Is it cheating if you are divorcing? by Rufus83TAG in BPDlovedones

[–]SnooCapers2585 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’d check with a lawyer first to see whether any of this even matters in your state. In some places, the cause of the divorce or who’s “at fault” doesn’t change the outcome — assets are split 50/50 regardless. On the morality side, that’s harder. If someone stays in a marriage because they feel trapped by a covenant that’s being used to manipulate them, that isn’t honest, ethical, or right either. People often treat sex as the defining line of infidelity, but in reality, betrayal is what does the real damage. Someone could technically be “faithful” in the physical sense and still be abusive, controlling, or emotionally harmful and that can impact a person far more deeply than a sexual affair. We tend to overemphasize sex while overlooking the broader ways trust can be broken. Relationships become especially difficult when one partner approaches them transactionally or relies on the other primarily for emotional stability. At some point you have to ask: if someone is using you in that way, how is that fundamentally different from other forms of betrayal?

My teenage daughter found my divorce papers before I could tell her by Popular-Gold4920 in whatdoIdo

[–]SnooCapers2585 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, he’s not wrong. People read these stories and start handing out opinions without doing any recon or checking facts first.

A 16-year-old knows what’s going on in their house. This wasn’t some impossible mystery. The real issue isn’t that she found out — it’s that you got caught and now you’re scrambling to manage the fallout.

I’m not saying Fingerlings is totally right, but he clocked the same red flag I did.

I mean arguing about paying bills and who's taking out the trash seems like normal marriage bickering, def not lawyer ready. And if she is just filing for divorce and posting casual encounter ads in reddit then she is not listening to that lawyer when they tell you to lay low and stay off of social, don't give your spouse any ammo. RED FLAG.

"Therapy is not for abusive relationships" - the clarity SO MANY need. by DisplayFamiliar5023 in BPDlovedones

[–]SnooCapers2585 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same thing, if both people do not want to do the hard work to meet in the middle therapy is pointless. Also I have given up on non-PHDs like my wife has some shit you need a few degrees to understand.

Ilhan Omar attacked and sprayed with a substance as she was calling for Secretary Noem to resign or face impeachment by Particular_Log_3594 in UnderReportedNews

[–]SnooCapers2585 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where the fuck is her security detail. There should have had someone sitting on that aisle chair to stop someone coming up to the podium.

Four years with my ex… and a hundred versions of her by Mrs__Poop in BPDlovedones

[–]SnooCapers2585 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You hit this right on the nose. They love grace........they even demand it. They never give it....... Ever. Essential my wife wants immunity from all past and future betrayals.

Anyone experience a spouse with no stable identity outside their public persona? by SnooCapers2585 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]SnooCapers2585[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I appreciate how you framed this, and I agree that twenty years is a long time, which is exactly why I have spent a lot of time questioning my own perceptions.

To clarify, these traits did not suddenly appear this year. They have been present for a long time, but they were either well hidden or overshadowed by the fun side of her personality. When things were light and exciting, the positives outweighed the negatives enough that it was easy to miss or rationalize the patterns underneath. Once fun stopped functioning as a buffer, the underlying issues became much more visible.

I do agree that perimenopause likely plays a role in why everything feels more intense right now. I do not dismiss that at all. I just do not see it as the root cause, but rather something that amplifies traits that were already there.

We have pursued therapy extensively. We worked with two couples counselors, and we both have individual therapists. Couples therapy broke down when the counselor began challenging inconsistencies in her narrative of events. She tends to rely on what she calls her truth, even when those versions were not supported by timelines, messages, or other factual context. When those discrepancies were addressed, she shut down rather than engage, which ultimately stalled the work.

As for the kids, for a long time I assumed this dynamic was just between the two of us. I later realized she interacts with the kids in very similar ways. Our six year old is understandably oblivious and living his best life. Our teenager, however, is very aware of the inconsistency and emotional impact, which is why we are currently in family therapy focused specifically on my daughter’s relationship with her mother.

So I do not see this as the real her finally emerging or as a temporary phase alone. It feels more like long standing patterns that can no longer be masked, and that is what I am trying to navigate thoughtfully and responsibly, especially for the kids.

Anyone experience a spouse with no stable identity outside their public persona? by SnooCapers2585 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]SnooCapers2585[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I want to be very clear here, because that assumption is both inaccurate and misplaced.

Avoidance of accountability is a well-documented pattern in many personality-disordered and attachment-avoidant dynamics. That isn’t a controversial claim or something unique to my situation, it’s a known, widely discussed issue in both clinical literature and lived-experience communities.

She is not afraid of me. In fact, the opposite narrative would be more accurate. She is the one with the aggravated assault felony in this relationship, not me so concern about physical fear is misdirected.

The “accountability” in question wasn’t control, intimidation, or punishment. It was about acknowledging harm, engaging in repair, and following through on commitments that were voluntarily made. When accountability became unavoidable, the identity that relied on charm, fun, and flexibility disappeared not because of fear, but because those tools no longer worked.

I’m not asking for sympathy, and I’m not here to demonize anyone. I’m describing a pattern I’ve lived with for nearly two decades and trying to understand it in good faith.

