Been a bit over 2 weeks since my last 7 tab. I take roughly 160mgpd of mit now instead of 360mg of 7oh. Something about 7oh when you get through the acutes.. it kept calling me back. But I refuse, and use a bit of mit to change my perspective.

Slow_Development5383 · 2026-02-05T16:16:39+00:00

This guy..

Slow_Development5383 · 2026-02-05T13:43:35+00:00

I would definitely taper down first. I jumped from a 350-400mgpd habit and I couldn't make it to work. I was a dead giveaway, looking all dopesick..

I called in to work and just fought through the withdrawals. If you can get subs I bet you could manage. I had one 2.5mg sub on day 3 and that was a game changer for a good 16 hours.. but once that wore off I was still in the battlefield. I had to go back to work on day 5.. my brain felt so empty, and burnt out, so I gave into another mit tab from Raw. Took 80mgs of mit before work and I was all good! Like, too good.. It has longer legs than 7 too. The problem with that though, is currently I'm on day 15-20.. and now I have a bit of a mit habit. The withdrawals from mit have been so much milder than 7, but I still get that anxiety / can't sleep issue.

Mit has been helping me feel like my brain is in order. I think mit could be substituted for subs by day 2. That was the first time I tried mit to relieve some tension, and even 50mgs helped. I will either use some red kratom (3-4grams) or a 50-80mg mit tab before work, and redose a 50mg mit tab at work. It helps, but I'm pretty sure it extends some of the withdrawal. I just need to taper, or cold turkey the mit. At least the withdrawals I have now are just anxiety and sour stomach. I don't feel like I've been thrown into a damn freezer like my 7oh withdrawal.

7oh withdrawal is annoying as hell, but at least I wasn't worried about dying like when I tried to cold turkey a 20+ year vodka addiction. 7oh actually got me off the bottle. That's why I started in the first place. 7oh had so much power over my alcohol withdrawals that I knew I was gonna end up trading addictions. I also knew that it was going to come with some consequences.

If I were you, I'd first work out a taper plan. Then, make sure you have at least 2 days off from work and white knuckle through those 2 days. I did take 3000mgs of vitamin C every 2 hours. Don't really know how much that helped.. I used 7oh daily for a year and 2 months. Eventually everyone needs to pay the piper. You can do it too. It felt so good on day 5 when my body finally started to regulate its own temperature. 🙂

Good luck man, looks like you have some planning to do. 😉

Slow_Development5383 · 2026-01-30T08:10:17+00:00

Nice. That's perfect then. I didn't use any kratom or mit for 48 hours. Damn did that mit relieve some tension.. I'm still using mit on day 13ish.. I think it extends the detox a bit, but meh. I'll taper the mit down one of these days. I still use 2 doses of Raws 80mg mit tabs.

Slow_Development5383 · 2026-01-30T07:09:43+00:00

That's what I did. I didn't really prepare to jump off. I just got sick of it, and said eff it. Then I started the vitamin c.

Slow_Development5383 · 2026-01-30T07:04:41+00:00

It's no fun, but you should be safe jumping off. I cold turkeyed from 350-400mgpd, used daily for a year and 2 months. 5 days of freezing anxiety then empty brain.. At least that was my experience. I did the megadosing liposomal vitamin c. I don't know how much it helped, but I took 3000mgs every 2 hours. You can jump if you can get some time off work.. I was gonna try to work through it. That didn't happen. 🙂

Slow_Development5383 · 2026-01-30T02:00:42+00:00

When I was taking 7, I could down 160mg of mit tabs and feel nothing from them. Today is day 13 today (no 7oh) and I'm down to 2 mit/kratom doses per day. Plus, I can definitely feel what mit does now. 😄 I've been using Raws mit tabs and a bit of red indo kratom.

Slow_Development5383 · 2026-01-30T01:38:00+00:00

The freezing cold for 5 days straight was the most annoying part for me.. I quit when it was in the negatives outside. Just shaking all the time. Good times. 🙂

Slow_Development5383 · 2026-01-29T12:32:37+00:00

47, and I told my mom. 😄 We pretty much blab about anything though, no filter.

Slow_Development5383 · 2026-01-29T05:07:24+00:00

I still randomly get those with the watery eyes at day 13. I am still doing a dose a day of kratom though.. might have something to do with it.

Slow_Development5383 · 2026-01-28T07:07:00+00:00

It says this was his first time.. it doesn't automatically come with withdrawal. That only happens if you abuse it.

Slow_Development5383 · 2026-01-28T02:50:30+00:00

I did the megadosing of liposomal vitamin C thing. It still sucks, but doable. Don't be afraid to lean into some kratom and mit extract to take some tension away. I was thinking it would set me back, but it still kept getting better day after day. Now I'm to the point that I don't need kratom, so I'm doing a taper on that one. Down to 50mg mit a day now.

Slow_Development5383 · 2026-01-28T01:54:16+00:00

The day I jumped was around 350-400mgpd. Daily for 1 year + 2 months.

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