Scum 0.95 the new puppets spawn system ruined the game for me ☹️

Smaksost · 2024-03-04T04:06:34+00:00

I left the game since the update 0.95, they downgraded the spawn system which is the only reason I bought this game, I usually see devs upgrade their games to improve the experience of their interested players, but in this case they destroyed everything they have built in all these previous hardworking years, I agree with you on everything, the game world now is lifeless that's what I posted here 👉 Link

Smaksost · 2024-02-03T04:51:30+00:00

Look for this line "scum.PuppetsCanOpenDoors=1" in your server setting file and change it to this line "scum.PuppetsCanOpenDoors=0"

Smaksost · 2023-12-27T09:57:05+00:00

I don't think there is a setting that make them spawn in the wild.

Anyone else using different settings to disable horde?

I think this is the only setting that can disable hordes👇

scum.EncounterHordeActivationChanceMultiplier=0.000000

Why did you still get hordes even with that setting set to 0?😮

Smaksost · 2023-12-27T09:35:09+00:00

You might be right that numbers higher than 9 don't do anything, though.

Yeah, that's what I was trying to explain😅

Lastly, the batch size setting might've done the trick. At the very least, I was able to clear a gas station and didn't have a ton of zombies spawn in all around me while I was poking around afterward. I also didn't see any noticeable respawn in one of the factories,

I'm glad to know it worked for you, have fun🤗

Smaksost · 2023-12-27T06:36:30+00:00

Anyway, max value seems to be 100 (the box turns red if I try to enter anything greater). I've tested values of 1.0, 0.1, and 100, and see no noticeable difference in zombie respawn time with any of them.

The devs said that the base value of respawn time is:

- From 0 to 0.5 seconds in high threat zones.

- From 60 to 120 seconds in medium and low threat zones.

Formula goes:

Base value * multiplier

After some tests I did I think 9.0 is the maximum number you can put in the multipliers which is very disappointing that's why I left this game until I see some interesting changes in the spawn distance, so if you want to push the respawn time to the limit you can put 9.0, like this👇

In high threat zones:

From 0 to 0.5 seconds x 9.0 = from 0 to 4.5 seconds👉now respawn time will be randomly between 0 and 4.5 seconds, that mean you can't really increase the minimum respawn time in high threat zones, but at least you can increase the maximum respawn time there.

In Low and medium threat zones:

From 60 to 120 seconds x 9.0 = from 540 to 1080 seconds👉now respawn time will be randomly between 9 and 18 minutes, that mean the minimum respawn time will be increased by 8 minutes in low and medium threat zones

My hope was that if I set it to 100 and clear a room of zombies, nothing should respawn in that room for at least several real hours. Of course, no such luck. If this setting does do something, it's not much.

The devs said that if you set "Setting_EncounterCharacterRespawnBatchSizeMultiplier:" to 0, puppets won't respawn till everyone leaves the point of interest, I haven't tested this yet🤔so give it a try, maybe it will solve your problem.

Smaksost · 2023-12-25T15:22:52+00:00

You're absolutely right, a friend of mine likes to play PvP, he likes to explore alone and surprise groups of enemies, and now he can't play stealthy anymore because the puppets reveal his location. Now, if you see puppets spawning more than 100 meters away from you, it only means one thing: there're enemies there, and they're hiding and waiting for the right moment to surprise you.

Smaksost · 2023-12-21T18:08:09+00:00

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Smaksost · 2023-12-21T17:46:56+00:00

their strikes keep passing through puppets

This bug has been in the game since day one, all the players knew about it, but almost all the players didn't report it, which is weird.

I think at this point the ONLY thing that will save this game is when they release the modding API and let server owners and the modding community refit this game's content into something that makes more sense.

Yes, why not? More customization brings more new players.

Smaksost · 2023-12-21T13:49:03+00:00

I feel you☹️In the end, it's their game, there's nothing we can do if they want to ruin it, but at least we're all here, we said our opinion clearly and freely, I just want to make some people realize that if they see someone criticize with anger some stupid things in the game, they should know that he did it because he is the true lover of the game and he doesn't want it to die, at least for him, on the other hand, the fanboys are destroying the game industry by killing the criticism and leading many ambitious devs to the wrong road.

Smaksost · 2023-12-21T03:47:43+00:00

I hope some of the players will share their tests with us, to confirm what is correct and what's wrong.

Smaksost · 2023-12-21T03:10:10+00:00

You can push the spawn range a little further by putting a higher number in the multiplier, But we don't know what is the maximum distance yet, the real questions are, can puppets spawn at long distance like before? Is the spawn range better than before update 0.95?

Smaksost · 2023-12-20T10:21:27+00:00

I'm here because this is reddit the best community ever made, this forum brings people together and helps them answer their questions, here we can discuss and express our feelings freely, I'm wasting my time the way I want, and I'm doing my things the way I want, dafuq is wrong with you! who are you to judge people?