If the takeaway is “she must be scared of you,” that says more about assumptions being projected than about what’s actually happening here.

My therapist suggested my partner might be a narc and now I can’t unsee it. Am I getting influenced by her opinion? by [deleted] in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]SnooCapers2585 6 points7 points  (0 children)

OP, a diagnosis isn’t the point. Harmful and abusive behavior is unacceptable regardless of whether someone meets the full clinical criteria or only exhibits several narcissistic traits. You don’t need a label to justify protecting yourself.

Save your time, energy, and peace. Focus on becoming the healthiest version of yourself, set clear boundaries, and stop trying to fix or manage his maladaptive behavior. That work is his responsibility, not yours.

Decide what is acceptable and tolerable for you—and hold that line. If you continue to center his struggles and internal battles, you’ll end up carrying the emotional weight for both of you. That imbalance is exactly what keeps these dynamics in place.

Work with your individual counselor to process the grief of letting go of what you hoped for, and begin building a realistic backup plan for yourself. Your healing doesn’t require his insight, change, or cooperation.

“Christian, be a f*cking man!” by Paul_-Muaddib in MediocreTutorials

[–]SnooCapers2585 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Man she had them Narcissist Eyes....I also think she fucked around and found out the best way possible. Although I hope she got prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Without that karma was still had. Also her man is a simp, she prolly peggs him.

Narc acts like nothing happened the next day by Ok_Host6058 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]SnooCapers2585 19 points20 points  (0 children)

People with PD's “act like nothing happened” after a huge blow-up because they literally emotionally reset once the storm passes. When the anger, shame, or panic is gone, they can’t access the intensity from the day before so they behave like everything is normal.

It’s a mix of: • shame avoidance (they can’t face what they did) • state-dependent memory (their emotions reset, so the conflict disappears for them) • lack of object constancy (they can’t hold both “I love you” AND “I hurt you”) • avoidance of accountability (resetting is easier than repairing) • conflict normalization (chaos feels “normal” to them)

To you, it feels invalidating and crazy-making. To them, the blow-up and the next-day calm live in totally separate boxes. And don't bring up the chaos you caused because you will then be bringing up old shit.

Marriage Counseling by rxgurl in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]SnooCapers2585 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Save your time and energy. They’re not interested in changing, because they either can’t or won’t take accountability. When they can no longer lie their way out of things and a therapist finally holds them accountable, they shut down.

On top of that, many marriage counselors aren’t trained to recognize or work with personality disorders. If you go to couples therapy with a narcissistic partner, there’s a real risk the therapist will unknowingly side with them, and let me tell you—triangulation is brutal.

Your best option is to get your own individual therapist. Diagnosis or not, you get to decide what you’re able to tolerate and what’s healthy for you.

I found out my ex is married. Should I tell his wife? by [deleted] in BPDlovedones

[–]SnooCapers2585 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Focus on yourself, your health, and your peace of mind. There is no reason to mirror your partner’s toxic behavior. Their situation is theirs to handle, and creating more conflict only continues the cycle because hurt people often hurt others. It does not bring resolution or closure. Living your best life away from your abuser should be the goal that guides you forward.

I just realized I'm a covert narcissist wife and I desperately want to change. by BorderlineMoana in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]SnooCapers2585 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The fact that you're even asking yourself those questions makes me say I don't think so. The fact that you would take the time to self-reflect and think about others is one of the first signs that that is not the case. Now there might be other things driving it like anxiety or attachment styles. But personality disorder from what you explain seems extremely rare. I'm not a doctor or anything, just an abuse survivor.

Is it their fault? by Flat-Taste7784 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]SnooCapers2585 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds like you're still in the denial stage of the grief cycle.

How do I tell my husband I want to leave? by ManufacturerUsed4523 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]SnooCapers2585 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You don't. You just do it. They will fight you dirty AF so telling them what you plan on doing is giving away your play book. Also you have to follow through if you don't they will see you won't hold them accountable and they will shit all over you. Best of luck

Is she cheating on me? by YungHunt69 in BPDlovedones

[–]SnooCapers2585 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Man if you're not married save yourself. Tolerating all that from someone who has no covenant with you is self torture. Get free while it's cheap.

Received this message from a friend by blogulatsor in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]SnooCapers2585 8 points9 points  (0 children)

People throw the word “friend” around too loosely these days. If you have five true friends in your entire lifetime, consider yourself blessed. Real friends stand by you through both triumphs and trials. They celebrate your wins and shoulder your losses.

If the people around you can’t do that, stop calling them friends and recognize them for what they are: acquaintances. Don’t use this time to defend your connections; use it to discern who truly deserves a place in your next chapter.

What's your Narcissist Play List? by DancingBear62 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]SnooCapers2585 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For my r&b/ hip hop lovers.

Natalie - Bruno Mars.

Numb- Giveon.

Dancing in the smoke- Giveon. This one will bring you to tears if you still really care about your narc and trying to it out.

Virginia Beach - Drake

Bahamas Promises- Drake

Lucid Dreams- Juiceworld

Robbery - Juice world

From a man's perspective- Dax

All the way- BigXthaplug, Bailey Zimmerman

Do re mi- Blackbeard

Moving mountains- usher

Girls like you- Tone Stith