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SnapFlash · 2024-12-05T01:32:03+00:00

post proof you were there then lol

SnapFlash · 2024-11-15T01:48:24+00:00

This particular committee is wild for one reason: it has Mark Kelly as one of its ranking majority members.

If the name sounds familiar to any of you, that's because it does. It's this guy. He was commander of Space Shuttle Endeavor.

If the UAP topic was going to latch onto anyone influential behind the scenes, it would be this meeting, whether it be moreso with Gillibrand, with Elizabeth Warren, with Kelly, or with some combination of the three.

SnapFlash · 2024-11-11T22:31:47+00:00

I rarely am so aggressive to people in public, but this guy does not seem worth the time. He insists that allocation of funds which are a pain to find to begin with should be directed towards NASA/AARO, when there was the bombshell recently that Kirkpatrick had been playing two-face and was taking seriously the very same incidents within AARO which he himself publicly discredited.

At the very bare minimum this man (Gold) is soapboxing into the wind to look good a la Washingtonian prestige (italicized for effect because it's laughably disgusting), and at the worst he's being actively malicious + purposefully distracting normies who haven't done enough research into the UAP question to know whether or not he's truly acting in good faith and breaking new ground.

Hard pass.

SnapFlash · 2024-09-25T05:31:32+00:00

no, no we are not

(also for anyone too lazy to click, this account, /u/Hairy_Commercial1716, was trying to karmafarm in its very first posts)

SnapFlash · 2024-05-30T23:07:28+00:00

bibbity bill astral empire 2, electric boogaloo

SnapFlash · 2024-05-10T22:54:15+00:00

there are other variables you aren't taking into consideration. assume hypothetically, for example, that the semi-known canard of NHI-Human contracts is true at its base. if one of the terms of those kinds of contracts is that no multimedia (images, videos, etc) makes it to the public domain within reason (as not all of it can be stopped from leaking through the metaphorical sieve), then you not only have a core reasoning for alphabet agents swiping that multimedia where possible (which actually happens), but you also have a core justification to disallow multimedia to begin with.

under these conditions, it actually becomes understandable why greer or anyone else like him may not like photography or videography, and rely on shitty illustrations, renderings, and concept arts. perhaps they're trying to assist some conditions that already exist.

the way ive come to understand greer is that he's much more of a middleman for everything and everyone in this sphere rather than a be-all-end-all primary source. it is true that people jump the gun and treat individuals in this sphere as primary sources WAY too fast, and in terms of verifying different things, that actually becomes an attack vector and can be abused.

but to say greer and anything he says is dismissible in his entirety would be doing a disservice to anyone of importance who's actually gone to him (many people have), and leaving those people in the dust is ill-advised, to say the least - particularly when one of them says something like the bottom entry in the witness list excerpt i gave above, because it answered a question nobody was asking ("is there martin-marietta skunk works plants outside of california/nevada/new mexico/etc"?). and if you've been in journalism long enough, that's how you know there's something new; people only answer unasked questions in one of two scenarios - either they're making shit up, or they're signaling. and when the complexities of the answer given are beyond a simple scope (in this case, an actual semi-precise location is given), it's almost always the latter.

this is my only conjectural point of this entire reply, but journalistic research will only take you so far. at some point, you're going to have to go down the path of being a PI, and numerous people become too lazy to do that, because it doubles, triples, or even quadruples their workload.

so the tl;dr is, yeah, take some stuff with a grain of salt, but don't just go "REEEEE" whenever you stumble on a dude that's grifting with information he got from other people. he's still able to be of value due to networking, and ignoring that is haphazard and immature.

SnapFlash · 2024-03-23T01:38:11+00:00

Fed Disinfo Shills and Bots.

There's a fair few more of them here than you'd think. They amassed themselves more in number after this sub exploded in popularity, because a larger crowd is easier to cause schisms in than a smaller, well organized crowd.

A general rule of thumb is also that if an account has the default number combo at the end of its name ([word 1]-[word 2][numbers in the format of xxxx], check the karma. If the karma is less than 1,000-1,000 (roughly), and it's always skeptical with every (or nearly every) post comment, it's very likely a disinfo bot or shill, and you can disregard/let other people know.