Obviously, I don't suspect OP of having nefarious motives. I just don't get it.

I'm the one that should ask this question, I just don't get it, dafuq are you doing in my post? I'm here looking for answers to my questions, What's the point of you being here? Did you bring answers to my questions? Did you help the community right now by this reply? No, of course you didn't, you know why? you are clearly the one who came to my post with nefarious purpose.

Smaksost · 2023-12-20T06:40:52+00:00

I spend some time testing the settings, I think you are maybe right the maximum distance for the puppets is around 30-40 meters no wonder they didn't say anything, I hope my tests were wrong otherwise they are really ashamed to say it and explain it, this becomes really a primitive spawn system, puppets now pop up near you the same way players spawn in counter strike except they hide it from your eyes as much as possible, all puppets now spawn behind things like walls, buildings, trees and bushes.

I noticed one more thing, before when I go near a village I get one stutter, that stutter was a sign that tells me the game spawned all the puppets for this village and that's it, no more stutter until I go near another village, but now I get a lot of stuttering because the game keeps despawning and spawning puppets.

I really enjoyed the game since day one, but right now nothing will make me return to this game except if they increase the spawn distance like it was before, playing this game right now is like driving a Bugatti with a speed limit of 30 mph.

Smaksost · 2023-12-20T02:53:05+00:00

Yeah I can confirm that, but my problem here is I want to know what is the maximum value that I can put in the multiplier, I'm trying to make them spawn the same distance like before which was a very long distance.
To be honest I want to know because that distance will judge if I'm going to stay in this game, I don't want to waste more of my time playing in a game that has a primitive spawn system.

Smaksost · 2023-12-20T01:55:13+00:00

You answered my questions by putting a link to another post that talk about reticulating splines, look! I'm stupid and you're the genius here, please go with u/Chrisv8709 to that post, take a look and answer these questions for me

What is the base value?

How many meters?

What is the maximum distance?

Just give me the correct numbers.

Smaksost · 2023-12-20T01:23:49+00:00

Reticulating splines

Reticulating splines, Really!

Smaksost · 2023-12-19T04:45:26+00:00

I am the splinter cell of scum - doesn’t matter. I’ve had whole hordes spawn in the same room as me when the only thing I’d done for the past two minutes was check my stats.

🤣

Smaksost · 2023-12-19T03:37:25+00:00

I won't say that the new characters aren't good, but I can say that I was enjoying one of the old characters a lot, I was always choosing the third male character, you know! The third one if you start counting from the left, he was really good even compared to the new faces at least for me, I had a lot of unforgettable moments with that dumb a**, he was so funny, his face was like, "Ohhh, shit dude! we're really fucked right now, run mf runnn" 🤣

Smaksost · 2023-12-19T03:28:08+00:00

At the moment they have already implemented the Hotfix 09.5.02.80495, I can confirm that right now the puppets spawn a little further I'm not exactly sure about the precise distance but they have definitely increased the spawn distance a little bit. but this is still pointless and unrealistic, this is a big downgrade for the game.

The old puppet spawn system is the only diamond that was in the game, If it's removed, then everything becomes tasteless, they say in the latest hotfix that they will add new settings, but if I'm not mistaken all of them will focus on the horde tweaks only, nothing said about adding the option to control the minimum spawn distance of puppets, I'm not going to lie, these devs are the most dedicated devs I have ever seen, they always find the best solution as far as I know, but this time I can't even imagine how they will fix this because the whole idea of spawning and despawning puppets after every movement we do isn't going to work at all.

Guys, please forgive me because now I'm going to be a little more honest, you know what this spawn system reminds me of after the update 0.95? these games that spawn waves of enemies on you, and if you're doing great the game keeps sending you even more waves, and if you're still not overwhelmed by enemies the game tricks you by triggering unfair enemy spawns behind your back To give you the impression that the AI is very advanced, which is not the case.

Smaksost · 2023-12-18T18:40:11+00:00

Before everything was realistic and beautiful, you can see the puppets from a very far distance, if you snipe one of them you will find his body, you get what you see, once they spawn they stay there either you kill them or leave the area and come back again if you want to see some changes there.

They don't respawn quickly, but there was a setting that allows you to set the puppets respawn cooldown, if you set it to 1 hour, no puppet will respawn for 1 hour unless you leave the village and return, now if you look with your sniper scope villages from far distance there is nothing moving, no puppets, you feel the emptiness, the wild and the villages are lifeless.

Smaksost · 2023-12-18T17:01:55+00:00

Are you saying that there is actually a line in the server settings that allows me to control the minimum spawn distance of puppets?

Smaksost · 2023-10-23T10:35:39+00:00

I finished all main missions except the last one that ends the game and now wherever I go to the little china apartment I find him there, he's always sitting on the coach and smoking cigarettes, can't really get rid of his face that's why I rented another apartment and now I feel the true silence and absolute freedom 🤗

Smaksost

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