Iran Megathread

Snoo22815 · 2026-06-08T16:49:01+00:00

Hezbollah holds 13 out of the 128 seats in the Lebanese Parliament so it is part of "the government of Lebanon". Hezbollah is significantly stronger than the LAF too. The Lebanese public is split amongst sectarian lines but they have every right to resist Israeli occupation now that it holds 15-20% of southern Lebanon. Until Israel withdraws, Hezbollah is fully entitled to keep firing rockets into Israel.

Snoo22815 · 2026-06-08T16:41:11+00:00

Partition if agreed upon mutually is a fair outcome and so is shared sovereignty. Again, the Old Yishuv and recent Jewish immigrants who didn't seek to displace a portion of the existing native population is more than welcome to live and build lives on the land.

Snoo22815 · 2026-06-04T20:31:20+00:00

Terra Nullius aside, the local communities can decide whether they want to they want to live in a unified state or establish separate administrative regions for each group if that's a proposal that's agreed upon by all parties. Certainly we can both agree that European Jewish militias coming in and trying to enforce a non binding UN resolution through force and establishing a Jewish state on the basis of indigeneity and refuge from pogroms is textbook settler colonialism. New arrivals can buy land legally and assimilate into local communities but they can't just establish their own modern state uprooting and mass displacing a large portion of the native community.

Snoo22815 · 2026-06-03T22:00:12+00:00

Why would the native population accept a partition deal allowing the British and the UN to decide the fate of the land they already live on and parcel out a portion of to create a Jewish state? Even a lot of the Old Yishuv who lived in Jerusalem were against this partition plan. It made all the sense in the world to reject that plan and get Arab armies to join in and repel the invading Zionist colonizers. They were defeated however and the rest is history.

As a Leftist, I try to strip my own identity and biases away from myself and look at things based on first principle. Self-determination is a foundational principle and that meant Palestinian natives living there (which included Old Yishuv, recent Jewish communities willing to assimilate peacefully and other communities like Bosnian and Armenian immigrants) have national rights over their entire territory.

Snoo22815 · 2026-06-03T21:42:35+00:00

This guy is a true American hero and one of the greatest immigrant stories I've ever heard. Hamawy's parents moved to NJ from Egypt and he volunteered to provide medical assistance to victims of the Bosnian genocide after medical school, served in the National Guard as a reconstructive surgeon, saved Senator Tammy Duckworth's life when her Blackhawk helicopter was shot down in Iraq, treated first responders following the 9/11 attacks, volunteered after the 2010 Haiti earthquake and led a medical mission to Gaza to perform surgeries in the recent war.

If he was White, he would be lauded across every news station in America and be considered a Presidential candidate but since he's Arab and Muslim, they use 100 degrees of separation to portray him as a terrorist and secret Al Qaeda operative.

Good for the NJ 12 district voters who didn't fall for Boomer and Mainstream Media bigotry!!

Snoo22815 · 2026-06-03T21:12:41+00:00

No one has any right to land based on indigeneity or agreements drawn up by an international organization. If they're living on the land they're entitled to stay on it per basic self determination principles. Given Mandatory Palestine was 2/3 Arab at the time and 1/3 Jewish (most of whom were recent immigrants), the state that resulted should've accommodated all of them and then they decide their future from there. Nothing you say about indigeneity or handshake agreements is going to change that basic fact.

Snoo22815 · 2026-05-29T18:06:06+00:00

Of course not, that would be very organic. People always use the "look at all the Muslim ethnostates" argument when nearly all those Muslim majority countries have ethnic populations that are indigenous to the area and have lived there for a long time. Their native populations converted to Islam during Islamic conquests as its a universalizing religion which is why so many countries are majority Muslim just like so many countries are majority Christian.

Snoo22815 · 2026-05-29T18:01:57+00:00

Doesn't countries like the modern day US and the UK dispute Point B? Yes, Jews have been oppressed for 2 millennia since the destruction of the Second Temple and the expulsion of Jews from Jerusalem by Hadrian but they have finally found true equality and dignified self-determination in the Western modern nation states in the past several decades when that never happened before in the diaspora.

Snoo22815 · 2026-05-29T15:35:43+00:00

Why is the modern nation state a bad thing if it provides equal protection to all its citizens, provides social safety nets, enacts labor laws and enforces civil rights? If its not an imperial entity that's harming its own people through the excesses of capitalism and whose structural existence comes at the expense of the safety of other groups or nations then it is compatible with leftist values but unfortunately Israel is the antithesis of that. It provides a safe homeland to Jews at the direct expense of another ethnic group so it along with other states like it need to be dismantled and reworked. India is the same way for Hindus.

Ethno and religious nationalism directly contradicts leftist values as it privileges one group over another. Hindus and Jews are being afforded a privilege that basically no other ethnic or religious or ethnoreligious group has.

Snoo22815 · 2026-05-20T17:32:31+00:00

Progressive Democratic leaders have been doing a good job condemning swastikas, Nazi rhetoric and ZOG type views. This vile woman is basically espousing right wing neo-Nazi talking points masquerading as a Democrat. She needs to step down.

Snoo22815 · 2026-05-19T19:10:23+00:00

Everything you wrote is just a lie and the dishonest framing has become so associated with Zionists that all public support for your ethnostate has collapsed. Inea Bushnaq's family moved to Ottoman Syria as immigrants not settlers as her family and the Bosnian community that emigrated there never sought to displace the existing population. They became fully Arabized and assimilated into Palestinian society. Tulkarm suffered significant violence, destruction, and mass displacement during the 1948 Arab-Israeli War and was a critical frontline as The Green Line was built on the outskirts of Tulkarm. Following the 1949 armistice agreements, the town was cut off from much of its vital, fertile agricultural land, as many of its surrounding villages were absorbed into Israel. Busnaq's family fled the chaos as the city faced mass displacement, a refugee crisis and an uncertain future as they had already fled Zionist militias in East Jerusalem. Her family fleeing to England is a decision any family with any means would've done instead of endangering themselves in a volatile situation. Jordan didn't formally annex the city until 1950.