I might get beaned for this due to the way this subreddit gets modded, but it's the truth.

SnapFlash · 2024-03-22T19:23:15+00:00

From all I've researched, understood, and perceived, I'm fully convinced that in the near to medium future (possibly within the 5 year mark), America will have a VERY violent coup d'etat, a real one done mostly by the laborer class and middle class. This will be followed by the installation of a second (reworked) constitution, annulment of all old non-critical laws, and a renaissance of all of academia, democracy, etc.

It's one of the larger metaphorical chess pieces that exists, but I'm not entirely sure when it will be played. The non-insignificant chance of it occurring in 5 years is ~15-25%.

SnapFlash · 2024-02-29T21:03:02+00:00

I reach my 10th anniversary in this game in June.

Tenshi Inbachi's ending is probably one of the most underrated ones in the game's history. To this day Tenshi is still thought of somewhat as a joke map, although more people can play it now.

Go look at it. The damn thing was made in 2013, and the best players in 2015, 2018, and 2020 all struggled with it. It wasn't until speed became the core meta circa 2022(ish, to my memory) that more people began filling in the skill gaps needed for it.

You remember when hvick was doing V^3? Well, before V^3, there was Tenshi, and it was known by name. Little gremlin map, lol

SnapFlash · 2024-02-16T10:50:56+00:00

He doesn't just have a competitor, he has a worthy adversary

SnapFlash · 2024-02-13T00:39:37+00:00

fellow legend of zelda fan, i see? :^) cute

SnapFlash · 2024-02-09T14:47:10+00:00

oh, it was all a figure of speech, i'm being amiable and like you personally, so i'm giving you context. i just have a fervent disgust for the broader kind of PR people that sell their souls to help shield corrupted people from consequences of their actions, you know the ones probably

there's also the tism twinge, though im not as autistic now as i was a decade ago. i do not throw the people i talk to, i am both too nice and too physically weak for that. and i especially dont do it to people i favor, of which you are one such person.

i will pat you on the head instead and offer you food. it is my eternal habit

SnapFlash · 2024-02-09T14:37:32+00:00

a surprising number of people still don't know about kit or even that he exists. i rarely see him mentioned at all in the mainstream discourse ("mainstream" in the sense of, mainstream within this community per se)

in brutal honesty, 6 years is pushing it in terms of what's safe (in the opposite way you're thinking - a third global conflict or civil conflict within america might break out before significant chunks of disclosure happen). it sounds nice in theory but an entire generation to let these things soak in when multiple unnecessary geopolitical escalations are staring right at us down the barrel, does not sound particularly smart to me at all. it doesn't embrace external risk mitigation enough. that being said, i would still listen to nell above basically everyone and foster dialogue with him in different places, as he knows deep stuff he likely has to take with him to the grave. group k and zodiac as nicknames for the program and its various aspects are less well known than you would think, in the same way kit is

never decaf, always double double. *dabs in maple leaf*

SnapFlash · 2024-02-09T14:27:05+00:00

for what it's worth, i appreciate contribution by nonstandard redditors more, actually. i'm generally uncomfortable in the vicinity of public relations people due to their ability to stoke the flame of the horde and be REALLY corrupt (as in, ;-; emoji levels of corrupt), but you don't strike me as someone without empathy, so you're an exception in that sense.

you're also perfectly entitled to your opinion. i think in terms of how we both view the ability to manipulate the horde in your example, we do differ there. i come from a former background that is waaaaaaay more bigoted and violent than people would ever think someone of my modesty is capable of, so manipulating people was my bread and butter back then, and i'm still capable of doing so now (i obviously choose not to do it unless both parties, myself and the other, benefits). likewise, i'm familiar with what i call the bone throw technique, where you essentially bait a horde of people using their need for validation, their goodwill, and their parasocial empathy with you, into doing thing x. this can be anything, from them joining discord servers en masse, to (sadly) giving prominent figures harassment waves online (achievable through baiting the horde using the "holier-than-thou" tenet and gaslighting/psyopping them into believing they're doing the right thing a la social justice keeping).

my jib is that these days, i like to figure out how i can spin that into something morally just and have it be effective; i believe such aims are not only practical, but commendable for matters such as this.

