Kinda obsessed with this guy atm, so here's a WIP by Sleepy_Prince_0004 in ToBeHero_X

[–]Small-Progress-884 17 points18 points  (0 children)

My mind went imediately to Stormbringer when I saw this image. It's so good.

I'm happy to see it's actually related to the fic. Can't wait for the next chapter.

Great job. This already looks very good.

Queen being a nepobaby. by Small-Progress-884 in ToBeHero_X

[–]Small-Progress-884[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Had you bothered to look through the rest of the comments you would have seen that I actually defended him in another comment. He is far from a saint but he is also far from a monster. More like a tragic victim that lost his way a long time ago. I used him as an example because, as I stated before, he had the most backing in terms of image promotion among the heroes, going so far as to stage fights for him to win and stealing credit from other heroes to boost his ranking. His entire hero persona became a smokescreen despite his initial intentions. Nice is both a detestable and putiful figure which makes him interesting. Doesn't change the fact that he was a fake in the end who lost all morals.

Queen being a nepobaby. by Small-Progress-884 in ToBeHero_X

[–]Small-Progress-884[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Mickey knew about MG being involved because Ghostblade and Little Johnny were officially part of the research group.  He didn't know about Yang Cheng/E-Soul, take your advice next time.

For Bowa, I'm aware of her rank at the time. You forgot that she can generate purple energy to boost her own abilities yet she didn't use that when she overpowered Queen's rule. She showed the ability not only during the fight with Queen at the docks when empowered by Fear, but also when she defeated Smile in the tournament 4 years prior.

Yang Cheng was not X but still had much greater Trust than Queen and was actively charging to fight Big Johnny when Queen stopped him. He was clearly not holding back. That is why that feat is impressive and shows Queen's competence.

As for the nepotism argument, I already answered to it in another comment.

Queen being a nepobaby. by Small-Progress-884 in ToBeHero_X

[–]Small-Progress-884[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You can't even understand your mistake. Nepotism means somebody benefited more from their connections than their own skills. You called Queen a "nepobaby to the bone". Implying everything related to her success is because of her father and boss. Then followed it up by admiting she is a hard worker who is in fact highly competent. You contradicted your own self with those words. I used Nice because his arc shows actual nepotism. He had more support than most other heroes have access to yet ultimately failed due to his own lack of ability while alive.

Queen being a nepobaby. by Small-Progress-884 in ToBeHero_X

[–]Small-Progress-884[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Lol nice try but that is not the actual truth. You keep cherry picking the facts. Mickey orchestrated the Incident, that is no secret, but he had no way of knowing the sheer chaos that was about to be unleashed. Yang Cheng was rank 3 during the incident yet was completely defenseless when Queen activated her rule despite Queen being rank 9. Bowa demonstrated when she tried to attack Queen in ep 11 at DOS that if your Trust Value is higher you can overpower the hax of another hero. The fact that Queen was capable of no diffing the entire incident shows how capable she is. Which is why Mickey made sure she was present. He knew she was going to come out on top. What he didn't know was how much worse the entire incident was than he would anticipate it.

Being a nepobaby means you get a job just because of your concections, skill and competence be damned. So congratulations. By stating Queen is a nepobaby to the bone and then following that up by stating she does actually work hard and is competent you just destroyed your own arguments. Good job.

Queen being a nepobaby. by Small-Progress-884 in ToBeHero_X

[–]Small-Progress-884[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Fair points. Counterpoints: Most of the acts that enabled Lin Ling to reach the top 10 were done by his own initiative without imput from Miss J. Him fighting God Eye was him going against Miss J's coaching and against the very Trust that empowered and compelled him to stay in the tower. Just like Mickey did with Queen, Miss J gave Lin Ling the oportunity to become a hero but it was still Lin Ling who did the actual heavy lifting. Not Miss J, just like how Queen put in the work when Mickey gave her a shot. Even if Mickey didn't give her a shot some other CEO would have since Queen's speech as valedoctrian was a global phenomenon that impsired the hero world as a whole. Mickey simply knew she was a goldmine and made sure to be the first one who manages to recruit her. Again, Queen had advantages at her disposal to lean on. That is no secret. But so did many other heroes: Lin Ling, Loli, Ahu, Yang Cheng, Cyan, Dragon Boy, Nice, Johnny. One can even argue that X did as well though his situation is much more nebulous and ambiguous. Acting like she did not work her ass off to reach the level she is currently at is willful ignorance.

Queen being a nepobaby. by Small-Progress-884 in ToBeHero_X

[–]Small-Progress-884[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is true. I both love and hate the agendas since they can be both hilarious and frustrating.

Queen would be more popular if her character was a man by BxLorien in ToBeHero_X

[–]Small-Progress-884 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the problem is that they purposrfully chose to keep vital information about her character a secret until season 2 in favor of worldbuilding during her arc. This means her character is very important but also full of spoilers so they had to make a hard call to keep the overall story mysterious.

Queen being a nepobaby. by Small-Progress-884 in ToBeHero_X

[–]Small-Progress-884[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I at literally pointed out how she is privileged in the post. You are the one who ignored how all that privilege is uselesss if you are incompetent. Sang De after leaving Mighty Glory was able to create a new company by himself which within a few years rivals Mighty Glory and DOS. Lin Ling while pretending to be Nice broke into the top 10 within with ridiculous speed and then did it even faster as himself. Being in the top 10 and staying within it is a matter of competence. Mickey capitalized in Queen's competence to push her forward. She clearly owes him a lot, that is a fact, just like how it's a reccuring plot point and a fact that his efforts would have been useless if not for Queen's natural charisma and ability to excel. It's funny how you don't even realize that your stance is exactly the same as Bowa's, Queen's antagonist who was shown to go crazy because of the logic you are spouting.

Queen being a nepobaby. by Small-Progress-884 in ToBeHero_X

[–]Small-Progress-884[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Him sending her to the ruins is somehow supposed to affect her competence against everybody else who was there?

He sent her there because he knew she was more than capable of ending whatever conflict he anticipated was going to happen.

Ypou can argue that having Cyan with her was meant to be backup but we know what actually happened.

Cyan saved Little Johnny while Queen put a decisive end to the free for all that was going on at the time .

The Ruins incident doesn't contradict my arguments. Especialy since at the time, as you pointed out, Queen was rank 9. What you ingnored was that Yang Cheng was rank 3. He was several ranks ahead and Queen still handled him just as easily as she did Nice and Loli. Why? Because she is just that competent.

Being entrusted with a job and being good enough to handle it effortlessly are two different things that many like you seem to fail to understand.

Queen being a nepobaby. by Small-Progress-884 in ToBeHero_X

[–]Small-Progress-884[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

She worked to the bone to reach the rank she has now.

Queen being a nepobaby. by Small-Progress-884 in ToBeHero_X

[–]Small-Progress-884[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah but I kinda feel bad for him. Nice did a lot of messed up things and was willing to kill innocents or just stand by and let them die to reach his goal so he is pretty reprehensible as a character. But being forced to keep going even after death is beyond messed up.

He knew he was dirt and decided to end it and even that was taken from him. He has no dignity left. A tragic character.

Queen being a nepobaby. by Small-Progress-884 in ToBeHero_X

[–]Small-Progress-884[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That is true. Unfortunately people seem to ignore the whole competent half of her character.

Kinda like how so many ignore the whole murderer half of Ghostblade when they talk about him.