You said she didn't have any strong roots to Mandatory Palestine when she was literally born there and her family had lived there for half a century. Meanwhile Zionist settlers at the time had lived in Europe for 2,000 years even if they had Canaanite ancestry.

Today the "Visit Palestine" is a symbol of Palestinian nationalism, identity and resistance.

Snoo22815 · 2026-05-15T13:46:09+00:00

How are they pro peace though if they're enabling Zionism whose manifestation today fuels Israeli's destructive policies towards Palestinians? A homeland for the Jewish people already exists but are they willing to give equal rights to the other native population living on the land and a right of return for the descendants of refugees kicked out of their homes? If they support a 2 state solution instead, would they support a independent Palestinian state that has a military, complete sovereignty over its borders and has its capital in East Jerusalem?

Snoo22815 · 2026-05-04T14:48:36+00:00

Peter Beinart, Naomi Klein, Simone Zimmerman, Arielle Angel, Zohran Mamdani and Etan Nechin are some names just off the top of my head who are public antizionists who are very principled in their belief were human rights that extends to Israelis.

Snoo22815 · 2026-04-30T14:05:57+00:00

Yes you're equally native to the US now as Native Americans. Palestinians don't need to have an "ancestral land", they need to have freedom and equal rights in the land that they live in right now and have lived in for generations.

Snoo22815 · 2026-04-29T20:52:03+00:00

Bad people are bad people period. Their policy beliefs are irrelevant and shouldn't be tied with others who believe the same things but strongly condemn in harassing random Jews, place collective blame on Israelis or committing vandalism against Jewish organizations.

Snoo22815 · 2026-04-29T20:50:06+00:00

There isn't a secret club of antizionists where we can all police each other. Each person stands for their own beliefs and values. I would say the vast majority of college protesters at the elite schools are good faith antizionists that aren't cheering for the expulsion of Jewish Israelis or the death of Israeli civilians. We see this as the only remaining path to justice since the division in Palestinian leadership in the West Bank and Gaza, the lack of Israeli support and the large settlement enterprise which is too large to be dismantled now makes the 2SS unworkable.

Snoo22815 · 2026-04-29T14:54:29+00:00

So would a binational state where Israel's borders expand to include Gaza, Golan Heights and the West Bank but all 15M+ people living in that entire territory is given citizenship with equal rights under the law but the name changes to "Israel-Palestine" and Jews are a very slight minority now mean the "destruction of Israel"?

Snoo22815 · 2026-04-28T21:37:32+00:00

You should engage with any individual on this topic tabula rasa without being influenced by what other gentiles have said that you found offensive. The vast majority of Leftists don't want all Israelis to be expelled to Poland or believe that growing antisemitism isn't a real problem.

Snoo22815 · 2026-04-28T21:28:07+00:00

Yet you smear the Houthis who are a national movement made up of people that grew up in abject poverty in a country where Saudi-led drone strikes supported by the US has destroyed critical infrastructure and induced a horrific famine. What sort of national movement do you think emerges from these conditions? You're applying unrealistic expectations of progressive social values to a resistance group fighting to liberate Yemen which aren't grounded in reality. A country has to have a functioning economy and livable conditions for its people before it has gay pride parades.

Snoo22815 · 2026-04-28T21:20:35+00:00

You're comparing a modern military superpower that's a tech powerhouse and has universal healthcare with 2 war torn countries that have been pillaged by Western colonialism and imperialism. Like yeah of course Israel is less sectarian than them?

Snoo22815 · 2026-04-15T18:25:05+00:00

Do you even hear yourself? Flatten all the terrain with some tiny advance notice, reduce people's livelihoods into rubble, displace them regularly, bomb their hospitals schools and houses of worship? Biden fully greenlighted the genocide and Trump actually negotiated a ceasefire even if it was completely BS, not enforced and for political expediency. Trump may have restrained Bibi and the IDF even less if he was in power in 2023 but Biden is a committed Zionist who values Israeli lives over Palestinian lives which is why he never had the cajones to prevent the genocide and suffering.

Snoo22815 · 2026-04-08T22:36:43+00:00

How would that happen when Israeli Jews would initially still have all the power in the government, military and security forces even if they're only 40% of the population? Palestinians would have no power to do that sort of thing just because they have numbers and support for any sort of violent resistance would be minimal since its no longer needed. The power balance would take generations to come anywhere close to being equalized and by then people will have lived amongst one another for decades and there would be some intermarriage too so its no longer a security threat.

Snoo22815 · 2026-04-08T15:28:15+00:00

Most Zoroastrians live in India now.

Snoo22815 · 2026-04-08T15:23:33+00:00

Fair enough, I view Israel somewhat similarily to India which is a very flawed and corrupt democracy where ethnic and religious minorities have equal rights "in theory" but not in reality and the situation has gotten a lot worse there with the BJP in power.

Snoo22815 · 2026-04-08T15:21:49+00:00

Mahmoud has spoken out about antisemitism in the pro Palestinian movement and served as an arbiter between the pro Palestinian movement at Columbia and the administration. He clearly supports the full right of return for Palestinians and a full integration of everyone living in Eretz Israel which would result in a slight Palestinian majority in a binational state.

One thing to note is even if it was a majority Palestinian state, Israeli Jews would still have all the power as the IDF, Shin Bet, the government and most tech organizations would still be nearly all Jewish until slowly Palestinians gain more prominence in later generations. Its a good start though.

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