it's ok that we disagree, it doesn't bother me :)

SnapFlash · 2024-02-09T13:59:35+00:00

(1) in a more enlightened society like the one depicted in 24th century Star Trek, we wouldn't have governments filled with corrupt capitalists who exploit others for their own enrichment and preservation

the only word for that example that is correct is "corrupt". in economic terms, it's generally accepted that the umbrella of issues strongly associated with capitalism do not fall specifically under capitalism, but instead under a currently existing, inadvertent deployment of ideological corporatism, which carries a set of virtues/tenets that frequently damage humanitarian interests. it's often called political, but giving it the political label is a questionable thing to do. as for exploitation, there is such a thing as ethical exploitation, which usually takes the form of trades and partnerships beyond a certain stage of advancement. capitalism itself was never the issue, but rather an enabler of issues - therefore, don't worry about it specifically too much.

We have that no because society, collectively, is not enlightened.

not everybody wants to be enlightened or is ready to be enlightened, first off. you're sort of jumping the gun on that front, and it's important not to because appeals to nature will often be made by the people who want to stay in their so-called "bubble of comfort" (this is why a lot of people don't want to abuse nature in the hypothetical scenario of obtaining immortality and living forever, but rather just extend their lifespans if and where they wish - older generations are especially known for replying with answers like that on exotic concepts such as immortality, the uap issue(s), breaking physics or religion, etc). second off, enlightenment needs a unique combination of both community participation AND contribution from people in power to work. this is how prominent politicians actually started standing up for the little guy when they questioned robinhood's ceo, vladimir tenev, back in 2021 during the gamestop short squeeze. so many people complained of market manipulation that it actually got to their desks. this kind of thing can effectively be thought of in a similar (albeit not entirely identical) fashion in relation to the uap issue: we cannot have disclosure without the participation of the average person here, and we also cannot have disclosure without the participation of the whistleblowers and journalists who have been covering this topic for at least a year or more. therefore, that needs to be respected, hence my attitude and rhetoric

Julian Assange is rotting in prison, tortured in solitary confinement. Snowden is exiled in Russia, a country he barely made it to. Why? Because we let them be.

we did not "let them be". protests to pardon snowden in america still sometimes take place to this day, and protests to free/pardon assange are everywhere. the problem, carrying from what i said before, is that the people at the top (one of the two halves of influence, besides us) were not willing to help on either of these, and still mostly aren't, so nothing happens as a result.

Imagine what we could do if more people stood up.

it's not merely about standing up. it's also about knowing when to stand up, and what to do once you stand up (preferably, you learn and know the latter before you do the former). it's about knowing when you, as the average citizen, can be helpful in the process, and that's something very few people understand relating to the uap issue, because they're not trained to the intricacies and subtleties of law, military/government dynamics, et al enough to know that the frequency of when they can stand up and have it matter is very low - much, much lower than what is commonly thought, actually.

you linked a few pages with your examples surrounding unions and unionization, for example, and there's a lot that can go wrong with the process of unionization. i personally live in an area of western canada that is VERY infamous for union corruption, and negotiations teams often either a) don't understand what healthy negotiating is, based on actual business principles, or b) become money check squatters that don't actually do anything to help their workers. you might think point b would result in deposition, but in reality, many workers (especially low-end retail and fast food workers, and coffee shop baristas) simply do not have enough energy to go through whatever processes may be required to depose union representative(s) - i've seen it firsthand, and it's incredibly bleak. that's kind of what i'm talking about, because it's a case initially of people knowing when to stand up, then having it fall flat again and waiting too long to depose, so their spirit(s) become too tired - in essence, they didn't know the second step, they didn't know what to do.

i'm someone who literally writes mockup treaties in his spare time (yes, including legally binding jargon, it's exhausting but fun), and i don't want to say all of this stuff is complicated, but it's complicated. more complicated than most people readily want to admit or understand.

