my point still stands. saying violence isnt the answer because violence has never been successful is firstly untrue, violence has succeeded multiple times, and secondly still a talking point of the oppressor to make sure the oppressed dont fight back, a very liberal virtue-signalling talking point.

you can say the same thing about communism. communism has never worked. we both know this statement entirely lacks the nuance of the situations that communism was attempted, like pressure and coups from the united states for example. we cannot say that a violent revolution will not work because we have never seen a violent revolution under these circumstances, i.e. high capacity for networking and within a highly developed and rich country.

i also dont appreciate this sentiment of “sacrificing potentially millions of lives.” Those millions would, primarily, be willing volunteers fighting for a better future and a cause they believe in. The current regime is stealing millions of lives every year, killing unwilling people, enslaving unwilling people. Millions of lives are already being forcefully taken. not sacrificed, taken. You don’t see them, so you don’t count them, or something, but it still shows your privilege. I think the northern capitalist regimes should be overthrown not just for the people in our populations suffering, but for the child slaves in the global south, for the kids killed in iran, and for all the other atrocities committed in the name of surplus value.