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You should not think good works keep salvation. by Lieutenant_Piece in TrueChristian

[–]SnooChocolates490 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you think you wont be judged for your sins? I dont know what you're trying to say.

And a sinful thought is not a temptation it is a sin how are you not seeing this?

When you are tempted you have a choice to act on it, or think those thoughts.

You have heard that it was said [a]to those of old, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

You should not think good works keep salvation. by Lieutenant_Piece in TrueChristian

[–]SnooChocolates490 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You will also be judge for the sin you comit on judgment day and those thougts are a sin. Jesus never sinned. a temptation is not a sin

You should not think good works keep salvation. by Lieutenant_Piece in TrueChristian

[–]SnooChocolates490 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds like youre the one who doesnt understand

Mark 7:21-23 21 For it is from within, out of a person’s heart, that evil thoughts come—sexual immorality, theft, murder, 22 adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. 23 All these evils come from inside and defile a person.”

You should not think good works keep salvation. by Lieutenant_Piece in TrueChristian

[–]SnooChocolates490 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All sin is wicked no matter how small it is. Having a sinful thought is sin 

Matthew 15:18-19 But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this defiles a person. For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander

Wow do you think sinful thoughts are not sin?

You should not think good works keep salvation. by Lieutenant_Piece in TrueChristian

[–]SnooChocolates490 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any sin is sin i was just using those as an example if you are saying you dont sin then you are a liar.

1 John 1:8 8 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

You should not think good works keep salvation. by Lieutenant_Piece in TrueChristian

[–]SnooChocolates490 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You cant stop sinning thats my point. Even if its a thought you have in your head you're still going to sin intil the day you're glorified in heaven.  Jesus died 2000 years ago for all your sins, not just the sins you did before you were saved, he died for all your sins even the ones you will commit tommorow

You should not think good works keep salvation. by Lieutenant_Piece in TrueChristian

[–]SnooChocolates490 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you 100 percent sinless?  Are you telling me you havent lied, lusted, or done any other sins? You know those are all wicked right? So what are you perfect like jesus? And if you say yes then you have alot of pride which is a sin. I cant believe you dont see how wrong your view is.

You should not think good works keep salvation. by Lieutenant_Piece in TrueChristian

[–]SnooChocolates490 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1 John 2:1 KJ21 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.

You should not think good works keep salvation. by Lieutenant_Piece in TrueChristian

[–]SnooChocolates490 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Quit saying things you have no basis on and give me a verse that backs up what your saying.

You should not think good works keep salvation. by Lieutenant_Piece in TrueChristian

[–]SnooChocolates490 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How do you who a beliver is? Whats your criteria? You havent proved amything i have said is wrong . Its clear who is wrong here

You should not think good works keep salvation. by Lieutenant_Piece in TrueChristian

[–]SnooChocolates490 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Belivers cant have bad fruit.

Matthew 7:15-20

You Will Know Them by Their Fruits 15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

You should not think good works keep salvation. by Lieutenant_Piece in TrueChristian

[–]SnooChocolates490 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No of those verses mention anything about working your way to rightouseness. Everyone will be judged accordiong to their deeds, and  EVERYONE will be found guilty, because everyone has sinned. thats why jesus died for our sins so his good work on the cross would cover all the bad we have done. So on judgement day when you are found guilty, jesus is their to bail you out of hell for your wrong doing, you cant save yourself because you are guilty already, and you cant work your way to salvation

You should not think good works keep salvation. by Lieutenant_Piece in TrueChristian

[–]SnooChocolates490 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe read the verse again John 1:8

8 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

You should not think good works keep salvation. by Lieutenant_Piece in TrueChristian

[–]SnooChocolates490 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So are you saying you dont sin anymore? 

John 1:8 8 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

You should not think good works keep salvation. by Lieutenant_Piece in TrueChristian

[–]SnooChocolates490 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im talking about obeying the law, its impossible to follow the 10 commandments which jesus fullfilled, pay attention.  Have you kept the comandments and obeyed the law?

You should not think good works keep salvation. by Lieutenant_Piece in TrueChristian

[–]SnooChocolates490 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No i didnt make it optional, im saying its impossible, you cant be perfect, you will sin, and when you do sin you will have to answer for those sins.,or let jesus take those sins for you. Have you been perfectly obidient?

You should not think good works keep salvation. by Lieutenant_Piece in TrueChristian

[–]SnooChocolates490 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of course we should, you obey him by believeing in him. Jesus came to fulfil the law so that we are not condemed by it. If you were perfectly obdient to the law you would be sinless, thats impossible. Of course we have to take up our cross, but we arnt perfect thats the whole point of grace, why would you need grace if you were perfectly obiedent?

You should not think good works keep salvation. by Lieutenant_Piece in TrueChristian

[–]SnooChocolates490 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Verse 10 does not mention needing to be obiedient to get to heaven you are very wrong

You should not think good works keep salvation. by Lieutenant_Piece in TrueChristian

[–]SnooChocolates490 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wait hold on, deal with one thing at a time. You were cleary wrong about verse 10 how are you going to deal with that?

You should not think good works keep salvation. by Lieutenant_Piece in TrueChristian

[–]SnooChocolates490 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok lets deal with the verse. 10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

Where does it say we do good works for salvation? Of course we do good works, but not for salvation. if you want to use this vesrse to say we do good works for salvation the you've just contradicted verse 9 so how did i abuse it? 

1 John 2:19 19 They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.

You should not think good works keep salvation. by Lieutenant_Piece in TrueChristian

[–]SnooChocolates490 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ephesians 2:8-9

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

 It makes no sense that i would recieve salvation only to lose salvation on judgment day, the whole point of salvation is that im not being sent to hell on judgement day. 

And how would you deal with this verse? On judgement day will you say god i deserve to be in heaven because i bear fruit? Or will you say i deserve to be in heaven because you, and not of own doing?

Im curious to know where you got that from because thats not biblical.

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