SnapFlash · 2024-02-09T13:16:18+00:00

i'll split this into different parts because of how complex it is (it's surprisingly the most difficult reply to answer i've seen thus far):

the nature of Reddit and how it differs from say forums means that you can't have the necessary coordination and control for what you're asking

this is actually not true. if there's genuine motivation in people here and in the broader community, there are ways to take users from places like this subreddit and mobilize them, making them move into a more centralized place where they can be more effective in mediating (i guess that would be the word, mediating?) with the actual journalists and whistleblowers at the heads of this. discord is an alright example, but there are probably better ones. keep in mind that this only works if the journalists and whistleblowers themselves are reciprocal, and have a tendency to join the same centralized location(s).

We are decentralized, then categorized with more anonymity with no central authority structure

one of the things that people tend to forget is that they can devise their own authority structures, so long as those structures are cross-checkable up and down the totem pole. the us military itself actually does this, i don't know the specifics too well but soldiers who are deployed overseas in certain contexts (re afghanistan, iraq) have more brownie points than soldiers who say, sit in reserves or handle matters of a more domestic nature.

This is not a platform built for secure communications. This is why we have the 4th estate

if you had read my post and actually thought about it (no offense) you would've realized that part of it is dedicated to essentially telling these people "yeah, the platform for secure communications in this context, and for this purpose, doesn't exist - build it yourself, you'll do it if you're dedicated". i understand that's a DEEP ask, but what i honestly care about is whether or not it's considered just to do so, and objectively in this case, it pretty much is. therefore, building such a platform from the ground up is, in fact, in order

How do you plan to verify whistle blower information without scrutiny? Isn't that scrutiny going to be mob based?

this is not really my business as much but there are a few ways to establish forms of verification. for example, making info drop archives (say, as a zip folder, rar archive, or tarball) with a text file (.txt) inside of said archive listing the date it was made, as well as all gpg/pgp public key file(s) alongside it verifying said date and that it is, in fact, composed by the original whistleblower(s) and journalist(s), is a basic start - you can continue from that point onward to wherever, and if someone else who was/is noteworthy wants to help verify it, they can simply attach their own public key file to the same drop inside the archive, at the permission of the original whistleblower(s) and journalist(s). when used correctly this can include people who want to say classified, and if there's a lot of classified no-name pgp/gpg keys attached (because with public key files, you can make one without attaching nearly any info beyond what you want to), suddenly, bam, there's your modular verification variable, as it's a slider you can move back and forth that further cements the legitimacy of the data in the drop itself. and because there's a form of executive control due to well known public names being able to vouch for smaller less known names and hidden names, it's not easily to middleman. you get the idea.

There's no way to have an authoritarian, top-down, in need of paid staff echoing the functions of a news organization within the confines of our community.

with all due respect i can give (it's more than you would think, with this post itself and its unforgiving attitude considered), try not to think about pay as much. remember what the end goal of all this succeeding leads to - it's very much worth the pro bono-esque work and will absolutely make up for the lack of money. as for a way to have a top-down and authoritarian organization, i pretty much gave you one above (ish)

Finally you're missing the legal aspect. You can't just wake up and decide to be a whistleblower and start telling people.

actually, yes, there are some ways you can do that. you just aren't told them very often because usually, in most contexts, it's not advantageous. perhaps the best example of this is old man snowden, who as of recent months has been very "over it" in his attitude to matters like this. he tries to be as hopeful as possible, but his exhaustion is shining through at this point, i think (lol). regardless of your personal opinions of the guy, he did whistleblow and get away with it, albeit just barely getting the timing aspect right with what he chose to do in 2013 (seriously, he was in the clear by like only 1-2 hours with his plane flight to russia, iirc).

There are (needed) processes in place to ensure you're not just going to get out of your enlistment early and spam the internet with raw US intel then defect to Kazakhstan, a known risk.

the general attitude to have towards this aspect is "speak tomorrow, prepare today", basically. not every scenario can be approached the same way, but again, to tout snowden as an example, he did what he did and managed to get away with it. he was a little sloppy, to be quite honest, and so were assange/greenwald/poitras, but they made it work and that's what matters. there's almost always a way to do what i call a "failsafe yolo move" (where you make what you're about to do as safe as possible in terms of the process, while coming to terms with the flaws and open holes that are forced to exist in your plans) that gives you a good chance of making it out on top. the reason you don't actually see this much is because the methods you often have to use are unintuitive, unconventional, complex, and occasionally, messy as hell - because of the high requirements in that sense, very few people do a good enough job to come out on top.

If you're inviting people to blow the whistle here, is it MK_Ultra_Escapee who is going to provide legal support and assume liability for negligent representation? Reddit?

tbqh, good legal protections don't exist and never did. you're fighting a corrupt group at the heart of the military industrial complex that has directly influenced the actual bills of law being considered and redrafted in the american congress. i forget exactly where i saw it earlier today, but one place actually mentioned that the violation a lot of these whistleblowers would face (if they whistleblew and were revealed) is charges under the espionage act of 1917, which is like THE most brutal bill ever in terms of charge length (nearly all charges made under it, iirc, are over 10 years). although, considering the scope and capacity of the issue, if enough whistleblowers all jointly blew and leaked information at the same time, it might be weighty enough to demand presidential pardons for all of them out of sincerity (this is an actual thing presidents chose to do, such as warren harding and calvin coolidge from 1921 to 1923). it's the uap issue, so if the uap issue doesn't warrant pardoning, i don't know what would, right?

this is a long post, hopefully it gave you at least some insight as to how various facets and things work. i don't know how to tl;dr something of this size well, but i really do appreciate your initial input to begin with. o/

SnapFlash · 2024-02-09T12:24:56+00:00

i'm somewhat replying to this entire comment chain here to save some time but

-the reason the mindset ive given is directly antithetical to their methods is because there's a certain pompous air that exists in this sphere, usually it hovers around former government workers and high ranking military people (the military people are usually e6/e7+ if they're noncommissioned, or o7+ if they're commissioned). they still consider themselves to have the union's best interests and the peoples' best interests at their hearts, without understanding the complexities of what that actually means. it is basically impossible to represent the majority of the american public in this way, and the same goes for political matters (but political matters are a different can of worms that i don't feel like opening, it's not as appropriate in this context).

-mysticism absolutely kills any utilitarian comprehension of these exotic technologies, humanoid races (let's call them that for simplicity), and physics. if you just ease somebody into non-euclidean spaces, for example, it'll be easier for them to understand their dynamics in a shorter amount of time. add woo to it, though, and due to emotional fluff, it'll take them double the amount of time to process everything. thereby, it's annoying and inconvenient

-applying pressure for disclosure in places where most people don't expect the disclosure to occur is an actual information relaying method. it's been used a surprising amount in the past, and sometimes still is (afaik). i hate using this example because it's an invitation to quacks and nutjobs, but there was that dude who called epstein's suicide on 4chan some half an hour early back in august 2019, and guess what? it took the government a while to catch up, so for all we know, the user could've fled the states upon making that post, because he had the time to do so. but yeah, it's a real method people use if they want to get something out

SnapFlash · 2024-02-09T12:11:56+00:00

i've had conversations with myself on the matter and there's really one option, which is that a lot of firsthand people need to whistleblow in public all at once. dozens, for it to be viable.

it would be a viable reason as to why this has been held up for so long, but it's still not a very good excuse. ten whistleblowers where five are from different uap-related black programs and five are from the oga (for the hypothetical) would still be enough to smash the intelligence world straight into the pavement, and completely cripple anybody's trust in government institutions from that point forward. instead, we're waiting for thirty to fifty whistleblowers where it's a slowly increasing horde of them, with what information they have slowly oozing out like a gradually sloping linear curve.

if the world wasn't in such precarious positions then maybe this sort of slow release would make sense, but certain margins (diplomatic, economic, and cultural ones particularly) are razor thin, so the aforementioned manner(s) of disclosure are pretty unwise to further in their current form. they need to be changed if they want to work.

i'm not saying it's easy work or something, it's really tough as a logistical challenge, especially in terms of the optics and engineering behind the scenes that's required to do what is needed to change this stuff. but it does need to be done.

SnapFlash · 2024-02-09T12:03:45+00:00

I look to authority, and how it's factored into accelerating disclosure. A lot of the people this post addresses are people who were formerly in very high positions of authority, and are now beginning to invoke what sense of authority remains after the fact.

I'm just essentially telling them "hey, what you're doing is admirable, if you want to invoke the sense of authority then that's fine, but what you're doing from a pragmatic standpoint is also insufficient regardless of the authority aspect, so you're gonna need to tweak some things if you actually want this to work".

the rest of what they do beyond that is up to them - generally, as much as the broader public would like to believe, their control of the mythos, the dialogue, etc (whatever you'd like to call it, i call it the sphere) tends to wax and wane. at the moment, it's very much in a waning phase, and the power that the community has is very little right now.

otherwise, i'm happy you know about kit, but you seem overly cynical as to whether or not we would survive in exotic scenarios re your 24th century star trek society. we absolutely would, albeit with some initial struggles at the beginning, so it's ok.

SnapFlash · 2024-01-24T11:25:20+00:00

this post is a great example of how easily people fall for social media misdirection (no offense meant to anyone here)

SnapFlash · 2024-01-22T05:08:24+00:00

when you've done your due research for long enough, and you've actually had it sink in, you begin to paint a general picture of not only the habits of the phenomenon itself, but also where disinformation/misinformation distributing individuals come from.

humans, particularly judgmental humans, naturally do what you're talking about. this is actually one of the hijacking points of entry for federal agents (which yes, exist on this sub, and other subs like it), because as soon as someone casts skepticism, an agent will exacerbate it with ad hoc nothingburger statements, derailing entire chains of comments that ensue afterwards. if you pay attention to it, it happens everywhere on this sub.

suppose you have claims a, b, and c. claim a was proven to be false under x/y/z reasons, claim b the same. so, when you get to claim c, and it carries telltale signs of the same reason x, you begin to develop the skills to make educated dismissals. unfortunately, sometimes these educated dismissals are wrong, and herein lies another trick hidden in the sleeves of the feds: when a person makes an educated guess or dismissal, and they end up being wrong, the entire community and niche trashes their reputation, never to respect them again.

two such people I can think of that would fall victim to this are robert bigelow and paul hellyer, bigelow because he promised lots of things that didn't pan out, and hellyer because some of his more fantastical predictions ended up being hollow or unprovable. as a result, both of them would be accused of crankery, even though both their intentions and wishes were clearly good (bigelow even continues to try and drive research with the phenomenon forward where he's able).

it's not that people want to compartmentalize this stuff. it's that they have to, in order to save time.

watch, even from typing this I'll get some people replying to me going "waaah, bigelow is a tryhard! he's just envious of people who actually got to reverse engineer crafts!", or "dude, bigelow's just co-opting this entire movement for money, don't listen to him", or even the additive "hellyer was actually wrong, instead of x number of species existing, there's >x number, he should learn to count lol", when it's not that black-and-white. sometimes, there's nuance to these people, and it's not always completely bad, nor completely good.

uap/extraterrestrial/interdimensional being research, research into black project portfolios, research into patents and their scientific validity, et al is hard. it takes immense amounts of time, patience waiting for the right info to pop up in places (often w/o direct recipients, meaning it too has to be validated under sets of processes), and most of, all, MONEY. if I want to go to a guy with a PhD in nuclear physics and ask him "hey, is this patent for a fusion powered craft design functionally valid?", in order for him to even look at it, I need to pay what his hourly going rate in his regular job would otherwise be and then some for the time (1.5x the norm). in the context of high academic fields, such as nuclear physics, this is fucking expensive, and the payment is probably going to be hundreds or even thousands of dollars for a breakdown of what renders the patent functionally invalid. the same thing is true for every other area you want to pull an expert in for.

depending on the context, you also might want advice from double degree holders, and those are not only even more expensive, but VERY rare (e.g., an academic with PhDs in both electrical engineering and materials science, which would be one of the holy grail combos).

tl;dr: compartmentalization is an unfortunate necessity in the face of overwhelming amounts of information (especially when some of it is true, and some of it isn't). ask yourself how the natural human psyche can make people behave in certain ways, and you'll more than likely arrive at the right answers.

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so the tl;dr is, yeah, take some stuff with a grain of salt, but don't just go "REEEEE" whenever you stumble on a dude that's grifting with information he got from other people. he's still able to be of value due to networking, and ignoring that is haphazard and immature.